Fuel supply/ shortages

fatty · Member

Fuel supply/ shortages

Corndoggy · Senior Member

I have heard that way out in the never never the price of petrol was being sold at near $4 litre. I can't recall where this was, I can't say it's true, I also can't say it's false. I'm wondering if it is they are expecting not to be getting stock for a very long time or very patchy deliveries at best so trying to make as much from it to pay the bills they have.

Ineedabiggerboat · Senior Member

Bigger issue is that Australia only holds 30 days of fuel. In port Macquarie last week, the Independent had 95 at 172.2 CPL. Woolworths and other majors were 220/232 CPL. BURGLARS!

fatty · Member

Ineedabiggerboat wrote:
Bigger issue is that Australia only holds 30 days of fuel. In port Macquarie last week, the Independent had 95 at 172.2 CPL. Woolworths and other majors were 220/232 CPL. BURGLARS!

Agree, reserve supply will become an issue very quickly. would be a brave man to head too far from home in the near future me thinks .

fatty · Member

If anyone doubts what's happening regards panic buying of fuel just check super cheap, autobarn etc and try to buy a jerry can

Whenarewethere · Guru

We should have 90 days but Australia is well below the recommended level. The last time this happened the average days on hand included fuel in tanks on commercial premises, farms, trucks, boats, cars and motorcycles. Possibly also included leaf blowers.

Corndoggy · Senior Member

See some guy rocked up at a petrol station with one of those 1 cubic metre plastic tanks on the back of a ute and started filling up. Don't know how much he got but think the cops want to talk to him about it. Some people are just unbelievable.

fatty · Member

Fuel rationing needs to start now not when its too late. although its probably already to late

-- Edited by fatty on Sunday 8th of March 2026 02:01:23 PM

Ineedabiggerboat · Senior Member

Fuel is the new toilet paper

Whenarewethere · Guru

Worse. One can clean one's backside other ways. Advice, one product never used was Holly leaves!

It takes roughly 10 calories of energy to get 1 calorie of food on the table. So we better work on our gardening skills like our grandparents.

DMaxer · Guru

What a load of hysterical tripe. Australia's oil imports do not come from Iran but through the Singapore, Japanese, South Korean and US markets. Ninety per cent of Iran's oil is sold to China with the remaining ten per exported to Syria, UAE or used domestically. What may drive up the price is the fact that the oil producing countries will need to increase production to cover the missing twenty per cent that Iran contributes to the global supply.

We have thirty four days supply stockpiled. Didn't that dope Angus Taylor tell us we had purchased 100 days and it was stockpiled in the USA?

Oil prices rise and fall contingent on the market. When the supply price increases the oil companies increase the price of the oil they currently hold as they will be paying more for their next supply. Likewise, if there is a glut, the oil companies reduce and can even lose on the deal because they are stockpiled with oil that initially cost more when the rate was higher. There are no "burglars". No one is breaking into anyone's home or business. The only thing missing is grey matter between a few people's ears.

The only issues that will arise in Australia is if the cerebrally challenged listen to the cerebrally challenged.

Ineedabiggerboat · Senior Member

Thank god no one is listening to you

fatty · Member

DMaxer wrote:
What a load of hysterical tripe. Australia's oil imports do not come from Iran but through the Singapore, Japanese, South Korean and US markets. Ninety per cent of Iran's oil is sold to China with the remaining ten per exported to Syria, UAE or used domestically. What may drive up the price is the fact that the oil producing countries will need to increase production to cover the missing twenty per cent that Iran contributes to the global supply.
We have thirty four days supply stockpiled. Didn't that dope Angus Taylor tell us we had purchased 100 days and it was stockpiled in the USA?
Oil prices rise and fall contingent on the market. When the supply price increases the oil companies increase the price of the oil they currently hold as they will be paying more for their next supply. Likewise, if there is a glut, the oil companies reduce and can even lose on the deal because they are stockpiled with oil that initially cost more when the rate was higher. There are no "burglars". No one is breaking into anyone's home or business. The only thing missing is grey matter between a few people's ears.
The only issues that will arise in Australia is if the cerebrally challenged listen to the cerebrally challenged.

What a rude ignorant person you are, in your expert capacity as resident know it all please explain this

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/australias-food-supply-at-risk-as-major-wholesalers-cut-diesel-to-farmers/news-story/dd45eb70fa75257a7401db02bd21b29b

buy the way nobody mentioned Iran

-- Edited by fatty on Sunday 8th of March 2026 04:22:39 PM

Ineedabiggerboat · Senior Member

Absolutely no need to insult people because they have a different opinion to you. No wonder there are so few posters here. Stick your head up and get shot by you.

Are We Lost · Guru

DMaxer wrote:
We have thirty four days supply stockpiled. Didn't that dope Angus Taylor tell us we had purchased 100 days and it was stockpiled in the USA?

You have a very simplistic view of the situation.

Yes from my layman's perspective, the Angus Taylor decision does sound like a poor one. However, only if those words were taken in isolation without understanding the situation.

First Australia did not buy 100 days worth of fuel. We leased the storage space to store it because we had no room. Our storage facilities were all full because of radically reduced usage in Covid period. At the time oil prices had bottomed and we bought a couple of days supply at a bargain price of $94M (less than half today's cost) to store there. We progressively added more while prices were cheap.

At the same time, the process for a mandatory increase in our local storage was initiated, funded in the 2020-21 budget. Ten specific sites were chosen a few months later. The much more important part was the Minimum Stockholding Obligation (MSO). This was the stick that forced the oil companies to increase local storage rather than the cheaper "just in time" method. The following year he got the mandate increased from 20 days to 32 days, which is where it sits now.

The MSO also gave power to the Emergy Minister to increase the level, mandating oil companies to store more fuel locally. So far there has been resistance to pressure to do so. Now with the latest Middle East concerns those voices are becoming louder.

That leads nicely back to the initial comment. Despite all the clamours of stupid decision etc, the usage of the offshore storage has continued to grow, while our local storage has plenty of spare capacity. About 2/3 full. So another 10 days' supply would be pretty easy and there is more storage space coming. Just need to the energy minister to take action.

By the way, the fuel storage mandate is based on current usage patterns. 32 days was chosen based on the time taken to get it here from wherever ... in this case US storage. If consumers panic and fill drums etc, that supply will be exhausted much sooner.

So DMaxer, considering you thought the USA storage was a silly idea, would you side with those who want the Energy Minister to increase the level of local storage? Which is the silly approach?

-- Edited by Are We Lost on Sunday 8th of March 2026 07:53:34 PM

Southern Cruizer · Guru

Last friday in Wagga, a fella with a ute and trailer filling up 4 x 200 ltr drums with diesel.
Ordinary citizens just wanting to top up and he was holding up a queue a mile long.
Was getting abused as we were leaving by a few people

Dick0 · Guru

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Plain Truth · Guru

DMaxer wrote:
What a load of hysterical tripe. Australia's oil imports do not come from Iran but through the Singapore, Japanese, South Korean and US markets. Ninety per cent of Iran's oil is sold to China with the remaining ten per exported to Syria, UAE or used domestically. What may drive up the price is the fact that the oil producing countries will need to increase production to cover the missing twenty per cent that Iran contributes to the global supply.
We have thirty four days supply stockpiled. Didn't that dope Angus Taylor tell us we had purchased 100 days and it was stockpiled in the USA?
Oil prices rise and fall contingent on the market. When the supply price increases the oil companies increase the price of the oil they currently hold as they will be paying more for their next supply. Likewise, if there is a glut, the oil companies reduce and can even lose on the deal because they are stockpiled with oil that initially cost more when the rate was higher. There are no "burglars". No one is breaking into anyone's home or business. The only thing missing is grey matter between a few people's ears.
The only issues that will arise in Australia is if the cerebrally challenged listen to the cerebrally challenged.

Dougwe · Chief one feather

Go check ya number plate numbers y'all. Odds and Evens are on the horizon.

Remember those days from way back when?

-- Edited by Dougwe on Monday 9th of March 2026 06:24:43 AM

rmoor · Guru

Good call, I do remember the odds and evens number plate rationing!

From my observation of reporting in the media, it is not so much the production of fuel.
It is more that a reported 1,000 ships or more were stranded and could not pass through the Strait of Hormuz?

There were threats of setting fire to any ship that passed through and it was more the cut-off of supply that is the issue.
When one has a look on the maps, it is as Plain Truth says, only 21 miles across the Strait.

If there is any talk of "troops on the ground", then that is a good place to start.
Control of the Northern bank of that Strait would be strategically sound and then the stalled ships could start moving to their varied destinations and supply is somewhat restored.

"Please don't turn this political !

Just wondering how fellow travellers plan to manage fuel supply issues, and cost for that matter as we have already seen jumps of 30 to 40 cents per litre. We are in the Fraser coast area and have already see several local servo's run out of fuel with people panic buying. There are also the issues of the food supply chain."

I will apologise on behalf of others Fatty, some posters just simply cannot ignore the opportunity to berate others unnecessarily, or make your sensible post and comment into a political attack.
Particularly after you requested it not be turned political.

Your post is sound and topical, with something that seriously affects all of us and it would be an absolute shame if this important thread was shut down.

rmoor · Guru

One of the major concerns with these fuel shortages is if our farmers run out of fuel.

I was talking to a golfing cow ****y friend this morning.
They are very concerned about not being able to access diesel to continue farming and also get their produce to market.

It will be catastrophic if our farmers cannot get beef, goods etc to market.
The supermarket prices will skyrocket and we will be back to Covid like supply chain issues again possibly?

rmoor · Guru

Geez.

Did A.I. edit my "cow %$^&y" description?
Talk about Freedom of Speech!!!!

That is a non-offensive term been around for decades and every beef grazier around here cops that description!!!!

I have fallen out with an old friend recently, as they constantly try to correct my speech and my lifestyle beliefs.
I got grossly annoyed with their constantly trying to turn my opinions and beliefs around to theirs.
What I was brought up to believe and have strong standards are my beliefs and I will accept a sensible argument, but we all are entitled to our own beliefs and opinions.

It seems these days, everyone wants to tell you how to think and behave.
The same with a NSW Golf meeting last week.
Clubs cannot now give out minor cash prizes for the day.
Has to be vouchers.

As my "Cow %$#@y" friend afore-mentioned said, all that does is make the corporates richer.
Makes us little bush golf clubs poorer.

Every B$%#@rd wants to tell you how to think, act and behave.
It is becoming grossly annoying.

Magnarc · Guru

The Grey Nomads forum.

"It is what it is, but it ain't what it used to be".

dorian · Guru

rmoor wrote:
Geez.

Did A.I. edit my "cow %$^&y" description?
Talk about Freedom of Speech!!!!

Premature ejaculation. It's this forum's aggressive profanity filter, not AI, that is responsible for the censorship.

https://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t55058553/censorship-gone-mad/

fatty · Member

dorian wrote:
rmoor wrote:
Geez.

Did A.I. edit my "cow %$^&y" description?
Talk about Freedom of Speech!!!!
Premature ejaculation. It's this forum's aggressive profanity filter, not AI, that is responsible for the censorship.
https://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t55058553/censorship-gone-mad/
Pity they cant use the same filter to weed out the gutter level postings in the jokes section.

rmoor · Guru

That's a pretty fair comment!!!!

An edit on my innocuous age old description rural people use to describe our cow shepherding friends, yet some fairly heavy stuff gets through in the jokes section !!!

Not that I really mind most of the jokes, but the occasional one or two get through could be in poor taste.
Insight on TV tonight has an interesting topic:

"Death Of Debate?

You are entitled to your views, but do the rest of us have to hear them? Are terms such as "cancelled", "free speech" and "cultural safety" used in place of constructive, respectful debate? On this episode, Insight asks students, families, politicians, protesters and academics: "Have we lost the ability to disagree well?" "

The fuel is starting to have a serious impact in Western NSW. The price is creeping up every day, and yet we are told by those "in control" that there is plenty in reserve.
Then why the need for daily increases?
Also we get bombarded daily with Fuel distributors will be fined for price gouging.
How many have they nailed so far then?

My Cow "farmer" friends said they are desperately trying to access whatever diesel they can at any old price, as their usage levels are very high.
You would think they would be the first ones given access to safe supply - not?????

Ineedabiggerboat · Senior Member

Whats the point in paying $27 for Jerry can?

Brianvicki · Veteran Member

The other big problem facing farmers, more than diesel is access to urea to put their crops in.
Also supply of goods to the farmers

rmoor · Guru

Fair statement.

Reckon the country takes our farming community for granted much of the time.
It is tough going, particularly with our region down in average by 10 inches of rain up to Christmas '25.