Artificial Intelligence contributions.

rgren2 · Guru

Artificial Intelligence contributions.

landy · Guru

RE: AI contributions.

dorian · Guru

So far it's been relatively easy to spot them in the tech forums because AI often gets it wrong, and because many of its answers are general in nature.

EJP · Senior Member

What's AI? Wouldn't it be logical to spell out the topic rather than use initials, assuming it is initials.

rgren2 · Guru

Artificial Intelligence contributions.

Gundog · Guru

anyone tried ChatGPT of email

Blues Man · Guru

AI can be very very dangerous in the wrong hands,having said that ,the whole world will be

taken over with AI in less than twenty years. Thankfully i won't be around then.

landy · Guru

Gundog wrote:

anyone tried ChatGPT of email

I think Dorian may have said he had tried it in a thread two or three months back.

Santa · Guru

I've wondered about having a play, my investigation has led me to believe you have to take out a subscription, something I'm not prepared to do, if this is not the case I'm happy to be corrected.

dogbox · Guru

can auto correct be lumped into the same box, you write something an when you read it back, it could mean something different with a few substituted words

woolman · Guru

I used AI on our sheep. Stood for artificial insemination.
No wonder I am confused.

Neil

dorian · Guru

Santa wrote:
I've wondered about having a play, my investigation has led me to believe you have to take out a subscription, something I'm not prepared to do, if this is not the case I'm happy to be corrected.

No payment required, just email address and phone number (for verification purposes).

https://chat.openai.com/auth/login

ChatGPT Q & A samples:

https://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t69281407/chatgpt-next-generation-brave-new-world-is-already-here/

Santa · Guru

dorian wrote:
Santa wrote:
I've wondered about having a play, my investigation has led me to believe you have to take out a subscription, something I'm not prepared to do, if this is not the case I'm happy to be corrected.
No payment required, just email address and phone number (for verification purposes).
https://chat.openai.com/auth/login
ChatGPT Q & A samples:
https://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t69281407/chatgpt-next-generation-brave-new-world-is-already-here/

Thanks Dorian, you're right, I'm now in and having a play, interesting.

As a chess player this was my first effort, pretty convincing argument.

"Title: The Cognitive Shield: How Chess Prevents Alzheimer's Disease

Introduction (50 words): Chess, known for its strategic complexity and intellectual demands, has garnered attention for its potential to prevent Alzheimer's disease. Through stimulating cognitive abilities such as memory, attention, and strategic thinking, playing chess regularly can fortify neural connections and reduce the risk of cognitive decline.

Body (200 words): Chess exercises various cognitive abilities, making it a potential tool in preventing Alzheimer's disease. Memory enhancement is one significant benefit of playing chess. The game requires players to remember past moves, anticipate opponents' strategies, and recall rules. This continual mental workout strengthens memory pathways, potentially enhancing memory capacity and resilience against memory-related disorders.

Strategic thinking and problem-solving are at the core of chess. By assessing positions, considering multiple options, and predicting outcomes, players engage in critical thinking and abstract reasoning. These mental challenges promote cognitive flexibility and creativity, maintaining a healthy, active mind and potentially lowering the risk of cognitive decline.

Attention and concentration are vital in chess. Players must maintain focus, resist distractions, and sustain mental clarity. Regular engagement in concentrated mental activities strengthens attentional control and improves the ability to concentrate. These cognitive improvements may help prevent the decline seen in Alzheimer's disease.

Furthermore, chess serves as a social activity, promoting emotional well-being and combating isolation, which can contribute to cognitive decline. Engaging in chess clubs, tournaments, or online communities fosters social interaction, enhancing brain health and reducing the risk of Alzheimer's disease.

Conclusion (50 words): With its strategic demands and mental challenges, playing chess can help prevent Alzheimer's disease. By stimulating cognitive abilities such as memory, attention, and strategic thinking, chess strengthens neural connections and provides a shield against cognitive decline. Additionally, chess's social nature fosters emotional well-being, further contributing to brain health."

landy · Guru

Well done Santa. What did you actually have to input to get that fine piece of work back out ?

Santa · Guru

landy wrote:
Well done Santa. What did you actually have to input to get that fine piece of work back out ?

Thanks Landy.

This was my exact request; smile

"write an essay on why playing chess helps prevent alzheimers disease, 300 word limit"

dorian · Guru

Play while you still can.

AI poses 'risk of extinction', tech CEOs warn:

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/5/31/ai-poses-risk-of-extinction-tech-ceos-warn

Taipei, Taiwan -- Artificial intelligence poses a "risk of extinction" that calls for global action, leading computer scientists and technologists have warned.

"Mitigating the risk of extinction from AI should be a global priority alongside other societal scale risks such as pandemics and nuclear war," a group of AI experts and other high-profile figures said in a brief statement released by the Center for AI Safety, a San Francisco-based research and advocacy group, on Tuesday.

landy · Guru

Santa wrote:

landy wrote:
Well done Santa. What did you actually have to input to get that fine piece of work back out ?
Thanks Landy.
This was my exact request;
"write an essay on why playing chess helps prevent alzheimers disease, 300 word limit"

Thanks Santa and Dorian I really must stop looking and give this a try for myself.

-- Edited by landy on Wednesday 31st of May 2023 09:41:18 PM

-- Edited by landy on Wednesday 31st of May 2023 09:42:04 PM

landy · Guru

Done it and WOW, could not believe the speed it found the information and printed out an answer.

Question Explain the pro's and cons of a grey nomad lifestyle. 300 words.

The grey nomad lifestyle refers to a growing trend where retired individuals or couples in their senior years embrace a nomadic lifestyle, traveling extensively within their country or even internationally. While this lifestyle offers several advantages, it also comes with a set of challenges. Here are the pros and cons of a grey nomad lifestyle:

Pros:

Freedom and Adventure: One of the biggest advantages of being a grey nomad is the freedom to explore new places and embark on exciting adventures. It allows individuals to break away from the monotony of everyday life and experience new cultures, landscapes, and people.

Flexibility: Grey nomads have the flexibility to travel at their own pace and choose their destinations. They can adapt their itinerary as per their interests and spend more time in places they find fascinating.

Social Connections: Grey nomads have ample opportunities to meet and connect with fellow travelers, creating a vibrant social network. Engaging with like-minded individuals can lead to lifelong friendships and shared experiences.

Health and Well-being: The active nature of a nomadic lifestyle often promotes physical and mental well-being. Exploring new places, engaging in outdoor activities, and being close to nature can have a positive impact on health.

Cost-Effective: For some grey nomads, the cost of living while traveling can be lower compared to maintaining a traditional home. They can save on expenses like mortgage payments, utility bills, and property maintenance.

Cons:

Financial Considerations: While a grey nomad lifestyle can be cost-effective for some, it may require substantial financial planning. Expenses such as fuel, accommodation, and entertainment can add up, and there may be unforeseen costs like vehicle maintenance or health emergencies.

Homesickness: Being constantly on the move can lead to a sense of homesickness or longing for familiarity. Missing family, friends, and the comfort of a stable home can sometimes be challenging for grey nomads.

Limited Personal Space: Living in a smaller living space, such as a camper van or RV, means limited personal space. It can be challenging for individuals who value privacy and need their own personal sanctuary.

Health and Safety Concerns: Traveling long distances and being away from familiar healthcare providers can pose health and safety risks. Access to medical facilities, medications, and emergency services may be limited in certain remote areas.

Routine and Stability: For some people, the lack of a routine and stable environment can be unsettling. The constant change and uncertainty may lead to a sense of instability or restlessness.

In conclusion, the grey nomad lifestyle offers freedom, adventure, and social connections, but it also comes with financial considerations, homesickness, limited personal space, health and safety concerns, and a lack of routine and stability. It's important for individuals considering this lifestyle to weigh these pros and cons to make an informed decision.

Landy

Santa · Guru

Morning Landy, I'm trying to come up with a way I can use it more frequently.

It's a novelty that for me has limited applications.

Craig1 · Guru

Try it to define Collingwood Footballl Club

Whenarewethere · Guru

Maybe it could come up with a better bracket with 6mm clearance to mount and remove fridge from car boot. Took me months to come up with a design. Still happy with it and not much I would change other than minimal refinement.

landy · Guru

Santa wrote:

Morning Landy, I'm trying to come up with a way I can use it more frequently.
It's a novelty that for me has limited applications.

Not sure just how much more it can do for me at the moment Santa. I have been to busy today to devote any serious time to it, I had a Quick look a the DALL.E page

but it appears that you need to buy credits to play in that sandpit. There does appear to be some interesting tags 0n the API page that I will have a look at but if they turn out to

be pay to play I will be backing out.

In the past I have had several friends ask me if I have heard of or know any thing about ChatGPT it will be nice to now be able to engage with them with at least a little knowledge

on the subject. In the mean time I will keep an eye on this thread in the hope it builds into a more complete understanding of the subject.

Cheers Landy

landy · Guru

Whenarewethere wrote:

Maybe it could come up with a better bracket with 6mm clearance to mount and remove fridge from car boot. Took me months to come up with a design. Still happy with it and not much I would change other than minimal refinement.

With the right programer I think it probably could, but who would decide if it was a better bracket you or ChatGPT ? biggrin

peter67 · Guru

Let's hope our aspiring health professionals at uni don't use it for exams...

Whenarewethere · Guru

landy wrote:
Whenarewethere wrote:
Maybe it could come up with a better bracket with 6mm clearance to mount and remove fridge from car boot. Took me months to come up with a design. Still happy with it and not much I would change other than minimal refinement.

With the right programer I think it probably could, but who would decide if it was a better bracket you or ChatGPT ?

I just can't see it coming up with a set of plans.

Even though I only noted a couple of key points.

There was an almost endless list of issues. I didn't care which make of fridge it was, but as long as it fitted in the car. I had to measure many fridges & not just use the basic XYZ overall dimensions provided. Many days of measuring many fridges on this aspect alone.

The 28L Waeco was the only one, would have liked a bit more volume of an approximately 40L fridge. Had to remove one handle, the one facing the rear of the car. Could move the fridge further forward but then couldn't open the lid due to the boot cover.

It had to be fastened to about +/-3mm north south & +/- 5mm east west. East west the fridge is also slightly angled.

Still had to machine down the feet fastenings as they were too tall. I needed every last mm in height.

Also polished & curved the feet so when I slide the the fridge into the bracket the feet don't gradually chew up the boot floor over time with each cycle of moving fridge.

The height problem made worse due to the larger tyres on the car & the spare pushing up the boot floor 6mm. Really scraping the barrel for every last mm of height.

Ventilation was another issue, but so was maximum boot space widthwise, so put a better fan in the fridge.

The lid opens partially, but if I sacrificed boot space then I could open the lid more. Priorities! Then there is a solution required to hold up lid as it doesn't go over centre.

Also allowing for the additional insulation around the fridge which would push the fridge into the boot space a few mm.

Made the bracket mostly from aluminium to keep weight down but used 316 stainless in key areas to minimise wear & used stainless screws. I bought the Waeco mounting bracket for ideas, but put it in the bin.

So if ChatGPT can solve all this & provide a set of plans & specification sheet for all components, I will eat a broom!

Santa · Guru

My understanding ChatGPT is a language based chat bot, ask it to write a paper on a defined subject and it will oblige, of course the result is limited by how well you formulate your request.

It's not meant to prepare plans or blueprints. smile

smwhiskey · Senior Member

Santa wrote:
My understanding ChatGPT is a language based chat bot, ask it to write a paper on a defined subject and it will oblige, of course the result is limited by how well you formulate your request.

And how good the quality of information that it has stored and/or finds. From my understanding these things will troll the internet for data if required. And we all know the quality of some information out there. Garbage In = Garbage Out.

Whenarewethere · Guru

woolman wrote:
I used AI on our sheep. Stood for artificial insemination.
No wonder I am confused.

Artificial Insemination or Intelligence. One and the same. It's f..... internal organs!

Santa · Guru

smwhiskey wrote:
Santa wrote:
My understanding ChatGPT is a language based chat bot, ask it to write a paper on a defined subject and it will oblige, of course the result is limited by how well you formulate your request.
And how good the quality of information that it has stored and/or finds. From my understanding these things will troll the internet for data if required. And we all know the quality of some information out there. Garbage In = Garbage Out.

Chat GPT claims it's results are not internet generated!

As for "Garbage In = Garbage Out." see the comment in my last post

"the result is limited by how well you formulate your request" if you don't ask the right questions you won't get the desired result.

There is nothing in my chess essay request I would argue against.

This is the response to the question "where does ChatGPT access its information?"

"ChatGPT does not have direct access to the internet or specific external sources of information like a search engine. Its responses are generated based on the vast amount of text it has been trained on, which includes books, articles, websites, and other written materials up until its knowledge cutoff in September 2021.

During training, ChatGPT learns to make predictions and generate responses based on patterns and information contained within that training data. It doesn't have real-time updates or knowledge of events or information that occurred after its training period. Therefore, any information or facts provided by ChatGPT should be taken with caution and verified from up-to-date and reliable sources."

-- Edited by Santa on Saturday 3rd of June 2023 10:15:17 AM

smwhiskey · Senior Member

Santa wrote:
Chat GPT claims it's results are not internet generated!
As for "Garbage In = Garbage Out." see the comment in my last post
"the result is limited by how well you formulate your request" if you don't ask the right questions you won't get the desired result.
There is nothing in my chess essay request I would argue against.
This is the response to the question "where does ChatGPT access its information?"
"ChatGPT does not have direct access to the internet or specific external sources of information like a search engine. Its responses are generated based on the vast amount of text it has been trained on, which includes books, articles, websites, and other written materials up until its knowledge cutoff in September 2021.
During training, ChatGPT learns to make predictions and generate responses based on patterns and information contained within that training data. It doesn't have real-time updates or knowledge of events or information that occurred after its training period. Therefore, any information or facts provided by ChatGPT should be taken with caution and verified from up-to-date and reliable sources."

-- Edited by Santa on Saturday 3rd of June 2023 10:15:17 AM

My comment wasn't based on the quality of the input from the user but rather the data thats stored and used to produce the end result. Obvious question is where did they get all that information from. Their response didn't say but I'd be guessing that it came from the internet in the first place.

And I'm further guessing that they didn't individually review every document, every website, every scientific fact and every piece of information on every topic they've "trained" their system on for both accuracy and truth. Mostly because there would be a vast quantity of stuff but also because in some cases they wouldn't have the qualifications to know whether a particular document is correct or not. The fact that its not being updated with more recent data hints that whats there may stale and out of date. (I believe it still thinks Trump is president of the US)

As part of my job I've seriously looked at AI type tools at various times over the past 25+ years (mostly in the field of document scanning and OCR correction but more recently in the field of image pattern recognition) and time and time again we've found that if the training data is crap the results will be worse than crap. Or in other words Garbage in = Garbage out.

As far as I'm concerned, "AI" is a currently going through the buzzword phase of its life cycle and that means every marketing monkey, every manufacturer and every IT manager wants to incorporate AI into their product so they can use the phrase "Incorporates Artificial Intelligence" in their advertising. What most of them are discovering is that AI is a solution without a problem.