with the price of petrol now hitting $2.30 plus a litre............ im glad i dont tow a van any more i sold it and the ford falcon a while back when petrol was round $1.75 a litre.......im lucky i did it now i have a MAZDA 323 wagon 1800 with a roof rack for camping light goods on top ........ it gets over twice the kilometres of what the falcon did.........i however brought a good tent for myself to still enjoy trips away with my trusty dog to the river or beach .......i now wonder how high petrol will go and if it will ever come down again......cheers all
The fossil fuel industry has a limited lifetime now. All those that have made trillions of $'s off it realise this and will suck as much as they can out of consumers in the time they have left. Will use every excuse, every occurrence, any reason at all to raise and keep the price of their product as high as they can, they know we need it. They love the Russians, how much more they making because of them. If its not the Russians it will be someone or something else. Expect to continue to pay more, and more for petrol and diesel till you buy your first alternative powered car.
I'm lucky in that I don't have to go anywhere much, I can just stay home and not use much unless I choose to. I don't know how people who must travel can afford it. I paid $50-odd dollars today for HALF a tank. Filling a tank repeatedly would cost a bomb.
The fossil fuel industry has a limited lifetime now. All those that have made trillions of $'s off it realise this and will suck as much as they can out of consumers in the time they have left. Will use every excuse, every occurrence, any reason at all to raise and keep the price of their product as high as they can, they know we need it. They love the Russians, how much more they making because of them. If its not the Russians it will be someone or something else. Expect to continue to pay more, and more for petrol and diesel till you buy your first alternative powered car.
And this same ransom wont be held against us when we are all driving electric vehicles. Those in charge of this new power supply can see already that as Australians we are willing to pay to get around our large country.
They will still be providers of fuel, the government will still want their cut, and we will still need private transport in Australia mainly due to the size of our island.
This is why we should not have been listening to these zealots who think that closing power stations and buying electric cars will miraculously lift the perpetual pollution smog from China India and some other countries.
We in Australia will not only never fix this problem but we will end up a third world country trying.
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Always the naysayer, aren't you Ivan. How about you stick to the topic instead of your pet wheelbarrow ? No-one who really cares is buying your nonsense.
Nice profile pic Ivan. Is that your daily drive? How much it cost you to fill up and how many kms do you get? Quite sure the oil companies just love you.
Always the naysayer, aren't you Ivan. How about you stick to the topic instead of your pet wheelbarrow ? No-one who really cares is buying your nonsense.
I thought he spoke some sense.
What part of your train of thought actually thinks that once all these eV s are running around that those refuelling them wont want maximum profit on their return investment?
Do you really believe that those in power of our country will forego the tax and excise that they have been collecting since the inception of the Model T because everyone with an EV needs a break?
Do you find it outrageous that those who dont agree with you actually provide their view?
Do you believe that you and some others should be able to post their views openly and without opposing comment from those who may not agree?
Do you find any negative comment about EVs touches a nerve with you as you have one?
If you own or rely on shares for income then you will be the reason any supplier of fuel of any kind or any public business for that matter will maximise their profit at every opportunity.
A naysayer is not actually a naysayer when he speaks the truth.
With higher fuel prices maybe retirees will take shorter trips & stay in places longer.
They might even really get to know these places instead of driving thru them & saying that they've been to them.
Travel is about experiences, not burning fuel.
Some of them might even get out of their cars & go for a walk.
Nice profile pic Ivan. Is that your daily drive? How much it cost you to fill up and how many kms do you get? Quite sure the oil companies just love you.
No Corndoggy, it is not my daily drive. You must be jealous that it is a bit more creative than your avatar pic.
In fact it is a pic that formed part of a meme but Yobarr edited it for me to use as an avatar. See the avatar topic.
I will tell you one thing though Corndoggy, I am certainly glad I didnt have a picture of a horse as my avatar
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Welcome to Biggs Country many may know it as Australia
Always the naysayer, aren't you Ivan. How about you stick to the topic instead of your pet wheelbarrow ? No-one who really cares is buying your nonsense.
I thought he spoke some sense.
What part of your train of thought actually thinks that once all these eV s are running around that those refuelling them wont want maximum profit on their return investment?
Do you really believe that those in power of our country will forego the tax and excise that they have been collecting since the inception of the Model T because everyone with an EV needs a break?
Do you find it outrageous that those who dont agree with you actually provide their view?
Do you believe that you and some others should be able to post their views openly and without opposing comment from those who may not agree?
Do you find any negative comment about EVs touches a nerve with you as you have one?
If you own or rely on shares for income then you will be the reason any supplier of fuel of any kind or any public business for that matter will maximise their profit at every opportunity.
A naysayer is not actually a naysayer when he speaks the truth.
Oh Mr Dabbler,
I think Clarky hit the nail on the head when he said this.
A naysayer is not actually a naysayer when he speaks the truth.
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Welcome to Biggs Country many may know it as Australia
The fossil fuel industry has a limited lifetime now. All those that have made trillions of $'s off it realise this and will suck as much as they can out of consumers in the time they have left. Will use every excuse, every occurrence, any reason at all to raise and keep the price of their product as high as they can, they know we need it. They love the Russians, how much more they making because of them. If its not the Russians it will be someone or something else. Expect to continue to pay more, and more for petrol and diesel till you buy your first alternative powered car.
And this same ransom wont be held against us when we are all driving electric vehicles. Those in charge of this new power supply can see already that as Australians we are willing to pay to get around our large country.
They will still be providers of fuel, the government will still want their cut, and we will still need private transport in Australia mainly due to the size of our island.
This is why we should not have been listening to these zealots who think that closing power stations and buying electric cars will miraculously lift the perpetual pollution smog from China India and some other countries.
We in Australia will not only never fix this problem but we will end up a third world country trying.
I'm thinking of going back to when I was a young brave and ride a horse again.
just a thought who is going to shoe the horses ,pick up the poo (might be able to sell it to offset cost of running a horse) do horses produce methane could be an environmental issue i'm sure someone will come along an tell us the facts back in the day when i could walk under a horse i use to help grandad hitch up an sit up beside him to take the grain to the silo to sell i seem to remember that using horses was a lot of work
-- Edited by dogbox on Wednesday 6th of July 2022 10:25:08 AM
I am pleased you are keeping that reprobate on his toes or here otherwise we would all have to endure his arrogance.
He just cant let go of his ramblings with climate.
Well done and you have presented some very good questions which he cant answer.
I think you have got him worked out to a T.
how do people steal a post.....what the hell has naysayers to do with what i posted i have no idea.......why dont people post there own subject instead of stealing ......why dont the mediators delete the off subject posts ......this has got out of hand .......PLEASE STOP STEALING POSTS from now on stick to subject
You have to laugh at those that are moaning at the current prices of fuel... Now is one of the cheapest times to travel.. Come September there is going to be a twenty one cent jump in the price of fuel per litre .. Now I have to put in a bit more effort to travel and enjoy the wildflower season in a more northerly direction.. One thing that I have noticed is that the camper trailer style traveller are finding out just how cold it is ... compared to the heat from my diesel heater billowing out of the caravan door ... Another fuel which does not seemed to have rated any comments. Is the price of LPG. If that keeps jumping I may have to think about shorter showers.
You have to laugh at those that are moaning at the current prices of fuel... Now is one of the cheapest times to travel.. Come September there is going to be a twenty one cent jump in the price of fuel per litre .. Now I have to put in a bit more effort to travel and enjoy the wildflower season in a more northerly direction.. One thing that I have noticed is that the camper trailer style traveller are finding out just how cold it is ... compared to the heat from my diesel heater billowing out of the caravan door ... Another fuel which does not seemed to have rated any comments. Is the price of LPG. If that keeps jumping I may have to think about shorter showers.
Thanks Mark. Since this thread was started I have been sitting back chuckling to myself at how some people cant understand inflation, and cant do their own maths. If you compare the price of petrol in 1982 and the average wage in that year, with the price of petrol in 2022 and the average wage now, the figures are within 2% of one another. Now I will have to research the important stuff such as how beer prices compare over the same 40 years. Perhaps members could find something relevant to bleat about? If you cant afford the fuel, you cant afford the car. Stay home. Cheers
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