It is not a political post, Politics is not even mentioned. If it wasn't covid times and I was in my 20's I would go. My wife and I were at the Bloomfield track trying to stop it. But once decisions are made, rarely are they rescinded. It may happen in this case though from what I hear.
But really, if one wants to make a comment on any website on any topic you first need to build up respect.
It doesn't matter how good your point may be, it will only back fire.
If one asks someone to go to bed in the first nanosecond you will be pretty much assured of a belt in the head. If they do agree, it's probably not the person you would want!
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Maybe my post is political, but it should have to be. I suppose the National Parks we all enjoy, were political at the time. Ill attempt to upload a photo by Ted Mead - of an ancient myrtle over 500 years old, in the path to the tailings dam. It is typical of this ancient temperate rainforest of the Tarkine, going back 50million to dinosaur times. It is disappearing before our eyes, out of sight. Our kids may never experience it. Once people go there to experience it, they can then understand what the fuss is about.
This is a political post and needs to be removed. I would report it but can't find a link to do so
-- Edited by Chris61 on Wednesday 14th of July 2021 07:58:07 AM
It needs to be noted that there is absolutely NO compulsion to read any post. If I start to read a thread,and decide that I am not at all interested in the content,I simply close that thread,and look for something that does interest me. Might be old age,but I don't understand the need to bleat and moan for the sake of it.Often I will present an opposing view,or,as often happens, correct a member's apparent misunderstanding of something, usually about weights or a particular car's capabilities,(or the workings of a WDH!) but if I don't like what has been posted,I simply move on. Cheers
P.S Without being certain,I would suggest that if something causes you great distress,and you wish to moan about it,a message to Cindy,our Webmaster, would probably do the job?
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 14th of July 2021 04:17:48 PM
The Tarkine seems to get bigger every year. I always thought it was the area behind Roger River, trowutta possible including Balfour. Lived in the area for 60 years
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The so called Tarkine has been logged and mined for well over 100 years. There are certainly pockets of pristine areas in the area, the wholw area was logged supplying the local sawmills and the APPM paer mill. The Bob Brown Foundation wants it all and will not work with industry at all. This new tailings dam if and when granted will have a very small footprint in the scheme of things.
They all say they want renewable energy, but Bob Hawke stopped the Gordon below Franklin Dam many years ago, a huge renewable energy source and now every wind powered installation gets challenged as it might kill an eagle or a oranged bellied parrot.
No doubt Richard Hoskings has used an electronic device to start this topic, that has components that were once mined using energy, that very likely came from a coal fired power source. If we can't find an exceptable compromise we may have to live in an Utopian enviroment that doesn't exist
Unfortunately, Chris and I dont have much choice on the technology and power sources we use daily, except perhaps to use it less.
Being an optimist, I do have a choice when it comes to trying to protect the last remnants of these magnificent forests.
Ive been there recently and seen for myself both the magic, and the destruction thats happening there.
So now, I feel I have a responsibility to let others know, so they can go there and feel the magic, and hopefully do something about it.
Apparently, MMG have other options for locating their tailings dam, not in the Tarkine.
And fortunately, the Federal Environment Minister has just announced that MMG have to do an environmental impact statement before proceeding with this tailings dam.
That gives some breathing space.
Cheers, Richard.
Well Richard, we know where your coming from, the heart, we don't know where Chris is coming from, whether he is close in some way to the development.
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Chris lives inTasmania and has done all his life. I am sick to death of so called Greenies chaining themselves to machinery and stopping decent people from earning a living. I was indirectly linked to the logging industry when I first left school for 16 years, other than that I am not linked to the west coast of Tasmania. I am all for Tasmania to prosper and this means industry and nature to co exist
If you had to listen to the greens there was hot pools only 10 ks from where i lived a few years ago, when the gov wanted to put in a mine and wanted to update the road, and not in old growth forest it had been cut over years ago like most of that area
within 2 days the greens were telling the world about hot pools that no one had ever heard about
also in Tasmania there is only 300 wallabies left in the wild
I'd just like to know if an Australian company was big enough to mine "xyz" mineral in places such as China, would they be given the same rights to encroach on valuable land, forests, etc as Asian companies expect of Australia?
Chris, as a bird watcher I see renewable energy as a threat to our bird life - both wind & solar. I'd love to know how many hectares, square kilometres of forests, scrub has been cleared to cater for the enormous solar farms. Oh yes, I've been told that they save more CO2 than coal fired power stations but how many nesting sites have been got rid of? When one sees native birds fighting over nesting hollows, it makes you think.
And the big question hasn't been satisfactorily answered yet - who is going to recycle solar panels? What will their new use be?
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Richard, I have it on good authority, that the tailing dams, have to be reduced to a quarter of the size they want, and that , they may even have to tanker the waste water to the dam, and out to another area. The pipe line will not be approved. Don't ask me where I got this info. I do have a degree in Environmental Science and Technology so I know the damage that the tailings dam would have on the river if it burst. It would destroy the river for good, and no jobs are worth that.
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Monday 19th of July 2021 08:43:06 PM
