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Brodie Allen


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A short wake-up regarding PPI (Proton Pump Inhibitors) and their dangers.

 

Seems much more ominous than the "jab"!

 

PPI's are medications like ACIMAX (Omeprazole) and the like.

A huge proportion of older citizens are subject to "heartburn",

so these drugs are very commonly prescribed.

 

Have a look at the first paragraph (The rest is a bit heavy) and Google

"Dangers of PPI long term" or similar.

 

What I didn't see in this one "starter" article was the recommendation that this

medication not be used continuously for more than a few months, and when going

off them, the process should be slow and over a further few weeks. So far,

nobody that I have spoken to has been given these facts by their GP.

 

https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(17)30841-8/fulltext



-- Edited by Brodie Allen on Saturday 10th of July 2021 06:02:43 PM



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All medications have side affects, that's why it's important to take advice from your GP or specialist and not from well intentioned but untrained members of a forum.

In addition most medications come with an information leaflet, have a read through it and try to understand the information it's trying to convey.

There is also a wealth of information available online.

https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/medicines/brand/amt,3241011000036101/acimax



-- Edited by Santa on Saturday 10th of July 2021 06:23:16 PM

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Santa wrote:

All medications have side affects, that's why it's important to take advice from your GP or specialist and not from well intentioned but untrained members of a forum.

In addition most medications come with an information leaflet, have a read through it and try to understand the information it's trying to convey.

There is also a wealth of information available online.

https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/medicines/brand/amt,3241011000036101/acimax

Like everything that big pharma wants to push - negative effects conveniently largely pushed

aside and responsibility delegated to others.

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Hardly convincing - a manufacturers site of description Vs pages of research by different Labs.

 

I first heard about the dementia aspect of PPI's 10 years ago - it will stay largely minimised

until its an epidemic like Thalidomide. Money comes first.

 

Anywey, i/m orright avent been on whatsits for years. Not like joe.

 



-- Edited by Santa on Saturday 10th of July 2021 06:23:16 PM

 



-- Edited by Brodie Allen on Sunday 11th of July 2021 09:17:32 AM



-- Edited by Brodie Allen on Sunday 11th of July 2021 09:18:51 AM

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Seems we have another conspiracy theorist among us.biggrin

The information is there for all to see if your able to do a Google search and capable of understanding the advice offered.

The point is, no one is compelled to take any medication, if your research leads you to believe you would be better served suffering the affects and consequences of a treatable medical condition rather than take prescribed medication, it's your choice.

I'm sure most of us recall the furore when Statins first came on the scene, now most of us oldies take our daily dose without a second thought.smile



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Got your blinkers on, Santa.

Did you do the search I suggested?

Lots of learned medic establishments offer enormous amounts of evidence that
needs consideration with an open mind.

Big Pharma has a lot to answer for - eg, Roundup for one.

 



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Big Pharma has a lot to answer for - eg, Roundup for one.

 

Yep I suspect Roundup, (Glyphosate) as a medication would have some side affects.

My last post, cant keep up with your logic.biggrin

 



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Brodie Allen wrote:

A short wake-up regarding PPI (Proton Pump Inhibitors) and their dangers.

 Seems much more ominous than the "jab"! 

https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/action/showPdf?pii=S0025-6196%2817%2930841-8

Table 2 lists the "quality of evidence" for each risk as either "low" or "very low".

The adverse effects are tabulated as "likely causative", "association unclear", or "unlikely causative".

The "practice recommendations" for most of these adverse effects is "no recommendations".

Therefore it seems to me that the evidence is unclear, and most of the recommendations are to monitor the patient over time, or do nothing.

 

 



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"All medications have side affects, that's why it's important to take advice from your GP or specialist and not from well intentioned but untrained members of a forum." True, but I would suggest GPS are mostly responsible for over and conflicted medication problems caused by never reviewing existing prescriptions before adding new ones.

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Tony LEE wrote:

"All medications have side affects, that's why it's important to take advice from your GP or specialist and not from well intentioned but untrained members of a forum." True, but I would suggest GPS are mostly responsible for over and conflicted medication problems caused by never reviewing existing prescriptions before adding new ones.

 The Coronary Specialist who I see for a check up once a year is insistent that at each visit I present him with a list of my current medications along with the proscribing Dr & reason.  All supplements like Fish Oil are included.

Consequently I carry such a list in my wallet & phone.  It's surprising the number of times that I use it.  

BTW .. If I am proscribed a one off, say antibiotic, I enter that on the list too.

 



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I would wish they still had Ranitadine which was best for me, but they recalled it. I had no problem with it at all. Now I am stuck on a somac equivalent, and it just doesn't b....y work. My gut is in pain daily. Have had it explored but showing nothing. Just recurring Gastric reflux. Any forum doctors on here got a cure for me?



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Bicyclecamper wrote:

I would wish they still had Ranitadine which was best for me, but they recalled it. I had no problem with it at all. Now I am stuck on a somac equivalent, and it just doesn't b....y work. My gut is in pain daily. Have had it explored but showing nothing. Just recurring Gastric reflux. Any forum doctors on here got a cure for me?



-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Monday 12th of July 2021 03:48:26 PM

Bicyclecamper, I was on PPIs for a couple of years. They did work to reduce my reflux symptoms, but every six months or so I'd get a week or two of diarrhoea for no particular reason and I suspect it was because the reduced stomach acidity due to the PPIs allowed bugs to take hold occasionally.

So, I stopped the PPIs and now rely on 'lifestyle' changes to control my reflux, including smaller, blander and earlier meals in the evenings, and no fizzy drinks or alcohol before going to bed. Not as effective as PPI's, and I do miss my regular curry and a couple of pints, but sometimes we're too eager for a quick fix by reaching for the medicine cabinet rather than changing our habits and applying a bit of common sense!

So speaketh this forum doctor biggrin



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If you have had your gall bladder removed there's a fix safer than PPI's that

I find completely removes my Acid problems. Post if you have and I will expand.

 

Otherwise we won't bother the detractors.



-- Edited by Brodie Allen on Tuesday 13th of July 2021 02:22:03 PM

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Ric, Nizac has recently come back onto the market, 150 and 300 sizes. Not as good as Ranitadine, but probably will not kill you either.



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Craig1 and Mamil, I will try both. My esophagus valve is at the start of my stomach, not 2 inches up like everybody else's, so this is where my problem lies. It was designed only ever to eat vegetables, I found out, so I am a throwback to monkeys  apparently. But just don't call me a monkey because you know this. It is a defect that 15% of  the worlds population  have.



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