GAS BOTTLES OUT OF DATE

Dougwe · Chief one feather

GAS BOTTLES OUT OF DATE

oldbloke · Guru

Yes, agree. They are often way our of date. But to their credit I swapped one at Bunnings a few weeks ago and was only about 1 year old. At the time I quized the salesman and he said they are ALWAYS within date. He emphasised it too.

Personally if I was offered one out of the 10 yr test I would now call worksafe. It is their responsibility. IMHO companies only comply if they are forced to. It's all about profit. But stiff **** if you end up in the burns unit.

Worksafe 132360

Edit: If you were given an out of date bottle you should give the local worksafe office a call. You can remain anon if you want.

-- Edited by oldbloke on Tuesday 18th of August 2020 06:16:22 PM

Dougwe · Chief one feather

It was at the big green shed Neil.

Whenarewethere · Guru

133220

$11,000 fine for corporation.

$2,750 fine for individual.

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

The bottles can be Re checked. X Ray etc https://gasbottlerefills.com/gas-bottle-retesting/

-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Tuesday 18th of August 2020 06:58:48 PM

travelyounger · Guru

Yes I know the feeling I went to get a refill with a swap and go at bcf and was out of date so went to the big red and green shed to get a swap and go in date and could not find one after 5th month of 2010

iana · Guru

Have you had a good look at the stampings on the bottle, somewhere in my head I seem to recall the date stamp is else where.

PeterInSa · Guru

I have read somewhere that a Swap and Go Org, did not have to re stamp the bottles just Test, was given a full bottle and I could not find the date, all info had been ground off, checked a few more and found a dated 2020 bottle.

Its OK if you are in the City, you can use Organisations that will do an out of date swap, but in the country, you wont get a refill. When I mentioned this, it was suggested that I purchase a new bottle and get it refilled when empty.

Tony Bev · Guru

Thanks for that info Doug

I was led to believe, that at the first 10 year check, they then put a second date on the bottle, 10 years forward from being checked that second time

There may be another date stamped on it somewhere else

I don't know anyone at Bunnings, but I shall be checking my bottles from now on, just to be sociable

jebs · Veteran Member

The new date is stamped on the other top corner of the collar Ive had a few like that over the yrs

oldbloke · Guru

Tony Bev wrote:
Thanks for that info Doug

I was led to believe, that at the first 10 year check, they then put a second date on the bottle, 10 years forward from being checked that second time

There may be another date stamped on it somewhere else

I don't know anyone at Bunnings, but I shall be checking my bottles from now on, just to be sociable

Correct. And they are not exempt from the requirement. I asked an x inspector a couple of months ago.

I think Usually the procedure is:

Remove valve

Internal inspection

New valve installed

Pressure test

Stamp new date.

-- Edited by oldbloke on Wednesday 19th of August 2020 10:32:59 AM

Corndoggy · Senior Member

I thought it was law that if an out of date bottle could not be filled if there was not a current in date stamp on the bottle. I have been told my bottle couldn't be filled because of this. Ok to swap and go though. Problem with swap and go is how do you really know that bottle has been tested, not just looked at, with a stamp or without a stamp, just given a fresh coat of paint. You can't tell, the Bunnings dude can't tell even if he says so. These bottles just might get filled shipped off to Bunnings and sold to you as it was when it arrived at swap n go for filling. I've bought a brand new bottle, unfilled, unused and it was already 2 years into the 10 year limit. If your bottle is full and out of date does that mean you can't use the gas in the bottle. Think the time date is just for refilling. Though a caravan park we go to a lot went through and had all the permanents change their bottles to in date ones.

dabbler · Guru

This old chestnut just won't die. Swap n Go bottles are tested and refurbished as required. It's too big an enterprise to risk the fines if caught and bad PR if things go really pear-shaped. Personally I'd trust a Swap and Go that's been refurbished than a bottle that as been sitting on a van for 9 and a half years non-stop aside from when it's being refilled. The gas from in out of date cylinder can be used, they can't be refilled unless tested once out if date.

Craig1 · Guru

The date is re stamped in a totally obscure spot, hard to find

Bush walker · Veteran Member

I bought a swap and go bottle from bunnings and after I got home I noticed is was 8 yrs out of date, so I took it back and the next 2 bottles I checked were also out of date When checking the bottles if they have been retested they will have a second stamp on them With any exchange bottler make sure you check the date

Dougwe · Chief one feather

After reading about a second spot for dates I had a good look. No second date found. I have tested for any leaks and none. The bottle will be empty again in a couple of weeks because I use it every day for cooking. I also use it to re heat meals. Maybe I shouldn't cook as much.

I love my Q.

Keep Safe out there.

cjt55 · Senior Member

Have a glass of wine before your meal Dougwe to deter hunger urges. Well thats my argument anyway. All good over here. Should be finished the pruning in about 3 weeks then staying on to do some tractor work. Might as well stay here until everything eases up. Stay safe mate.

Radar · Guru

The other year we were in Maryborough Qld when we needed a gas refuel, the cheapest by our app was at a Gas Sales outlet. We called in and dropped our bottle off, the lady tech pen our name on the bottle, it was just a gas bottle, know idea where I got it, prob a green shed.

Anyway back to the story, later on, we picked up the gas bottle with my name on it, dropped it back into the cadle and now about 12 months later I went to our local fishing shed near home and the gent there said to me, " drop that one off at a swap and go as it getting a bit short on date but I did not say that".

I now suspect that I may of recieved a near out of date cylinder from my cheap gas person in Maryborough, its ok the gas was good price.

When I get mind refilled and he is checking the date, I get the marking pen out and write it clearly on the bottle with my mark.

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

If you check the link above it says all Bunnings bottles are checked .

gold dandelion · Senior Member

If you are using a 9kg bottle in two weeks I reckon you have more to worry about than an out of date bottle. I guess you are cooking with the lid down also, or maybe you are cooking roasts every day, then it should still last longer.

PeterInSa · Guru

For Info:
www.elgas.com.au/swapngo-swap-n-and-go-bbq-9kg-bottle-cylinder-gas-quick-kwik-swap-exchange

Mike Harding · Guru

gold dandelion wrote:
If you are using a 9kg bottle in two weeks I reckon you have more to worry about than an out of date bottle.

I go through a 9kg bottle in around two weeks with the three way fridge, cooking and the occasional inside shower (as opposed to heating shower water on the campfire for the outside shower).

Edit: Unless a mistake has occurred I cannot imagine Bunnings and/or Swap and Go would *not* test gas bottles! The cost saving would be small and the legal liability, both civil and criminal, would be huge.

-- Edited by Mike Harding on Thursday 20th of August 2020 07:08:36 AM

Radar · Guru

gold dandelion wrote:
If you are using a 9kg bottle in two weeks I reckon you have more to worry about than an out of date bottle. I guess you are cooking with the lid down also, or maybe you are cooking roasts every day, then it should still last longer.

Dougwe you are fairly normal, sorry to inform you of that.

In our mostly off grid travelling a 9kg gas bottle generally around the 14 day period I start to tripple check the 8 year old 180 litre frig to make sure it doing all the right things.

Dougwe · Chief one feather

Morning all,

Radar and GD, I have no problem with the amount of use out of the gas bottle, none at all. My original comment was only about how a 'Swap n Go' gas bottle was so far out of date. I was on the understanding they should all be within the 10 years date. Just like privately owned gas bottles. The test date I saw was the only date on there, no other secret dates anywhere. I have also checked the bottle I came back to teepee with and there is no secret dates on that either. I will however take more notice from now on.

I have sent an email to Elgas who are the parent company thanks to the link PeterInSa put up. I am still waiting on a reply and not holding my breath waiting. I will not make a big deal out of it this time but if there is another I will.

Keep Safe out there.