I am disappointed in what I have seen, by the mess and the destruction of the graveled areas at rest stops by those campers who have to make a fire, but don't use the supplied fire pit, or have their own above ground grate. Went to Lake Hart rest area, where we are a guest of the Aboriginal people, and the campers just don't care.
If we don't care for these facilities they will be taken away. On the plus side, the rubbish was not too bad, I did have to pick up for our neighbor, who threw his bottle tops into the cold fire and left his doggy bag on the ground.
I am disappointed in what I have seen, by the mess and the destruction of the graveled areas at rest stops by those campers who have to make a fire, but don't use the supplied fire pit, or have their own above ground grate. Went to Lake Hart rest area, where we are a guest of the Aboriginal people, and the campers just don't care.
If we don't care for these facilities they will be taken away. On the plus side, the rubbish was not too bad, I did have to pick up for our neighbor, who threw his bottle tops into the cold fire and left his doggy bag on the ground.
Like you iana I just get in there and pick up the stuff as annoying as it is. I suppose I resigned a long time ago that it wont ever change- some will leave a mess where ever they go. Our small town here has 210 people and happy hour sees new cans thrown on the side of the road every week. Once every 6 months I fill a garbage bag on my walk. I mumble a bit and snicker but someone has to do it...then its done.
But if I witness the event they get a tongue lashing. If that is ignored then an EPA report online and fine. No sympathy
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Couple of years ago, overnighted in a spot 180Km East of Norsemen WA. Within 15m of our caravan were 5 old campfires ( did'nt look pretty), picked out the cans/caps out of a couple of sets of ashes and into the provided bin, scattered/buried ashes and picked up the stones surrounding the campfires and thru them into the bush some distance away. Probably a short term solution because someone will take great satisfaction in finding the stones again for their campfire.
We do a very small section of Sydney Harbour every week. It is a spot we like to sit by the water. Fill a bag just about every time. Once I found $5 amongst the rubbish.
One New Year's Day spent hours over 2 days cleaning up broken beer bottles.
People not picking up after their dog number twos & sometimes they say they don't have a bag. We always have a spare doggy bag for these situations!
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Couple of years ago, overnighted in a spot 180Km East of Norsemen WA. Within 15m of our caravan were 5 old campfires ( did'nt look pretty), picked out the cans/caps out of a couple of sets of ashes and into the provided bin, scattered/buried ashes and picked up the stones surrounding the campfires and thru them into the bush some distance away. Probably a short term solution because someone will take great satisfaction in finding the stones again for their campfire.
I hate to see old campfires scattered around camp sites. I also love to get rid of the old stones around these areas and try and rejunvenate some if I can. I love a fire, however it is off the ground and does not damage the grass under the fire. Always bag the ash and dispose of properly, always wetting it down.
Couple of years ago, overnighted in a spot 180Km East of Norsemen WA. Within 15m of our caravan were 5 old campfires ( did'nt look pretty), picked out the cans/caps out of a couple of sets of ashes and into the provided bin, scattered/buried ashes and picked up the stones surrounding the campfires and thru them into the bush some distance away. Probably a short term solution because someone will take great satisfaction in finding the stones again for their campfire.
I hate to see old campfires scattered around camp sites. I also love to get rid of the old stones around these areas and try and rejunvenate some if I can. I love a fire, however it is off the ground and does not damage the grass under the fire. Always bag the ash and dispose of properly, always wetting it down.
Where do you dump your ash ''properly''?
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Couple of years ago, overnighted in a spot 180Km East of Norsemen WA. Within 15m of our caravan were 5 old campfires ( did'nt look pretty), picked out the cans/caps out of a couple of sets of ashes and into the provided bin, scattered/buried ashes and picked up the stones surrounding the campfires and thru them into the bush some distance away. Probably a short term solution because someone will take great satisfaction in finding the stones again for their campfire.
I hate to see old campfires scattered around camp sites. I also love to get rid of the old stones around these areas and try and rejunvenate some if I can. I love a fire, however it is off the ground and does not damage the grass under the fire. Always bag the ash and dispose of properly, always wetting it down.
Did you enjoy Girgarre Chris and did you visit Greens Lake down the road?
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Couple of years ago, overnighted in a spot 180Km East of Norsemen WA. Within 15m of our caravan were 5 old campfires ( did'nt look pretty), picked out the cans/caps out of a couple of sets of ashes and into the provided bin, scattered/buried ashes and picked up the stones surrounding the campfires and thru them into the bush some distance away. Probably a short term solution because someone will take great satisfaction in finding the stones again for their campfire.
I hate to see old campfires scattered around camp sites. I also love to get rid of the old stones around these areas and try and rejunvenate some if I can. I love a fire, however it is off the ground and does not damage the grass under the fire. Always bag the ash and dispose of properly, always wetting it down.
Did you enjoy Girgarre Chris and did you visit Greens Lake down the road?n
Gee, thats fancy. Id like one but too heavy for me. Looking for a compact & cheap sollution at the moment.
In sandy areas I dig a little hole so the ashes can be easy covered. Then staked near rubbish bin or take the unburnt logs with me . If staked? its away from common area, can be used for next person . Dont leave the ash on ground !!
I agree with all of you, but maybe we should start to photograph number plates of these inconsiderate individuals, that don't care, I too have seen remains of fires and rubbish at sites, when there is a bin not 25mts away ! Name and Shame is the way to go...
I agree with all of you, but maybe we should start to photograph number plates of these inconsiderate individuals, that don't care, I too have seen remains of fires and rubbish at sites, when there is a bin not 25mts away ! Name and Shame is the way to go...
This is the way to go, i have a small firepit. The amount of wood people burn on open style bonfires is disgusting. You can tell which people don't bring or buy wood. They are taking everything they can.
When we camp with a group of friends we have a big fire-pot off the ground.
When we are on our own,we have a fire pot made out of a washing machine.
To burn that amount of wood is such a waste, at the rate it is being consumed there will be none left. when people are forced to buy it, then we will see these fires get smaller fast. If it is free abuse it.
I received a bit of feedback, so I will answer all in one post.
Where do you dump your ash ''properly''? 90% of the time, it is emptied into a garbage bag after it has been completely extinguished with water, more water is added to bag afterwards as well, absolutely no chance of fire. If I stay more than one night, I will empty firepot each day before relighting just to keep ash to a minimum. I can carry garbage bag in the tray of the Iveco to find an appropriate bin if there is not one at the campsite. A garbage bag of ash fits easily into the barrel, so not messy if I need to carry any distance.
Did you enjoy Girgarre Chris and did you visit Greens Lake down the road? Girgarre is a fantastic campsite, we stayed here only for one night before catching the "Spirit" back to Tassie in early August. I didn't even know about Greens Lake, however I may have drove past it heading for Melbourne
Gee, thats fancy. Id like one but too heavy for me. Looking for a compact & cheap sollution at the moment. The barrel seperates into 3 pieces and sits nicely on top of my spare wheel and in the middle of my gullwing toolbox. The 5th wheeler can also go to 90° without catching on it, so no damage to the nosecone. I am under sixty still, so at the moment I have no trouble lifting it into position
This is the way to go, i have a small firepit. The amount of wood people burn on open style bonfires is disgusting. You can tell which people don't bring or buy wood. They are taking everything they can.
Paull,If you notice when there is just the two of us,we have a fire no bigger than the one in your Avatar.
When we have a group of us,there can be 8 to 12 of us.
So say there are 5 couples,if each couple has a fire the same size as yours,that would burn more wood than 1 large fire that we all sit around.
Think about it,multiply your fire 5 times
-- Edited by Plain Truth on Thursday 22nd of August 2019 10:39:34 AM
This is the way to go, i have a small firepit. The amount of wood people burn on open style bonfires is disgusting. You can tell which people don't bring or buy wood. They are taking everything they can.
Totally agree.
This amount of wood would heat our lounge/dining area for 2 or 3 weeks.
Look at that pile of ash behind the wood pile.
We've had 6 people sitting in a semicircle around our Ozpig & everyone was quite warm enough. It uses very little timber. We quite often have to move back further because its too hot.
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When we leave our campsite we clean up and take everything away,we leave it better than we found it.Sometimes we even have a bit of wood left over for the next camper.
Better to light a fire over an existing fire scar.
Better still don't light one at all.
The environment will love you for it & the area will still have some attractive vegetation left to enjoy.
Don't you remember posting on this forum,that you had a fire every night when you stayed on Imlay Rd. near the Newtons Crossing turnoff.
Then you ask someone on this forum what did they do with their ashes,what did you do with yours.
-- Edited by Plain Truth on Friday 23rd of August 2019 06:44:06 PM
Yes we stayed a few nights & had a small fire not an inferno like you obviously enjoy.
It was a newly bulldozed area large enough for one caravan.
There was wood laying around everywhere from the knocked down forest, we left almost all of it for people that followed us.
We left our ash in the newly installed metal fireplace provided.
Lovely spot by the way.
Know the area well,If you look when there is just the 2 of us we have a firepot. when we go in a group we have a bigger fire, all wood lying on the ground ,just like you.
