Inner City stays.

palaceboy · Veteran Member

Inner City stays.

Possum3 · Guru

I'm guessing it would be an insurance nightmare if something goes t!ts up. To get anywhere near the City centre in most States may be difficult, perhaps in the suburbs near well serviced public transport may be an idea.

Rob Driver · Guru

I saw on a tv report the other morning of people now renting all sorts of their private space for different uses.
The one that I thought warranted more attention was long term daily parking in private driveways.
This would help many with high parking fees.

I think your thoughts have some merit palaceboy and agree with Possum3s thoughts as well.

Aussie1 · Guru

Good thinking palaceboy. Always great when someone thinks "outside the box". If we didn't have thinkers like you nothing new would ever be tried. Sure , there could be some obstacles to overcome but, they can often be overcome. Hope your idea grows.

Yuglamron · Guru

As Possum says it could be an insurance nightmare.

No idea what the insurance companies do with stuff like Airbnb and Uber. Do Uber drivers have to be insured as a business to take passengers. Do Airbnb owners have to have insurance?

I expect you could make a bob or two if you live say near the Spirit Of Tasmania Terminal or as Palaceboy says near a social venue area.

palaceboy · Veteran Member

Yuglamron wrote:
As Possum says it could be an insurance nightmare.
No idea what the insurance companies do with stuff like Airbnb and Uber. Do Uber drivers have to be insured as a business to take passengers. Do Airbnb owners have to have insurance?
I expect you could make a bob or two if you live say near the Spirit Of Tasmania Terminal or as Palaceboy says near a social venue area.

At this stage I'm checking demand, would people be willing to use this type of accommodation in these vicinities :) I certainly would. I reckon I'd need an inner city fix after say crossing the Nullabour or traversing the Newell.

-- Edited by palaceboy on Saturday 29th of September 2018 11:41:37 AM

Peter_n_Margaret · Guru

CMCA already has a system of free camping spots like this called MSO's (Member Stop Overs) where Members make their properties available free of charge to other Members.
Only a very few are in cities though.
The NZ club also has a similar arrangement called POPs (Pop Over Properties). There are something like 2,000 of those.
Cheers,
Peter

hako · Guru

Insurance can always be overcome at a price - the biggest and probably insurmountable problem is the council. Remember that bloke over in Menzies W.A. who got fined for camping on his own block despite being isolated. You simply cannot camp on your own block fullstop....basically anywhere. Not sure I'd like my neighbour turning his backyard into a campground either.
Good idea but....

Good Luck.

PeterX · Senior Member

Insurance and legalities can be overcome. As far as I know airbnb ( short stay ) accommodation offerings still do not confirm to fire department regulations.
When Uber started in Queensland, government seemed not to enforce existing laws. The service was not approved by government.

The block in Menzies W.A had no toilet and claimed to empty this stuff in a bucket at local caravan park. I would be skeptical of this statement.

I think if their is demand for it , good idea.

Also, Their are podcasts about some of these startups mentioned

On a side note, as an engineer I think composting toilets have great potential.

AndyCap100 · Senior Member

Hi,,yes the `pops` over here in NZ are a good way to save money whilst travelling ,and are very well used .Allsorts, from just the basic field to those with a shower, power and other ammenities . Most main stream camping sites are getting rediculously expensive ($ 48-$ 55 per 2 people per night ) which to us is crazy if you don`t need there full services .Regards Andy .

palaceboy · Veteran Member

Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
CMCA already has a system of free camping spots like this called MSO's (Member Stop Overs) where Members make their properties available free of charge to other Members.
Only a very few are in cities though.
The NZ club also has a similar arrangement called POPs (Pop Over Properties). There are something like 2,000 of those.
Cheers,
Peter

That sounds exactly the same, except I wanted to empathise the urban aspect. The more rural aspect is fairly simple in relation to space at least. It's good to see there is a system in its infancy at least.

As for having a camping ground next door, I definitely take your point on that one. Got to admit I can think of plenty of scenarios where I wouldnt like it either.

Yes the Councils definitely are the biggest hurdle. I know of people here in the Moreland council area who have those long-term overseas students staying not only in their house, they also have two Caravans set up on their property. That's on Nicholson St just on the North side of Moreland Rd, so that's very close to Brunswick. Moreland Council isn't the easiest to get along with, however, they've been doing this for years. Those caravans aren't coming and going though. Their set up is where I actually formed the idea, that and the fact that I wanted to build an outside toilet shower and kitchen at my place combined with a Caravan spot under cover and figured I could Airbnb out my property and stay in the Caravan away from the house whilst Airbnb guests stayed.. Then I figured, I can do this the other way around as well.... rent out the space with any facilities I build.. This a great location for Melbournes Amenities, Lots of Public Transport and a 20 dollar Uber ride from the city top whack.....Solves the designated driver issue.

Personally I think councils only react to neighbour complaints generally speaking. I'm fine I think in my locale. Lot's of others wont be though.

It's the demand I wanted to check at this stage. Lots of Caravaners seem to want to avoid Cities at all costs. Maybe if given the choice they would want to come closer in?

-- Edited by palaceboy on Sunday 30th of September 2018 07:18:33 AM

mezza56 · Senior Member

I've driven thru and around coburg area and much more of melb, its a nightmare in a car let alone towing a caravan ? Most grey nomads are trying to get away from that sort of traffic , we manage a park on the outskirts of melb and we get lots of people skirting right round the outside , those that go through it leave at the crack of dawn to avoid the traffic . I applaud your entrepreneurship , but I think your aiming at a select few. We get a lot of people staying and catching the train in as they don't want to drive their car in .

palaceboy · Veteran Member

mezza56 wrote:
I've driven thru and around coburg area and much more of melb, its a nightmare in a car let alone towing a caravan ? Most grey nomads are trying to get away from that sort of traffic , we manage a park on the outskirts of melb and we get lots of people skirting right round the outside , those that go through it leave at the crack of dawn to avoid the traffic . I applaud your entrepreneurship , but I think your aiming at a select few. We get a lot of people staying and catching the train in as they don't want to drive their car in .

I figured that might be the case. Cheers Mezza :)

Oka374 · Veteran Member

We avoid cities and big towns like the plague both here and overseas but can understand where you are coming from just not our scene.