When I'm home in my normal house, a little south of Melbourne, I feel the cold much like anyone else as far as I observe. At 20C+ I'm comfortable with just a shirt and jeans, at 18C I need to put a light jumper on, at 14C it's a heavier jumper. I set the heating to keep my living space at 19C and soon feel the cold if it falls below 18C.
In the bush however: I find I wander around in a shirt at 15C and less, I don't need a jumper until around 12C and I can happily sit and read by the camp fire in an ambient of 5C. At home I'd be frozen in such temperatures!
Am I just weird (that was a rhetorical question :) ) or do others experience a similar difference between home and bush?
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Well I was in Tasmania Last Sunday and Temperature was 13 and I thought that's funny as I thought it was meant to be freezing but just had a T shirt on. Night time was freezing but days nice. I thought this is not as cold as adelaide.
Wind chill factor makes a huge difference. I can be out in the yard or walking the dog on a sunny, but not windy, 12C in a t-shirt. Today was 13C & sunny but with a wind chill factor taking it 4-5C lower. I had a beanie & two jumpers walking the dog. From house, across an open reserve (~300m) to bush walking the dog can be cold & windy (hat & two jumpers) but when I go into the bush and there is wind protection from the trees and undulating land, I'm ditching at least one jumper until I exit again. In the summer it's opposite. Hot starting out, beautiful & cool thru the bush and hot again on exiting.
I come from a sub 20 deg climate in a bad winter. So, the cold doeasn't, Physically bother me. But I hate it.
Hence live in Queensland.
Heater is on now. 27deg. Night and day. till our 7 weeks or so "winter" is gone. 8 Days in Melb from tomorrer. I'll be wrapped up to ears. with winter woolies. SOCKS. (I never wear socks) Skivvy. Jumper and jacket. Lined. 64gig MicroSD full of movies and music. Coupla bottles of decent grog. SHe'll be right.
Hey. If you apply to Air carriers for "Upgrade" tickets. If any of the Business class avail you can Offer\Bid. for them. We always do. $50 every long flight. Rocky to Melb. Business. For Extra $50 per seat. each way.. Syd to West coast US was same last yr.
Cattle price plus $50 each seat. each way.(If avail both ways.)
Is better than an empty seat in their eyes
We've done it for 15 yrs or more.
.Some you win. Some you don't.
Clever little missus hey.
-- Edited by macka17 on Friday 11th of August 2017 07:39:31 PM
I reckon it's due in part to a different "mindset" when in the bush especially with a fire, plus you tend to be more active camping and your mind is not dwelling on mundane everyday things.
Whatever - it's great!
Landed in Sydney from Bahrain this morning at 6am where it was around 15deg. It felt like heaven especially after spending the last five weeks in temperatures between 40 and 47deg during the day and not getting below 35 at night. At least when it's in the temperature range that your talking about you can always add some more clothes or light a fire if you're uncomfortable. I agree with RustyD the wind chill can be a big factor as can how active you are or how much weight you are carrying - fat is a great insulator ask any seal.
The Belmont Beat. Was it nice to breath fresh air again? Coming back from assignments in Asia (1980s) this time of year, the crisp, clear air in Melbourne was so nice.
It's a bit chilly (12-13 degrees in Townsville) some mornings at 6am when I'm out hand watering our dying gardens while we're on L3 restrictions - for another two years according to the council if we get another failed wet season.
Warren
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Yes RustyD it was great to fly over the harbour, breathe the cool crisp air, see trees other than date palms, to drive in traffic that actually followed the road rules, to see a clear blue sky that I haven't seen for over 5 weeks due to the humidy and best of all to hear some aussie accents. Nice to be home but in a few weeks it looks like we will have a another job starting in Oman - so much for my retiremment I'm only working to upgrade our tug......that Sahara sure sounds nice.
-- Edited by The Belmont Bear on Saturday 12th of August 2017 11:01:41 PM
As others have said, I feel colder being indoors and sedentary, whereas outdoors and active generates body heat - different feel, even when colder outdoors.
I like the winter air, clean and fresh. We get more than enough heat in summer in Vic. We get real seasons and see the trees change = variety.
Having lived and worked in N. Europe for several years, to me the climate here is nothing to complain about. Love N. Europe, but summers too short and long dark freezing winters. It's what you get used to I suppose, but to me excessively humid climates are unpleasant and unhealthy (stale air, mould, too much recirculating a/c).
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Grey Nomads in Southern Vic have the best of all worlds. Beautiful spring, summer & autumn and go north for a month or so in Winter. I'd rather put up with the cold or tripping north in winter than the humidity over summer. Having said that, down south our summers seem to be getting more humid over the last 5 or 6 years.
...down south our summers seem to be getting more humid over the last 5 or 6 years.
True, they have, let's hope they don't become as humid as the tropics though! Certainly some Southerners travel north for a time in winter, some Queenslanders do the opposite migration south in the summer, presumably to escape the wet and the cyclones. Two parks we were at, one in Feb & one in March, were 90% Queensland reg. I counted 'em! Maybe it proves many of us aren't happy enough in one climate year round?
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For me, southern Victoria has an almost perfect climate.
Four distinct seasons; Spring and Autumn being delightful in their variation from cool to warm with decent but not excessive rain although the wind can occasionally be strong in these seasons.
Summer is warm to hot but the hot periods seldom last more than a few days and then it's back to 18C.
Winter, for me, marks the rotation of the year: it's clearly the coolest of the seasons but never so cold as to be unpleasant, even the -5C nights in the bush are crisp and clear and followed by fresh bright mornings by the campfire. None of that five months of dark, damp and frozen winter of northern Europe - I could not tolerate that again.
At one time I thought of moving to northern NSW/southern Qld but I know I would soon tire of the lack of variation in the climate. I am very attuned to the weather and delight in the gentle variations of southern Vic.
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Winter, for me, marks the rotation of the year: it's clearly the coolest of the seasons but never so cold as to be unpleasant, even the -5C nights in the bush are crisp and clear and followed by fresh bright mornings by the campfire. None of that five months of dark, damp and frozen winter of northern Europe - I could not tolerate that again.
Had a Norwegian boss many years ago. Someone asked him about the weather and its restriction on activities. His reply was that there was only 2 activities in Norway - sex & golf. And you could only play golf 3 months of the year.
