Cyclone Debbie

MOLLUSCAN · Senior Member

Cyclone Debbie

Travel Bug · Guru

Ditto from me.

Take care and stay safe out there everyone.

Thinking of all of you.

Gaylehere · Guru

Yes, same here to all the travellers and also to the Grey Nomads who live up in that area. Hope your homes and your vans, tugs, RV's are all safe and secure.

Cadpete · Guru

My Nephew and wife live in a caravan directly in the path - they have moved temporarily to Charters Towers to wait out the storm. Doubt they'll be reading this as they are nowhere near grey :)

Cupie · Guru

My 78YO sister lives in a lovingly furnished 1930s home in Bowen township. Her frail husband has been evacuated. She has relocated to be with a friend who needs a carer. A Niece lives in their beautiful (at the moment) house on The Esplanade with palm framed ocean views .

A very worrying time for us all.

Mike Harding · Guru

222kph gusts on Hamilton Island! And an average around 175kph.

I've been in gusts around 160kph and I don't want to even think about 222kph.

Edit - forgot link:

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDQ60801/IDQ60801.94368.shtml

-- Edited by Mike Harding on Tuesday 28th of March 2017 10:22:17 AM

Roundthebend · Veteran Member

I went through the eye of cyclone Yasi and it's scary but the worst is the aftermath of where to start with all the divestation, I feel for all the people in the path of Debbie.

DMaxer · Guru

I have watched and listened to all the warnings given by SES and the Qld Government as to the necessity to take shelter and not to venture out into the gale force winds.

What do we see? A bunch of total boofheads from the television stations standing out in the wind and rain giving us a report on the wind and the rain. If one of these clowns got cleaned up by flying debris then a rescue vehicle and personnel would risk their own safety to cart the offending miscreant off for medical treatment.

It makes me wonder just how vacuous these television people must be.

TheHeaths · Guru

I am with you DMAxer. Kathy and I spoke about this just as we sat down to lunch.

I am afraid I am too cynical, as while watching, and seeing the reporters mouth the concerns they had for those most affected by this, I could not help but think that what they really wanted to happen was a major building collapse, or a roof fly past , or boats pile up on each other in the marina, so that they would have the sensational aspect they so desperately crave in my opinion. We found it especially silly as one reporter stood in the wind and rain for his report, then moved into the shelter to finalise his "cross". Then obviously got told to go back out, as 30 seconds later, he was in the rain and wind again!

It surprises me that the Police even allowed them into the area when the evacuation orders are in place. Obviously one rule for the media, and one for the residents.

brickies · Guru

The only way to stop these clowns is to stop watching their reports .

adreamer · Senior Member

This is their job and they are trained to be in these situations. Hope you don't think they pick up a Microphone and start spruiking all on their own!!

What about all the brave reporters who go to war zones??

This is why you all watch the news?

Helen

Kebbin · Guru

So do you know that they are trained in OH&S as well as first aid with some skills in rescue or are you assuming?

adreamer · Senior Member

Kebbin wrote:
So do you know that they are trained in OH&S as well as first aid with some skills in rescue or are you assuming?

I am not even going to reply.

ps rescue is not their area.

Give you 5 seconds to reply

DMaxer · Guru

War correspondents are completely different. They are usually embedded with the cooperation of the military and given a certain level of protection.

There is no necessity for any sane person to stand out in the middle of the rain and wind to tell us about the rain and the wind. If it was a bushfire would these morons be standing in the middle of the blazing inferno, smoke coming off their clothes, reporting that there was a fire? No, they are back at a safe distance.

It is just sensationalism and completely uncalled for. We know it is raining, we know it is windy. Does it help you understand what is happening Adreamer?

Darmc · Veteran Member

JCU Cyclone Testing Station do analyse some of the footage, as it can be helpful in there research. They do not have a lot of footage of cyclones, as the most recent ones have crossed the coast during the night.
If anyone is interested they have a very good website with there research results of cyclone damage.
Darmc

macka17 · Guru

How can you sensationalize something the planet has been doing "Annually" for hundreds of thousands of yrs.
All she's doing in reality. is sweeping some of the rubbish off the lounge carpets.
Has it made any difference. Haaaa.

It's humans that put themselves inn peril.
Knowing it's going to happen, yet they keep on living/building
in the wrong places with wrong materials/design.

Sorry but we're dumb as. Asking for it.

These reporters are just stupid Southern sensation makers,
or trying to be.
a few sliced with flying corrugated sheets
would maybe knock a bit of sense into the dumb b's hey.
This repeats every yr again. and again.
Stopped being news 100 yrs ago.

Shows how desperate they are for something to talk about nowadays hey.

I haven't sat and watched the "news" for over 10 yrs.
They only tell you what "they" according to channel.
want you to hear.

(This new keyboard is niiiiice.) It works. yeaaaaay.

TheHeaths · Guru

1) We stopped watching the reports after the first one we saw this morning. We only had it on the channel to see if the midday movie Kathy wanted to watch came on.

2) I also question having reporters in war zones. I do not think we need to see that either. I know I am not better informed, or personally uplifted by the experience of seeing war, and I can state categorically seeing war reports hasn't stopped one government from starting a war.

3) I do not watch any news to see sensationalised reports, but to get information. A nit wit standing in a storm getting asked such in depth questions as "what is it like there now?" when I can see the wind and rain is not giving me any additional information that I hadn't already gathered, and without personal experience of it, all the words I hear cannot prepare me for it..

4) I doubt they are given any special training to be in the area. Certainly I doubt they are trained to deal with being blown away by a sudden gust of wind, or hit by flying roofing iron.

5) People were advised to stay indoors due to risk of injury. Reporters would be well advised to do the same. Cyclones cannot discern between Joe General Public, and Frank Super Reporter as to who to hit with debris.

I agree that the pictures would be good for research and hopefully some good information can come from it for the future. Anyway. all from me on the subject.

kiwijims · Guru

From my nice dry lounge chair here in the West, here is the latest report on Cyclone Debbie ( with-out any Bull )

Severe tropical cyclone Debbie ......is a category 3 cyclone. The system is forecast
to move slowly southwest over the next 12 to 18 hours before curving to a more
southerly track over inland Queensland. The cyclone made landfall near Airlie
Beach around midday and has started weakening as it moves slowly inland. The
system is expected to move further inland this afternoon and evening, and the
peak winds near the centre will weaken rapidly. However, heavy rain is expected
to continue across the region.

Recent significant wind gust observations include:

- 262 km/h at Hamilton Island airport at 10:30 am
- 165 km/h at Proserpine Airport 12:57 am
- 148 km/h at Bowen Airport at 2:24 pm

K.J.

-- Edited by kiwijims on Tuesday 28th of March 2017 04:26:29 PM

brickies · Guru

Now we are warned of heavy rain west to Emerald south to northern NSW , So Grey nomads stay put if you don't want to get caught up in floods in your travels into Queensland

Happywanderer · The Master

It was pouring down in Emerald mid afternoon today and not a drop out here in Sapphire.
Very grey and slightly windy. We will get rain, just not sure when.

brickies · Guru

We got a bom alert this afternoon which said Emerald tuesday and lots of rain in Brisbane by Thursday kept an eye on bom and keep away from flood area local should know if you are in a safe area .

macka17 · Guru

Stay out of low lying areas and you'll be fine.

Cupie · Guru

Magic day here in Port Macquarie. Sunny, cool breeze & the water is clearing up from the run off & debris.

Heading north to Woolgoolga on Thursday.

Let's hope that the rain stays north/west for a few more days.

Still waiting for news of how the relies went in Bowen today. Fingers crossed.

macka17 · Guru

Warm. dry (finally) and light winds at present. Yeppoon

kiwijims · Guru

At 3am EST Ex-Tropical Cyclone Debbie was located over inland central Queensland
about 80 kilometres west southwest of Collinsville and 145 kilometres northwest
of Moranbah. The system is expected to continue moving southwards over the
central interior of the state today before tracking southeastwards during
Thursday.

Widespread
daily rainfall totals of 150 to 250 mm are expected, with significantly higher
totals possible locally. This rainfall will likely be very intense at times,
leading to a risk of localised flash flooding. Locations that may be affected
include Mackay, Sarina, Carmila, Yeppoon, Moranbah, Clermont, Emerald,
Springsure and Rolleston.

"Ah Queensland", Beautiful one day, wet the next. !!

Ya might have spoken too soon Macka biggrin

K.J.

-- Edited by kiwijims on Wednesday 29th of March 2017 05:00:28 AM

brickies · Guru

KJ They should have headed north

kiwijims · Guru

brickies wrote:
KJ They should have headed north

"Yep" They just wouldn't listen to us "Ah" brickies. biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin

K.J.

macka17 · Guru

KJ.

Yep. 4 am now. pretty strong gusts but boat not moved yet (shhhh)

We've had solid rain now since around last tues\wed. with one day off.
still doing it.
But we on perimiter, so far so only getting reasonable weather.

These Cyclones, primarily. are destroying the older buildings.
Look at camera shots.
ALl timber frame\tin cladding.
Solids. Brick\Block\Concrete. fine.

The last 25\30 yrs. all "Legal" built buildings are\were built to Cat 3.
Ours round here took last Cat 5 no problems. Just a few gutters.

The older Timber building suffer.
Even sheds and carports are "supposedly", built Cat 3.
IE Our front carport cost $17k with concrete floor.
A normal one would have been grand or so for concrete
and maybe 2k for steel post tin top carport.

The roof beams on this are laminated 2 in by 10in beams 400mm apart
. Main outers 2 x 12 in.
bolted to house wall (double brick) with 16mm bolts. (yes. 16mm dia...)

That's why homes up here are so exxy and stand up.
Our walls. double brick are 3\4 reo rods tied into slab. up inside walls
over tops.and across to other sides.
with roof trusses all solid hardwood (no pine in home at all)
apart from skirts for termite warning) strapped down to those rods.

My slab also 27inches thick at front half.
And that's just a good reputation builder. Nothing special.

You Southerners would die if you saw the materials that go into QLD ,
North of Gladdy, Cat 3 homes.

Eventually.
All the old timber\tin stuff will be blown down and things won't be much of a problem anymore.
Apart from building in flooding and actual coast. areas.

News readers will be lost for subjects then hey.

Like I said. This has been going on Annually for thousands of yrs. No different.
just maybe stronger winds in future with the climate change.
We'll see.

The newsreaders were saying we'll now "swelter" in after cyclone temp's.
32\36 with humidity running down the walls is std for Townsville and above this time of yr. 26\7 O/Night.
People Normally have to wipe the mould spots off all walls about every 6 months or so.
I did.
It's just normal weather with a blow through coupla times a yr.

Look at reports. It's 99% the old timber\tin stuff blowing away.
and the stupid canvas awning the idiots leave up to flap out for insurance.

We just used to lock up then sit it out down the pub.
Boats up the mangrove creeks. (too many for that nowadays).
The old homes getting TOO old now to handle it.

kiwijims · Guru

That sounds like you have a very strong building there Macka, with all that extra reinforcing and a solid pad underneath, you could outride any Cyclone.

I was surprised how the mould appeared on the walls of homes up in the Tropics, we visited a friend in Cairns a few years back and saw first hand the problem, although it was their winter at the time, they still had fans going in every room, just to keep the air moving, like you they were constantly wiping down the walls, personally, we couldn't stand living like that, but I suppose when one is born into those conditions, one is used to it.

It's funny how you change, as a young Snapper, being bought up in the very cold conditions of Winter in Kiwi-land's South Island, we thought very little of waking on a winter morning and scraping the ice off the inside of the bedroom windows to see out, we would soon warm up, chopping wood for the big open fire. then after that I would jump into an old top-less 34 Chev Hot-rod and drive a short distance to work,

Tough Blokes we were back in those days, can't say the same for some of the Namsie Pansies, I've seen on T.V. lately, what a breed of pale faced looking weaklings, I can't recall the name of this Bloke but, here it was , Pink hair, false eyelashes all the Female gear on , strutting around the stage as though it had sat on a Bull Ants nest.

"Yep" I give up, bring back compulsory National Service !!!

K.J.

macka17 · Guru

NO KJ.

Just a well built, Cat 3 spec's by a good builder in QLD.
They ALL supposed to be built to those spec's.
Some of the builders aren't so "conscientious",
Shall we say.
But none give troubles anymore.
apart from flooding when low lying and power outs.

People that build on run offs and low lying land up here have rocks in their heads.
Pay a little more and get it UP a bit.
You'll save the extras paid, on first wet with the damage costs saved.

And, if you going timber "Queenslanders".

There are dealers around with them for sale in paddocks.

Pick a "Hardwood" one. NOT PINE...

refurbish
einforce it while there.

Truck it out to your block. and mount\strap it onto the posts

you'd preinstalled prior.

Up on posts with clear water\wind flow all round.

all it does is clean out rubbish under. and cobwebs from interior.

They sway a bit though. Spent a Cyclone in a mates back in '70's.

Looking for the reins at one time. chuckle.

But still all there after wind
ain gone.

Just.. At ALL times. Stay out of direct blast of wind.