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Fire Extinguisher


Hi did a quick search and didn't find the answer....

Are new vans supplied with a fire extinguisher by law? or is it the norm to buy one after purchasing the van?

We will at the very minimum have 1 in the van, 1 in the car and a fire blanket in the van.

Just curious...

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Hi Brijacq, welcome to the forum I don't know if it's the law to fit them but our Retreat came with a fire extinguisher mounted in a cupboard.

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I understand it is law to have one. Minimum 1kg dry powder.
Be careful what you buy. Some are not approved for vehicle use despite saying that is what they are for on the packaging.
They must have a hose and a mounting system good for 10g.
I suggest it is installed near the door (on the way out). There are regulations describing the mounting position/height.

Possibly more useful but not required by law is a large (1.8m x 1.8m) fire blanket for cooking fires and people protection.

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Mine came with one under the seat of the lounge.

I installed another just by the entrance & one in the Patrol too.

Must get a fire blanket for the kitchen.

All so cheap too.



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Welcome to the gang Brijacq, enjoy here and out in the playground.

I think you will find it is law as it is with a smoke detector.



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If I bought another it would be foam. The Co2 are bulky. expensive and selective.

Powder seem to be the preferred choice for our job.
I have one in everything that rolls and floats
2 boats. 2 cars, and a caravan.

6x4 for garden rubbish can help itself.

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Specials at Aldis tomorrow (8/3) include an extinguisher ($15) and fire Blanket ($8). Possibly a good time to check these safety measures in our vans.

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I believe all new vans are to be equipped with a powder extinguisher and a smoke alarm. The reasoning is the smoke alarm wakes you up and you have to fight through the toxic fire fumes from all the plastic burning to where your fire extinguisher is by the front door at the other end of the caravan. Why don't caravans have two doors, just imagine the air flow from a sea breeze with two doors on a caravan! In Victoria, minimum is the smallest powder type extinguisher. Every two months, grab it out of your caravan, check the dial and give at least a dozen light taps with a hammer to get the powder moving and re-settle it. If the guage shows recharge, throw it in the bin and buy a new one.

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Lancelot Link wrote:

In Victoria, minimum is the smallest powder type extinguisher. Every two months, grab it out of your caravan, check the dial and give at least a dozen light taps with a hammer to get the powder moving and re-settle it. If the guage shows recharge, throw it in the bin and buy a new one.


Excellent advice.

And even more important to do this with home based powder extinguishers as they don't get the bumps and knocks which a caravan one will and which help to prevent the powder solidifying.

 



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I use a small rubber mallet to the same thing. Works better and no damage to metal, only I do it at the start of each month, a few taps and all ok. IMO.

I have 2 extinguishers for the van and 1 for the tug and they all get bashed, no favourite's with me.



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Back in the day, as a young man in a very small town, it was the task of the volunteer fire brigade, to replenish the fire extinguishers.
After removing the powder we would put it through a fine sieve, before replacing it
For whatever reason, there was sometimes hard caked powder which had to be thrown away

In an out of date fire extinguisher, there is always the chance that some of the dry powder has gone hard

(We can see what pressure we have, by looking at the gauge but we can not see the condition of the dry powder)

In a worst case scenario, if the caked dry powder blocks the tube or nozzle end while the extinguisher is being used, you will end with no more powder coming out
I am not sure, so I could be wrong, that hitting the fire extinguisher with a rubber mallet, would actually break up any caked powder, as the powder became fairly hard when it went into a cake form






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Tony Bev wrote:

Back in the day, as a young man in a very small town, it was the task of the volunteer fire brigade, to replenish the fire extinguishers.
After removing the powder we would put it through a fine sieve, before replacing it
For whatever reason, there was sometimes hard caked powder which had to be thrown away

In an out of date fire extinguisher, there is always the chance that some of the dry powder has gone hard

(We can see what pressure we have, by looking at the gauge but we can not see the condition of the dry powder)

In a worst case scenario, if the caked dry powder blocks the tube or nozzle end while the extinguisher is being used, you will end with no more powder coming out
I am not sure, so I could be wrong, that hitting the fire extinguisher with a rubber mallet, would actually break up any caked powder, as the powder became fairly hard when it went into a cake form





 Reminds me of my younger days in small country town. I had to check & refill all of my extinguishers on an annual basis.

There were several types including the brass CTC??? ones that were filled with a fluid that was very good as a dry cleaning fluid.  I think that they worked by twisting the handle & pumping out the fluid. Of course they were always empty.  Then there were the ones that you tipped upside down & gave them a good bump & directed the foam? to the fire until they ran out.  Couldn't turn them off.  But best of all were the CO2? ones that went WOOSH & sent out great clouds of CO2 when you pulled the trigger.  Great for chilling beer long necks & scaring the unwary.

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This thread reminded me to check my extinguishers in the van.  The original 19YO one was indicating 'refill' so I replaced it with one of those on sale at Aldi.



-- Edited by Cupie on Wednesday 8th of March 2017 08:07:11 PM



-- Edited by Cupie on Thursday 9th of March 2017 12:00:08 AM

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how long do they last?, got an Aldi from 2012 and the gauge still is in the green, not the money issue , but would be nice to know, thanks Craig

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most have powder units and located just inside the door on the side of the cupboards above the stove.

Great for use if you get an unexpected visitor at night. Take the unit down, pull the plastic pin lock out and let them have a face full - better then trying to swing a base ball bat or whatever

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Craig1 wrote:

how long do they last?, got an Aldi from 2012 and the gauge still is in the green, not the money issue , but would be nice to know, thanks Craig


 The 19YO one that I replaced today was just in the red ... meaning replace or refill.

I tried it out & it worked OK.  Moved slightly more into the red  ... perhaps another 5 degrees.



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I keep my old, replaced, extinguisher tucked away in the corner near the new wall mounted one on the basis that if I have failed to put the fire out with the new one I may as well give the old one a try.



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Mike Harding wrote:

I keep my old, replaced, extinguisher tucked away in the corner near the new wall mounted one on the basis that if I have failed to put the fire out with the new one I may as well give the old one a try.


 Good idea.  I'll find a spot for mine in the Patrol.



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Just got my hands on an Aldi 1 Kg (on special) fire extinguisher

It has a 5 year warranty, a tag you can punch a hole in the month year (just like the old time car batteries)

The bookwork Service Instructions say

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Maintain it in accordance Australian Standard AS1851

Every Six Months

  1. Check that the extinguisher has not been discharged
  2. Check the extinguisher for damage and corrosion
  3. Check operating pressure. Gauge pointer should be in the green zone
  4. Check that nozzle is not blocked
  5. Invert extinguisher to ensure that powder remains free flowing
  6. Check cylinder date stamp. If over 5 years old the cylinder requires a pressure test and refilling

NOTE: Where fire extinguisher is subject to constant vibration or extreme heat (eg in vehicles) more frequent checks are recommended
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Bruce and Bev wrote:

most have powder units and located just inside the door on the side of the cupboards above the stove.

Great for use if you get an unexpected visitor at night. Take the unit down, pull the plastic pin lock out and let them have a face full - better then trying to swing a base ball bat or whatever


I would be just a little bit careful about doing this

The expanding gas, can freeze the eyeball, plus the inert gas and powder are supposed to be able to stop the oxygen getting to the fire, which I assume would be the same for that persons airway

biggrin I suppose you can always say that you thought that you heard someone shout fire, pulled the pin, slipped on the step, and grabbed the fire extinguisher handle foe support biggrin



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So, after 5 years just buy a new one to comply with Standards, as they range between $15 and $30. Cost of test/refill would be more than that. Thanks all.

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Craig1 wrote:

So, after 5 years just buy a new one to comply with Standards, as they range between $15 and $30. Cost of test/refill would be more than that. Thanks all.


 I asked at the local fire station about checking and it was suggested I need a stiff drink and pointed me to the pub across the road, I am not one to argue, met a mate and stayed for an hour or so, purchased a new fire extinguisher on the way home!



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