Census site has crashed

meetoo · Guru

Census site has crashed

Cupie · Guru

Ha Ha ... Did mine on Sunday .... & included name and address .. a great fuss about nothing.

Edit .. Who knows what part of the net crashed .... may have been your ISPs bit (that's a technical term)

-- Edited by Cupie on Tuesday 9th of August 2016 07:23:39 PM

Weedpharma · Veteran Member

Just finished without any problem.

Weedpharma

meetoo · Guru

Yeah Cupie, I beat the rush and did mine a few days ago too.

Cheers, John

macka17 · Guru

We just sent off for the paper one.
sat round table tonight at dinner and Di filled it in
Post in morning.

No Cyber access to anything of ours thank you.

Bushpie · Guru

I did the paper one that they delivered.......give em something to do

And yes such a big fuss about nothing cannot figure some ppl out

Happy to do it

kandagal · Guru

I just finished submitting my form OK

brickies · Guru

Australian sport hoping thing fail

Bas + Eve · Senior Member

Census or Senseless??

Bruce and Bev · Guru

we staying at friends place and they haven't had their forms posted to them - we found out today. So we wont be doing the Census tonight and wont be fined as we didn't "deliberately" fail or avoid the Census.

Interesting thing is they have already employed "Field Workers" to do the traditional job of door knockers, but they aren't advertising that fact as they hope the majority will do on-line or paper returns.

Ive taken a job as one of their Field Workers - it took them almost 8 weeks to do the various checks on these casual staff that was supposed to only take 2 weeks.

They have put back our training until mid-late August and you wont get door knocked until late Augest and right to the end of September.

Guess I can do my own return then lol

cjt55 · Senior Member

We gave up trying to ring to tell them we have not been home for months. logged onto the website and sent them a message 2 weeks ago telling them I am traveling and requested our login details......... got a reference number but still have not had a reply. Fair dinkum ....... I wouldn't "p...." on a politician at the moment.

Grumpytoo · Senior Member

We haven't been home since April. At the last census we were at Lake Elphinstone and a Census Collector called, left the form and returned to collect it. This time we are in a CP in Victoria. Went to the office this morning, picked up the form, filled it in and left it for collection. So much easier than trying to get an on line number etc.

JackieP · Senior Member

i just found this info about census....

MYTH: I HAVE TO FILL THE CENSUS FORM IN ON CENSUS DAY
FACT: Believe it or not, the aim of the Census is not to fine people, it is to establish the most comprehensive database of the Australian population possible. Hence why the ABS likes to get as close to a 100 per cent completion rate as it can.
This means you have until September 23 yes, six weeks after Census night to get it done.

dorian · Guru

It's from a Murdoch web site, but FWIW ...

http://www.news.com.au/finance/census-australia-2016-will-we-have-to-cancel-christmas-myths-and-facts-explained/news-story/44cca5019db2f77cbf1177250ea527b4

-- Edited by dorian on Wednesday 10th of August 2016 05:47:07 AM

Dickodownunder · Guru

I just attempted to log on again this morning and I am still getting that dreaded "wheel of death" followed by the message that the site is unavailable and to try again.

I wonder if it will be fixed by lunchtime?

rockylizard · Guru

Gday...

The Census site did NOT "crash" ... it was taken offline due to "overseas hackers".

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-10/australian-bureau-of-statistics-says-census-website-hacked/7712216

Cheers - John

-- Edited by rockylizard on Wednesday 10th of August 2016 08:02:32 AM

BaupleNut · Senior Member

rockylizard wrote:
Gday...
The Census site did NOT "crash" ... it was taken offline due to "overseas hackers".
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-10/australian-bureau-of-statistics-says-census-website-hacked/7712216
Cheers - John

-- Edited by rockylizard on Wednesday 10th of August 2016 08:02:32 AM

Dur, I think that's still classed as a crash rocky. doh

-- Edited by BaupleNut on Wednesday 10th of August 2016 08:12:26 AM

rockylizard · Guru

BaupleNut wrote:
rockylizard wrote:
Gday...
The Census site did NOT "crash" ... it was taken offline due to "overseas hackers".
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-10/australian-bureau-of-statistics-says-census-website-hacked/7712216
Cheers - John
Dur, I think that's still classed as a crash rocky.

Gday...

I guess it is up to how one wishes to express ones view on things .... when it is taken down - removed move the internet - due to 'hackers' ... one would think that is not a "crash".

Census 01.JPG

Cheers - John

macka17 · Guru

With the levels of technology nowadays and the highly "intelligent???" people trying to do the wrong thing.

Why the hell did they go from paper.
Everybody I know incl, us did.
They still use paper, fairly accurately for voting our politicians in.

They.. Whoever. KNEW all the creeps would come out of the woodwork to hack it.

OH. I wonder if all these recent "imports" are included in this census?.
Or are they above that too, along with the law.

This ain't going to prove nothing,
other than a very expensive case of Confusion unfortunately.
We may see a sudden rush on paper mills shortly hey.

Dougwe · Chief one feather

I was 'off the grid' for last night in inland QLD sort off. As I did know where I would be last night, a rest area on the side of the road, I did the Census on-line Saturday morning. The only thing I had a small problem with was the actual address and post code. I was told by the lady when I checked up on all this to put in the road name and co-ordinates if known. So to get around the small problem I put a zero in street number, the road and co-ordinates that I looked up Google maps for and zeros in postcode, as I didn't think there would be any Internet cover last night. All went smooth from then on and took about 15 minutes.

The only thing I reckon and said so at the end survey was, there is no provision to say you actually live and travel in a caravan or similar and may not be in a well known area on the night of the Census, so the address given as my residential/postal is not really accurate. Oh well, I did my bit as best I could, time will tell now.

The Census is no drama doing IMO as Big Brother knows enough about us anyway. Hackers will always be around and we live and hope all will be OK.

Back in Townsville again for a while longer.

Vince · Senior Member

Dougwe wrote:
The only thing I reckon and said so at the end survey was, there is no provision to say you actually live and travel in a caravan or similar and may not be in a well known area on the night of the Census, so the address given as my residential/postal is not really accurate. Oh well, I did my bit as best I could, time will tell now.

I think that's an interesting that the census has not asked within the questions about living & traveling in a Caravan or any mode for that matter as

it is stated by ABS that the information gathered helps with infrastructure education health etc.

Maybe some information about how many live permanent on the road could lead to some improved facilities like dump points, rest stops just to say a few.

Cheers

Vince

Cupie · Guru

Vince wrote:
Dougwe wrote:
The only thing I reckon and said so at the end survey was, there is no provision to say you actually live and travel in a caravan or similar and may not be in a well known area on the night of the Census, so the address given as my residential/postal is not really accurate. Oh well, I did my bit as best I could, time will tell now.

I think that's an interesting that the census has not asked within the questions about living & traveling in a Caravan or any mode for that matter as
it is stated by ABS that the information gathered helps with infrastructure education health etc.
Maybe some information about how many live permanent on the road could lead to some improved facilities like dump points, rest stops just to say a few.
Cheers
Vince

Perhaps. If the we all filled it in correctly.

meetoo · Guru

Well at the end of the day, in my view, no matter why or who shut down the census site, it was not operating as it should have. I imagine the government have the dollars and expertise to make this important (to them) event go properly. But they failed miserably. We who have no choice but to forcibly do as we are told deserve better.

Cheers John

Treecrest14 · Senior Member

Denial of Service is what occurred with ABS/census. ie the 'baddies' setup a computer system which bombards the website with access requests and it justs grinds the system to a halt. Businesses have to put with this sort of attack all the time, and it was just a golden opportunity for some group to get their moment of glory! I imagine that will be the end of the idea of having the national elections online!
The system worked fine for me and it took less than 10 minutes.

kiwijims · Guru

Census: "What a joke" Michael McCormack targeted in 'hacking' after defending ABS website failure,

An errant link labelled "gay sex" was spotted on Mr McCormack's official website this afternoon.

It hyperlinked to what appeared to be a Polish finance company's website.

It sure makes me wonder ,How secure is my Personal information ???

K.J.

-- Edited by kiwijims on Wednesday 10th of August 2016 06:30:38 PM

BaupleNut · Senior Member

rockylizard wrote:
BaupleNut wrote:
rockylizard wrote:
Gday...
The Census site did NOT "crash" ... it was taken offline due to "overseas hackers".
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-10/australian-bureau-of-statistics-says-census-website-hacked/7712216
Cheers - John
Dur, I think that's still classed as a crash rocky.
Gday...
I guess it is up to how one wishes to express ones view on things .... when it is taken down - removed move the internet - due to 'hackers' ... one would think that is not a "crash".
Cheers - John

There you go rocky that's what happens when you believe everything you hear, you end up with egg all over the place.

Dunmowin · Guru

As we drove up the Stuart Highway, I began to worry/panic about not being counted. Not to worry, we set up camp at KarluKarlu, and were greeted by the merry census people in green. We have been counted as grey nomads at Devils Marbles.

meetoo · Guru

Dunmowin wrote:
As we drove up the Stuart Highway, I began to worry/panic about not being counted. Not to worry, we set up camp at KarluKarlu, and were greeted by the merry census people in green. We have been counted as grey nomads at Devils Marbles.

Haha Dunmowin, I had a chuckle at that. smile

Glad you've been counted, lol.

Cheers, John.

Bruce and Bev · Guru

If you believe the Boss of the ABS who gets paid almost $750,000 a year for having totally hashed this years Census, their site was hacked. - he clearly said this on the early TV news Wednesday morning. Then a few hours later, and in full damage control, the Federal Minister for Small Business (who is the politician in charge of the ABS) said it wasn't hacked - it was caused by the system being overloaded by too many inward comms at once to their Servers - and they came from overseas. He was totally unconvincing in his TV appearances and couldn't even pull off genuine sounding and looking politicians lying as the more high profile pollies can sometimes do. Even the PM attempting to convince us that all was well and we should put our heads back in the sand was unconvincing.

dorian · Guru

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack

A distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack occurs when multiple systems flood the bandwidth or resources of a targeted system, usually one or more web servers. Such an attack is often the result of multiple compromised systems (for example a botnet) flooding the targeted system with traffic.

For example, an attacker could use a group of hacked robot computers to target the ABS server with millions of "pings". A ping is basically a "hello, are you there?" data packet. In fact you can issue them yourself.

C:\>ping abs.gov.au

Pinging abs.gov.au [144.53.228.30] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 144.53.228.30:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum =  0ms, Average =  0ms