Pocket knives banned in Tasmania!

Loki · Senior Member

Pocket knives banned in Tasmania!

brickies · Guru

Sounds like a good move

Roving-Dutchy · Guru

How about all those large knives in your van or motorhome.
Just another case of our Governments becoming dictatorships and turning everyday citizens into criminals.
Cheers
David

brickies · Guru

Bit of a knee jerk , Your caravan or motor home is your home I don't believe they are the target .

goldfinger · Senior Member

Same in Victoria...a girl got fined $1000 for having a Kmart Box cutter in her haversack on her way to work at Kmart...absurd if the plods want to get pedantic...a fishing knife in your car in Victoria is classed as carry and carries a $1000 fine...if you have a penknife on your car ring and enter Licenced premises you are liable to $2000 fine...

When I rolled my Landrover and was hanging upside down by my seat belt almost suffocating ,it was only my small pocket knife in my pocket that enabled me to cut the seat belt to release the pressure...they can go to hell if they think I will not continue to carry a small pocket knife in my pocket whilst travelling....I'll risk their $1000 fine or at least fight it in Court..
The irony of knives and supposed control of dangerous blade weapons is that the majority of murders in Australia are carried out by the not so humble kitchen knife because its available ..or a cheap throw away $4 Kmart special....

I've seen Grey Nomads buy knife sets at the Lifestyle shows and then hop on public transport with them obvlivious to the fact if a pedantic plod wants to he can fine them $2000 for knife carry in a Public place..heaven fporbid if they stopped to have a meal in a Pub on the way home still carrying them......a knife is an inanimate object..it has no mind of its own....its the miscreant who carries one that should be controlled.....knives are a vote catcher for Politicians to appear to care about Law and Order issues....because its easier than taking action against the miscreants...ban all kitchen knives if they wish to be consistant as they are used in about 90% of all murders.....why are the Police not surprised when a robbery is carried out with someone using a hand gun...aren't they banned....are they not supposed to exist now in the Community or is it only the miscreants that actually have them now..my thoughts anyway...Hoo Roo

-- Edited by goldfinger on Tuesday 12th of July 2016 12:20:56 PM

Cadpete · Guru

Having actually read the info in the link it quite clearly states that carrying knives from a shop to home is a lawful use so no fine possible there, although if you took it out of the package I wonder if that would open up a possible problem.

Also having a set of knives in a caravan is obviously a lawful reason to have a knife so no problems there.

The scenario that goldfinger notes - using the knife for safety is, from my interpretation, however not lawful cry - go figure. I would hope that reason would prevail though. I guess their argument is you should have a custom seatbelt cutter ($$).

As usual another 'knee-jerk' reaction from pollies and law makers without thinking out the full consequences of the modified law.

Onedodger · Guru

Same law here in the Nanny State NSW. confuse

JayDee · Guru

What the hell is this country coming to???.
Next thing they in introduce a law preventing little old ladies from carrying a hand bag.
God help the official who tries to take my wife hand bag. He would be a braver man then I.
Why,........ when I ask her where the car keys are and she says in my hand bag. I refuse to place my hand in there, as it is a mine field.

Are we becoming to pedantic re security and other related matters????
This country has bigger problems than a person carrying a pocket knife.
Which we have had the freedom to do so since the pocket knife was invented.
I just shake my head.
Jay&Dee.

hako · Guru

Up here they use screwdrivers, gardening trowels, star pickets, spray cans of oven cleaner, syringes filled with red stuff, busted longnecks, hammers, hatchets, axes, shovels, keys or anything handy in the near vicinity of where they want some cash. No need for a knife.
What about a cut throat razor...if it's in your toiletry bag then that would be lawful? How about a nailfile.
Bottom line is that it is up to the police officer concerned and I really do not think they'd strip search 'ordinary' people on the pretext they may have a pen knife.
By the way I always carry a pen knife on my belt....never had a problem. Still legal in Qld AFAIK.

Good Luck

Ron-D · Guru

God Bless Australia imagine being in America where any maniac can buy a machine gun over the counter..

Desert Dweller · Senior Member

A little like not being able to take a pair of nail clippers in your ''carry on luggage'' on a plane. Carrying a potentially lethal weapon.

Have they banned cork screws which we carry in our glove box just in case we strike a non-screw cap bottle of wine.

Hang on! Maybe the cork screw could come in handy for the ''shiny bums'' that think up this type of rubbish.

Eaglemax · Guru

Jaydee said "Preventing little old ladies from carrying a handbag" Shouldn't that comment now include "large old hairy men carrying handbags"? Political correctness. .another stupid direction our great country is heading ..

rockylizard · Guru

Gday...

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OI ........ Wot's rong wif me handbag ? ? ? ?

Cheers - John

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

Basically a concealed weapon as if your carrying a gun . If you have a knife for fishing in a box ? Or knife for dagging sheep etc . All is fine . But I doubt you'll be in cbd with a knife for this use ?? Even a Kiwi .. Lol

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

Btw we carried a knife as lineworker . Thinking back the supplied knives where NOT pointed .

goldfinger · Senior Member

Remember when our beloved Mick Dundee used his Bowie knife for shaving.....I wonder if the Courts would buy that excuse....? Hoo Roo crocodile-dundee being Politically Incorrect...png

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

That's not a knife ..

Wizardofoz · Guru

goldfinger wrote:
Same in Victoria...a girl got fined $1000 for having a Kmart Box cutter in her haversack on her way to work at Kmart...absurd if the plods want to get pedantic...a fishing knife in your car in Victoria is classed as carry and carries a $1000 fine...if you have a penknife on your car ring and enter Licenced premises you are liable to $2000 fine...

When I rolled my Landrover and was hanging upside down by my seat belt almost suffocating ,it was only my small pocket knife in my pocket that enabled me to cut the seat belt to release the pressure...they can go to hell if they think I will not continue to carry a small pocket knife in my pocket whilst travelling....I'll risk their $1000 fine or at least fight it in Court..
The irony of knives and supposed control of dangerous blade weapons is that the majority of murders in Australia are carried out by the not so humble kitchen knife because its available ..or a cheap throw away $4 Kmart special....

I've seen Grey Nomads buy knife sets at the Lifestyle shows and then hop on public transport with them obvlivious to the fact if a pedantic plod wants to he can fine them $2000 for knife carry in a Public place..heaven fporbid if they stopped to have a meal in a Pub on the way home still carrying them......a knife is an inanimate object..it has no mind of its own....its the miscreant who carries one that should be controlled.....knives are a vote catcher for Politicians to appear to care about Law and Order issues....because its easier than taking action against the miscreants...ban all kitchen knives if they wish to be consistant as they are used in about 90% of all murders.....why are the Police not surprised when a robbery is carried out with someone using a hand gun...aren't they banned....are they not supposed to exist now in the Community or is it only the miscreants that actually have them now..my thoughts anyway...Hoo Roo

-- Edited by goldfinger on Tuesday 12th of July 2016 12:20:56 PM
I totally agree with you Goldfinger, that is just commonsense and it appears to have gone out the window with governments of late.

Bruce and Bev · Guru

a real problem.........so many people are being stabbed with knives in the past couple of years.

I would hope the police would use a common sense approach to enforcement. A young guy carrying and flick knife into a night club or pub intends it to be a weapon. A girl carrying a box knife to work for work purposes is not.

If the police cant apply common sense, then the Courts will.

sandsmere · Guru

Looks like I will be breaking the law on a regular basis then.

Ah Well! Such is life.

Big Gorilla · Guru

sandsmere wrote:
Looks like I will be breaking the law on a regular basis then.
Ah Well! Such is life.

I agree with Goldfinger also. I do break the law, carrying a large hunting knife and a pocket knife also.

NeilandRaine · Guru

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Would not like to think how many farmers wear these without thinking about it. Even when not working on the farm

brickies · Guru

Farmer have guns also but don't walk around town carrying their guns , At lest our pollys are smarter than the one in the USA , And I sure know were I would like to live , Maybe I not a real aussie .

Mutley · Senior Member

goldfinger wrote:
Same in Victoria...a girl got fined $1000 for having a Kmart Box cutter in her haversack on her way to work at Kmart...absurd if the plods want to get pedantic...a fishing knife in your car in Victoria is classed as carry and carries a $1000 fine...if you have a penknife on your car ring and enter Licenced premises you are liable to $2000 fine...

When I rolled my Landrover and was hanging upside down by my seat belt almost suffocating ,it was only my small pocket knife in my pocket that enabled me to cut the seat belt to release the pressure...they can go to hell if they think I will not continue to carry a small pocket knife in my pocket whilst travelling....I'll risk their $1000 fine or at least fight it in Court..
The irony of knives and supposed control of dangerous blade weapons is that the majority of murders in Australia are carried out by the not so humble kitchen knife because its available ..or a cheap throw away $4 Kmart special....

I've seen Grey Nomads buy knife sets at the Lifestyle shows and then hop on public transport with them obvlivious to the fact if a pedantic plod wants to he can fine them $2000 for knife carry in a Public place..heaven fporbid if they stopped to have a meal in a Pub on the way home still carrying them......a knife is an inanimate object..it has no mind of its own....its the miscreant who carries one that should be controlled.....knives are a vote catcher for Politicians to appear to care about Law and Order issues....because its easier than taking action against the miscreants...ban all kitchen knives if they wish to be consistant as they are used in about 90% of all murders.....why are the Police not surprised when a robbery is carried out with someone using a hand gun...aren't they banned....are they not supposed to exist now in the Community or is it only the miscreants that actually have them now..my thoughts anyway...Hoo Roo

-- Edited by goldfinger on Tuesday 12th of July 2016 12:20:56 PM

No! If you're licenced & its registered, you can lawfully own hand guns.

george57 · Senior Member

In Victoria it is an offence under the Summary Offences Act to carry an "offensive" weapon. Some are classed as offensive per se such as knuckle dusters and flick knives....otherwise it is up to constable plod to prove to the court that it is intended to be used as an offensive weapon....hence Mick Dundee would be in trouble whereas factory worker Guiseppe with a couple of apples and a peeling knife in his bag going to work would certainly be excused
The court has to look at the circumstances and apparent intent before it can be deemed offensive....

Re Tasmanian law you would have to read the statue of parliament to understand the intended nature of the legislation....but you will find that they vary little from state to state.

Hope this may alleviate some concerns.

Cheers
George

-- Edited by george57 on Wednesday 13th of July 2016 09:58:24 AM

elliemike · Guru

Knife Laws Education

An amendment to the Police Offences Act 1935 comes into effect this week, clarifying provisions that ban carrying knives in public places unless there is a lawful purpose.

The amendment enhances the original intent of the legislation, by allowing police to proactively remove knives from people in public places who dont have a lawful reason to have them.

Knives are the most common weapon used in crimes in Tasmania, and this change aims to ensure our public places remain safe and secure.

The change is intended to improve public safety by removing knives from public places before they can be used to hurt people.

People undertaking lawful activities that require use of a knife wont be affected. For example, a tradesman who uses a knife in their work will be able to carry it on their way to and from work, and while they are working. Similarly, recreational activities will also be exempt. Eg people going fishing, camping or hunting can possess a knife for those purposes

However people who regularly carry a knife, including a pocket knife or multi-tool, can no longer do so in a public place, unless pursuing a specific lawful activity for which the knife is required.

Why is the law changing?

The change is an enhancement to existing provisions, clarifying that a knife is a dangerous article and cant be carried in a public place without a lawful excuse. In Tasmania there are around 140 offences a year committed against people involving knives much higher than any other type of weapon, and far exceeding offences against people involving firearms. This equates to nearly 3 offences a week, including assaults, robberies, sexual assaults, and murder. Even where people dont intend to use knives against others, their availability when conflict occurs can see individuals resort to them, or have knives used against them. This is especially true in circumstances where people are affected by alcohol or other drugs.

-- Edited by elliemike on Wednesday 13th of July 2016 10:15:29 AM

Cupie · Guru

I carry a multi tool in all of my vehicles & sometimes add one to my belt. As well, my town car's keyring has my antique pen knife with its 1" blades.

But then perhaps the one in the Patrol is OK when I am towing the van ... exempt as I am 'going camping' I suppose.

I have a couple of knives in my picnic basket & portable BBQ kit too. Usually in the back of the Patrol. Again for 'going camping', so exempt.

I don't think that I will change.

Attached is a shot of a GN with a replica of Goldfinger's 'That's a Knife' , taken at the Walkabout Creek Pub.

Ole Grizzly · Senior Member

BUT......

Sikhs and the Kirpan

The amended law provides that religious observance is a lawful excuse for possession and carriage of knives, and consequently the carriage of the Kirpan by practicing Sikhs is not affected.

goldfinger · Senior Member

....plus Mick needed his Bowie to defend himself from dangerous lurking creatures in the donga.....I believe he did succumb........a hunters' Crocodile Dundee...png needs are many fold.....Hoo Roo

Hylda&Jon · Guru

Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Basically a concealed weapon as if your carrying a gun . If you have a knife for fishing in a box ? Or knife for dagging sheep etc . All is fine . But I doubt you'll be in cbd with a knife for this use ?? Even a Kiwi .. Lol

When I worked in the city I always had a Swiss army knife in my pocket. Soo many uses...bottle opener, can opener, cork screw, screw drivers, magnifying glass and tweasers for splinters, nail file...need I go on?