KFT wrote:

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Tony Bev Wrote "I can also visualise a local Ranger, carrying out his duties, and booking them all at 5 am the next morning."

With respect to the Pacific hwy in NSW the rest areas are all under the control of NSWRMS so a council ranger would have no jurisdiction and with a copy of the reply from NSWRMS giving permission to rest overnight I would think any ranger would be foolish to pursue the matter. IMHO

 

Frank

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Hello KFT

Thanks for that information Frank, I do appreciate you clearing up, my somewhat less than clear vision on the subject

This is now becoming much clearer to me, when I separate the Pacific Hwy, from the East Coast seaside areas

I have now interpretated the subject (I could be wrong), in this simple manner.

Pacific Hwy which is controlled by the NSW RMS (much like our WA MRD) will allow overnight resting, for one night only, in a day rest area, with No Camping signs erected. As per your reply from them

Reading between the lines, the NSWRMS is saying that if you are fatigued, then by all means use our No Camping rest stops, to revive yourself, but we will leave the No Camping signs errected, to discourage those travellers who would like to use the rest areas for longer periods, such as camping

Also

Leaving the Pacific Hwy, and overnight stopping at day rest areas close to the seaside, or in built up areas, which are controlled by the local councils, will be blatantly flouting the council rules, which are enforceable by the local Rangers.

There is always the 50% chance that I am wrong

Aus-Kiwi wrote:

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How does the ranger know you've been camping ?

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Hello Aus-Kiwi

In 2014 I stayed overnight at Mother of Ducks Lagoon, on the perimeter of Guyra in NSW. It was recommended to me by seasoned travellers, on the road. I was also informed that the 24 hour rule was enforced by the Ranger who came around mid morning and evening, and wrote down the number plates in his notebook. I assume that other Rangers, in other built up places, would have a similar system.

Slightly off topic, but I can highly recommend an overnight stop at Guyra, the locals at that time had already lost their hardware store, through lack of patronage. What I saved by avoiding their caravan park, was spent in their shops

Tony Bev wrote:

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Aus-Kiwi wrote:

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How does the ranger know you've been camping ?

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Hello Aus-Kiwi

In 2014 I stayed overnight at Mother of Ducks Lagoon, on the perimeter of Guyra in NSW. It was recommended to me by seasoned travellers, on the road. I was also informed that the 24 hour rule was enforced by the Ranger who came around mid morning and evening, and wrote down the number plates in his notebook. I assume that other Rangers, in other built up places, would have a similar system.

Slightly off topic, but I can highly recommend an overnight stop at Guyra, the locals at that time had already lost their hardware store, through lack of patronage. What I saved by avoiding their caravan park, was spent in their shops

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Yes but the system is often "corrupted" by some (rangers and others including some on this forum) whereby they "arrange" when the ranger will next reappear. THE AIM is to overstay the allotted time. We gave up in QLD beach areas near Townsville in QLD in 2013 after we found out what was happening.

How do I know - I wanted to get in and a mate was ahead and relaying if spaces available etc and the ranger told him straight up the "arrangement".