Tap Water at CV Parks

Vince · Senior Member

Tap Water at CV Parks

deverall11 · Guru

Vince, is the water leaking from the connector itself or the tap? If the tap, we always carry a roll of teflon tape. Put a little bit on the thread and screw your hose in place. If the connector, just fiddle with it. If it leaks there, it would leak at home also.

Bassett52 · Veteran Member

Try one of these www.hoselink.com.au/buy/tap-to-hose-connector-set/2310 . I have been using them for a while now and no problems and worth the extra cost.
Regards
Bassett52

Vince · Senior Member

deverall11 wrote:
Vince, is the water leaking from the connector itself or the tap? If the tap, we always carry a roll of teflon tape. Put a little bit on the thread and screw your hose in place. If the connector, just fiddle with it. If it leaks there, it would leak at home also.

It's leaking from the connector and I replaced the O ring but that didn't fix it...bought a new 3/4 tap fitting and still get it dripping. No leak from the tap, only at the van end

I'm just worried that if we go away and the connection leaks badly at places where water is scares

Currently we are turning the tap off but wondering what other members might do or have

Vince · Senior Member

Bassett52 wrote:
Try one of these www.hoselink.com.au/buy/tap-to-hose-connector-set/2310 . I have been using them for a while now and no problems and worth the extra cost.
Regards
Bassett52

Thanks Basset52

I have the hoselink system at home and it's the best ever on the market.

We have a hard nylex type and soft type hoses we use with the van and couldn't get them to fit into the fitting properly.

Is there a type of hose to use specifically?

At home we just use ordinary garden hose not good for drinking out of though

Casualkev · Senior Member

Vince not trying to be a smart a**e, but the 'O'rings must be the right size as in thickness as well as diameter otherwise they will still leak & maybe try a bit of 'O' ring grease a bit stickier then vasoline.

Kev

ballast2 · Guru

G'day. Just a thought. could it be the fitting on the hose (not the tap) is the problem? Found it once on mine. Replaced push on hose fitting problem fixed.
Cheers

brickies · Guru

The Teflon tap is the way to go , The problem is the the tread on the tap get a lot of use in caravan parks and wear the tread out so the teflon tape take up for the wear

Vince · Senior Member

Casualkev wrote:
Vince not trying to be a smart a**e, but the 'O'rings must be the right size as in thickness as well as diameter otherwise they will still leak & maybe try a bit of 'O' ring grease a bit stickier then vasoline.

Kev

No worries Kev, I got the right size O rings and will try the grease idea. Thanks

Baz421 · Guru

Sorry to have a contra opinion BUT Teflon tape is NOT the way to go,,, it only stuffs the tap when we come along after you and try to use the tap.

We have to take the Teflon tape off or it splits our fittings. Ask around.

Leaks are either:

1 at the tap - internal washer

2 at the tap - incorrect or worn out o ring

3 poor quality fittings from the $1 shop - you know the green ones etc as they are slightly different sizes

4 at the van - poor seal with connector to van fitting or o ring or poor quality fittings.

The O rings you buy in the $1 shop are often of a lesser (cross sectional) diameter (not the outer diameter) than those you buy in packs at Bunnings, so they leak.

The cheap $1 fittings are often larger diameter internal bore size and therefore don't seal at the o ring EVEN if you have right o ring.

SOLUTION.

Buy a good set of fittings.

Onedodger · Guru

Baz421 wrote:
Sorry to have a contra opinion BUT Teflon tape is NOT the way to go,,, it only stuffs the tap when we come along after you and try to use the tap.
We have to take the Teflon tape off or it splits our fittings. Ask around.
Leaks are either:
1 at the tap - internal washer
2   at the tap - incorrect or worn out o ring
3   poor quality fittings from the $1 shop - you know the green ones etc as they are slightly different sizes
4   at the van   -   poor seal with connector to van fitting or o ring or poor quality fittings.
The O rings you buy in the $1 shop are often of a lesser (cross sectional) diameter (not the outer diameter) than those you buy in packs at Bunnings, so they leak.
The cheap $1 fittings are often larger diameter internal bore size and therefore don't seal at the o ring EVEN if you have right o ring.
SOLUTION.
Buy a good set of fittings.

Totally agree with the above. Good quality fittings are a must.

However the easiest way is to turn the tap of when absent.

johnno48 · Veteran Member

Hoselink is great

blaze · Guru

only use brass fittings, plastic are hopeless on hot days
cheers
blaze

Geeco · Senior Member

Another vote for hoselink. I have them on all hose fittings for our motorhome including both ends of the inline filter. We use food grade water hose we purchased from Masters and have never had a leak with that combination. I have noticed on a lot of caravan parks that the o'ring in the handle shaft often leaks. A gentle tap on the top of the handle usually helps to reveal it.
Cheers,
Gary C.

-- Edited by Geeco on Friday 5th of February 2016 05:49:03 PM

littledick · Senior Member

Baz421 wrote:
Sorry to have a contra opinion BUT Teflon tape is NOT the way to go,,, it only stuffs the tap when we come along after you and try to use the tap.
We have to take the Teflon tape off or it splits our fittings. Ask around.
Leaks are either:
1 at the tap - internal washer
2   at the tap - incorrect or worn out o ring
3   poor quality fittings from the $1 shop - you know the green ones etc as they are slightly different sizes
4   at the van   -   poor seal with connector to van fitting or o ring or poor quality fittings.
The O rings you buy in the $1 shop are often of a lesser (cross sectional) diameter (not the outer diameter) than those you buy in packs at Bunnings, so they leak.
The cheap $1 fittings are often larger diameter internal bore size and therefore don't seal at the o ring EVEN if you have right o ring.
SOLUTION.
Buy a good set of fittings.

Totally agree, tape on taps not recommended. Buy good fittings. wink

Dick.

Dav4Cris · Senior Member

The question was re water leak at van not at the tap end. If tap end then get better fittings as you should not need thread tape as the washer in the tape fitting should stop all water leaks at tap unless it is leaking via spindle. At van I have found that you need good quality fitting like Hoselink or the Toro fittings from Bunnings, $13.00 a fitting. I had same problem, replaced oring even wrapped a bit of teflon tape around the fitting still leaked, bit the bullet and bought the Toro fittings and leaks have stopped. I wont buy Hoselink because if you drop them they break the locking lug and then you have to buy a pair again, also there are heaps of Bunnings stores around Australia.

rockylizard · Guru

Vince wrote:
Bassett52 wrote:
Try one of these www.hoselink.com.au/buy/tap-to-hose-connector-set/2310 . I have been using them for a while now and no problems and worth the extra cost.
Regards
Bassett52
Thanks Basset52
I have the hoselink system at home and it's the best ever on the market.
We have a hard nylex type and soft type hoses we use with the van and couldn't get them to fit into the fitting properly.
Is there a type of hose to use specifically?
At home we just use ordinary garden hose not good for drinking out of though

Gday...

Another VERY satisfied user of Hoselink fittings. I have been using them for the past seven years with my van - the SAME set.

They NEVER leak and are definitely the best connection system I have used in my long (very long actually hmm ) life.

Vince, I use Hoselink fittings on the plain blue drinking water quality hose,

Hose 01.jpg

a blue 'hatch' drinking water quality hose

Hose 02.jpg

and on green ordinary garden hose that I use when just washing the car or van or for 'cleaning' stuff.

Hose 03.jpg

The hoselink fittings fit perfectly in all cases and the only problem I have had is removing a hoselink fitting to put it to a new piece of drinking quality hose. They are almost IMPOSSIBLE to remove from a hose.

Cheers - John

Cupie · Guru

blaze wrote:
only use brass fittings, plastic are hopeless on hot days
cheers
blaze

I'm a fan of Brass fittings too.

When I used to use plastic fittings I did encounter some that developed minor cracks around the flange leading to difficult to detect leakages prior to complete separation.

I also pinch "O" rings and the 'rubber' washers from my Plumber Son's tap repair box. This ensures good quality. I replace them all in my annual maintenance routine. I pinch a finger wipe of tap grease too. Spares & grease go into old 35mm film or pill containers.

In my plumbing spares box on the rear bumper behind the spare tyre, I carry all my plumbing connections and spares along with a pair of vice grips, long nose pliers & a multi screwdriver. I rarely use thread tape but carry some just in case I strike a worn thread.

The box keeps getting full of connections left on the taps by previous users, though I usually leave them for the next person. (not the brass ones though).

My advice is to go to Reece Plumbing supplies & get new brass connectors & some quality spares.

first timer · Senior Member

I vote for hoselink, they also do blue and white drinking water hoses as well. Well worth the money.
Ashley

Vince · Senior Member

Had another go at using spare hoselink fittings I had lying around and have success, I had to put the hose ends in hot water to soften and expand them to fit the coupling. ( another vote for youtube)

Connected it all up to water and no leaks

I have been using hoselink at home for about 7 years and they are a great product. (answer was staring at me right here)

I like brass fittings too but I feel that these fittings might be a culprit in wearing the thread on the taps where the plastics may not IMO.

Thanks to everyone that replied and help sort this dilemma out.

Cheers
Vince

-- Edited by Vince on Saturday 6th of February 2016 04:50:10 AM

Old Crofter · Senior Member

A number of connection points on vans and motorhomes are "camec" brand and from the USA buy the correct size fitting (not metric) and your leak problem solved.

Bob

ShortNorth · Senior Member

There is one common fault with all Avans - when built Avan only fit cheap plastic hose connectors to the mains water inlet - the problem is the plastic connector is Australian metric and the brass inlet it is screwed into is American imperial thread - Avan overcome the difference by wrapping heaps of white plumbers tape around the plastic thread. The problem is that over time the mains water pressure will find 'paths' through the white tape and then your water connection starts leaking, getting progressively worse over time.

Ours reached the point where we could not connect the mains water as the leakage was so severe. Solution - we got a 1 and 1/16^th inch American threaded brass connector (funnily enough, our local Avan agent had them in stock - maybe they knew all along the plastic connecters were garbage !) - no more leaks - problem solved.

I don't know why Avan simply don't fit the proper brass ones direct from the factory - for the sake of a couple of dollars, they are causing a van owners a problem, which generally only rears its ugly head after the van warranty runs out !!!

I guess this may also be a problem on other brands of van - check to see if your connector is plastic or brass !

Bevandy2 · Senior Member

Baz is on the money, but also, try backing the tap off a bit, some parks have enormous pressure, which you don't need, test it at the tap on the A frame and adjust to a nice steady flow, that might help.
I also prefer brass fittings. Make sure the hose is not under stress where it connects, ie, naturally hanging on the connection, they sometimes leak if bent against the natural angle of the hose. (if you get my meaning??)

Bevan

KevKim37 · Senior Member

The idea of turning the Tap off to Stop over pressure is False as all this does is Slow the Water Flow down not the Pressure. Even if turned to the nearly off position the Pressure is still the same as if it was fully on.
Also as a "Precaution all RV Owners" should Turn Mains Water Supplies Off when leaving their Rig for an Appreciable amount of Time.-
1. To Stop Internal Water Damage whilst Not in the RV.(Blown fittings/hoses)
2. To Stop excessive Water Wastage if and when the Inferior Hose Connectors Blow Off or the Hose Splits while away from the RV.
I Have seen quite a few vans and Motorhomes damaged from above problems except our own because of the Precautions taken above.

Cupie · Guru

KevKim37 wrote:
The idea of turning the Tap off to Stop over pressure is False as all this does is Slow the Water Flow down not the Pressure. Even if turned to the nearly off position the Pressure is still the same as if it was fully on.
Also as a "Precaution all RV Owners" should Turn Mains Water Supplies Off when leaving their Rig for an Appreciable amount of Time.-
1. To Stop Internal Water Damage whilst Not in the RV.(Blown fittings/hoses)
2. To Stop excessive Water Wastage if and when the Inferior Hose Connectors Blow Off or the Hose Splits while away from the RV.
I Have seen quite a few vans and Motorhomes damaged from above problems except our own because of the Precautions taken above.

I can recall an incident at one CP many years ago where the end blew off the hose overnight & the water pressure gouged out a great crater in the lawn. And I slept through it all!

Must have wasted a lot of water.

Cowboy7307 · Senior Member

www.hoselink.com.au/buy/tap-to-hose-connector-set/2310
can you only buy off line, or are thy available in stores

rockylizard · Guru

Gday...

They are only available online. [edit: but they also have a 1800 number for orders as well]

However, I have bought additional items over the past seven years and they will deliver to a 'physical' address so I have simply nominated the van park I am in at the time of delivery. They are usually received within a few days.

cheers - John

-- Edited by rockylizard on Sunday 7th of February 2016 11:20:46 AM

Cowboy7307 · Senior Member

Thanks rockylizard will order some later today

Ausmo · Member

Hoselink rocks, do yourself a favour and get some!

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greyhoundtom · Senior Member

There is no doubt that hoselink is the way to go, however if you are stuck as I have been where there is a minute drip at the point where your hose connects to that crappy white plastic connection fitted to the van, one way out is to temporarily remove the O ring off that fitting, then three wraps of Teflon plumbers tape at the spot where the O ring fits, and put the O ring back on.

Problem fixed.