Electronic rust protection

oldtrack123 · Guru

Electronic rust protection

Swoffer · Senior Member

Only surprise is it's taken this long to ban this con . Bleedin snake oil peddlers.

erad · Guru

The reference above talks about the device only working when it was submerged in a conductive fluid. Correct. I don't have one of these devices, and will not get one, but my point is that if there is no conductive fluid (water) present, the device will not work, and nor will corrosion take place. So maybe the device does work, but only when things get wet underneath the vehicle? I am pleased that a Government has acted to ban them though - at last we may be getting a govt with balls to actually do something good for a change.

-- Edited by erad on Thursday 26th of November 2015 08:41:16 PM

Jaahn · Guru

Yes great to see this con being acted on. smile

Next one is Pest Free plugin units. biggrin

Then those Hiclone crap things, probably popular on the vehicles here hmm

Jaahn

oldtrack123 · Guru

Jaahn wrote:
Yes great to see this con being acted on.
Next one is Pest Free plugin units.
Then those Hiclone crap things, probably popular on the vehicles here
Jaahn

And a double ditto biggrin

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

X'3 ..

hako · Guru

Dunno....my Territory had one since new - I bought it 4 years ago and it's now 9 years old, always left in the weather and never garaged yet has no rust. When it rains heavily the floors fill with water, the tailgate fills with water etc but no rust. Don't think I'd buy one but I would not write them off as totally useless.
Good Luck.

wasn_me · Guru

I haven't seen rust in any of my vehicles since the 75 hj kingswood. That was only minor. Prior to that was a different story. They must have started priming them a lot better in the 70's Cheers Pete

dorian · Guru

Some thoughts on the subject and an actual long-term test:

caravanandmotorhomebooks.com/retarding-rusting/

oldtrack123 · Guru

Hi Dorian

Yes, In those conditions that Collyn did his testing, they do work to some extent

They need a conductive surface such as salt laden moist air.

just like Collyn's situation on the coast near BROOME [hot humid salt laden air]

That how they tested them & "proved??" they worked

They put samples in a salt laden humid hot box for months biggrin

They are in no way comparable to the large commercial units that have been available for many years to protect large steel structures

-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Friday 27th of November 2015 10:12:00 AM

mr glassies · Guru

well i don't know and i don't really care how they work and prob get shot down on what I'm about to say . but i have had one on my old brumby and the drill swafs from were i drill the mount hole stayed shiny till i disconnected the batterie (about 36 mths ) and other rusty part never went any further . iv got 1 on my 2012 dolly and it has got a bare metal scratch 2 yrs old and its still shiny . i have also seen a surf club buggy with one on and the only place it was rusty was on the coils and covers on the shocks as they have rubber mounts on each end . the rest of the machine was in really good condition for its age . I'm sold

dibs

oldtrack123 · Guru

mr glassies wrote:
well i don't know and i don't really care how they work and prob get shot down on what I'm about to say . but i have had one on my old brumby and the drill swafs from were i drill the mount hole stayed shiny till i disconnected the batterie (about 36 mths ) and other rusty part never went any further . iv got 1 on my 2012 dolly and it has got a bare metal scratch 2 yrs old and its still shiny . i have also seen a surf club buggy with one on and the only place it was rusty was on the coils and covers on the shocks as they have rubber mounts on each end . the rest of the machine was in really good condition for its age . I'm sold

dibs

Hi Dibs

The simple fact is that they can only "work" if there is a conductive film on the metal surface,such as a dirty vehicle &/ 'or mineralised [salt laden] air

examples being mining, fishing.

In those situations they can give some protection, & that principle has been used for donkeys years in industry

I first became involved in 50s smile

But for the majority of car owners a good clean /polish& paint touch up any bare spots is a far better options

Does the manual with yours say to touchup/ paint bare spots ASAP?

MOST DO!!

The reason being too much bare metal close the pads, can shunt the few milliamps of current away from more distant areas from the pads, biggrin which will then have no so called protection.

They have been banned in the USA for years for the same reason as now in Aus , EXAGGERATED CLAIMS being pushed to the average car owner!

PeterQ

AusQld · Veteran Member

The points that should be made here are;

1; the manufactures have been told to stop manufacuring and marketing these devices.

2; The ACCC has ruled the device is NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE.

3; Amyone who has purchased a ERP simce 2013 is intitled to a full refund.

As a postscript a very large car dealer in Brisbane has stopped fitting all ERP's and is currently assessing their liablity regarding refunds, and given they sold these devise for $500.00 with a cost price of $150.00 this will indeed open a very large can of worms.

Regards Wayne