This looks like the box I bought from Big W last year, either 12 or 16 in the box. If so I already have them. A great buy.

The main problem was people putting oversize pots etc on the stoves, & this over heated the gas canister. Or not putting the trivet up the right way when using. People not reading the instructions that come with the stove. So I gues its easier to just ban the sale of them.

I agree with Daryl and Marj - its how you use it, not the product that's always at fault.

Im in Coober Peedy and theres about 6 shops that sell hardware/camping gear including the major servos and IGA. All of them have the single cooker brands that I seen banned in most other States. Don't know if theyre banned in SA as well - but obviously out in the country they apparently thumb their noses at these sort of withdrawal and banning notices

Main problem, as has been said, is too large a pot, forcing the flame/heat across to the canister which has been exploding.

Those canisters are only a glorified beer can under pressure, with no relief valve. So they explode when over heated.

Choice Online has an article on them also in this months news letter, based on NSW and SA banning them. choice.com.au March news letter.

Australia has safety standards for stuff like this, but too many company's are bringing in non compliant cheap imports from overseas, and of course we buy them because they are cheap, and even so they may be OK but pays to read the directions. If possible buy something that quotes Aust Standards on the stickers.

Our Gasmate is on the hit list too, so we are thinking we'll replace it with a compliant low pressure stove with a regulator that runs off a portable (Primus) gas cylinder.
Needs about a 2 metre hose so the gas bottle sits on the ground and the cooker on the table. (Outside only!)

Bevan

Happywanderer wrote:

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I thought it was the cooker at fault and not the canisters.
The double cookers are ok and use the same canisters as the single.
I've still got mine, will use it when I need to but not in the van.

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the cooker is at fault as it can heat up the canister when not used correctly

those CRV canister's have vents in the top of the can which release the pressure from the canister, to prevent an explosion  

the escaping gas will catch on fire , so you have a fire instead of an explosion

there are some  double cookers on the list not to use

-- Edited by Old Col on Friday 3rd of April 2015 12:26:50 PM

-- Edited by Old Col on Friday 3rd of April 2015 12:30:18 PM

How many times does the nature of the ban need to be explained. The ban had nothing to do with the use of the equipment but the retail sale of the equipment. If you already have one of these units and the associated gas cylinders there is no legal requirement to stop using it you just may find some difficulty in replacing the gas cylinders or buying new units. Consumers are not required to do anything.

Dave

D and D wrote:

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How many times does the nature of the ban need to be explained. The ban had nothing to do with the use of the equipment but the retail sale of the equipment. If you already have one of these units and the associated gas cylinders there is no legal requirement to stop using it you just may find some difficulty in replacing the gas cylinders or buying new units. Consumers are not required to do anything.

Dave

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Hi Dave

Do you have a reading problem

Try reading it first, before putting foot in mouth

If you bother to read it CAREFULLY ,you will see it has nothing to do with the gas cylinder as such, the problem lies with the  over pressure safety shut of valve in the unit itself 

I have posted  Copy &paste of the  OFFICIAL Fed GOV  RECALL of the particular brand & models!

IT IS AN OFFICIAL FED GOV  RECALL FOR THAT BRAND & THE INDICATED MODELS

 

Best get your facts right

PeterQ

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Cupie wrote:

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Gee some of guys are nasty.

Can't you just make your point without attacking others.

 

My reading of the 'withdrawl notice' and the associated list is that some 2 burner types (including my U bute $100 one) are not to be sold in certain states.  Had a look in Kmart here in Brissy yesterday & they had the old gas canisters but not burners for sale.

I have two single burner ones too that are too old & knocked about to read manufacturer details.  

 

I'll keep using them.

 

Now you can have a go at me too if that makes you feel superior or whatever.

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Hi Cupie

Obviously you have a similar reading problem

I believe the RECALL notice is very clear

I am  at a loss as to why some people cannot simply read, before jumping in & posting

 

Read MY post

IT IS NOT the with drawn from sale message that got such wide publicity & confusion  due to some people not understanding what they r were reading

IT IS NOT the advisory sent out by various STATE  Authorities ADVISING there was a safety risk

IT IS THE OFFICIAL MANDATORY RECALL NOTICE SENT OUT BY THE COMMONWEALTH GOV, NOTE the WORD" RECALL"

It Applies to ALL STATES &  NT & CANBERRA 

IT covers THAT ONE BRAND at this stage & the specified model numbers

No doubt other brands will, in time, also be issued with" RECALL "notices

At the present  ,as far as I am aware rTHAT ONE brand is the only ONE that has had to issue a FULL RECALL under orders from the Com GOV dept.

Now I hope you can understand the differences

It indicates what the problem is & it is not the gas cannisters[it is the over pressure flame shut of valve not functioning as required  

PeterQ .

 

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oldtrack123 wrote:

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D and D wrote:

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How many times does the nature of the ban need to be explained. The ban had nothing to do with the use of the equipment but the retail sale of the equipment. If you already have one of these units and the associated gas cylinders there is no legal requirement to stop using it you just may find some difficulty in replacing the gas cylinders or buying new units. Consumers are not required to do anything.

Dave

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Hi Dave

Do you have a reading problem

Try reading it first, before putting foot in mouth

If you bother to read it CAREFULLY ,you will see it has nothing to do with the gas cylinder as such, the problem lies with the  over pressure safety shut of valve in the unit itself 

I have posted  Copy &paste of the  OFFICIAL Fed GOV  RECALL of the particular brand & models!

IT IS AN OFFICIAL FED GOV  RECALL FOR THAT BRAND & THE INDICATED MODELS

 

Best get your facts right

PeterQ

-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Friday 3rd of April 2015 10:11:23 PM

-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Friday 3rd of April 2015 10:17:37 PM

-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Friday 3rd of April 2015 10:20:39 PM

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PeterQ, I am at a loss to understand the vitriol in your post  other than your assuming that my post was directed at your post of the recall notice. It wasn't, it was directed at the number of previous comments regarding people believing they were no longer permitted to use this type of equipment and this level of confusion goes back to when the advisory notices were first issued by the NSW Dept of Fair Trading back in the beginning of March (a month before the recall notice you posted). There were a number of reports, at the time, of retailers who had over reacted by removing both the burners and the gas cylinders from their shelves thereby making it difficult to source replacement cylinders. These events produced a number of clarifications from government departments and individuals about the nature of the advisory.

Regards

Dave

Cupie wrote.

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Perhaps it might be useful to look at the NSW Fair Trading Advisory on this site ....

http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/ftw/Consumers/Product_and_service_safety/Lunchbox_cookers.page?DCSext.ref=HomePageClick:ScamandAlerts

and its associated table of Products suspended from sale as at 10 March 2015.

 

This is the advice that I was referring to in MY post.

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Hi Cupie

I have no need to look at that link 

I received it, Automatically, the day it was issued

It out of date as far as the RECALL notice is concerned

The recall notice CONFIRMs the Problem with the specified brands/ model numbers

Those are the ones that have been PROVEN DANGEROUS &  ARE RECALLED AUST WIDE At this point.

It is very likely that follow up RECALLS will be issued for other Brands& models, once they are inspected & checked

I do hope when I post Those  , they are recognised & accpted AS OFFICIAL recalls with good reasons.

THEY DO NOT COMPLY TO AUST STANDARDS

 

 

PeterQ

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Hi Jenko 

Yes, that does what can happen if the can explodes But the can exploding is just the final chapter  

IF the safety gas shut of valve does not function, even THOSE cans will release gas, which may well be ignited by the actual burner flame

Result, a Bloody big flame &NOT just in the burner !!!

The only safegaurd is a fully functional gas shut off valve so the burner is TURNED OFF before excess pressure builds up in the can 

That is why it is a mandatory requirement under AUs standards for them to have a fully functional high gas  pressure BURNER shut OFF vavle

Over sized utensels are then covered

 

PeterQ.