We have a Garmin Doug with lifetime map updates which are very easy to do and have found it is as good as any out there............still gets us lost but only occasionally.
I also have the Navman My75 Doug, <because it has Bush Tracks throughout Australia as well>..I receive regular updates from Navman and received another update this week....it came with all updates guaranteed for three years...perhaps you should contact Navman Doug.......the bush tracks are invaluable for me when prospecting here in Golden Triangle and W.A....you have to be careful which road options you choose as it will take you to a bush track in lieu of a highway when I am towing the Van...Hoo Roo
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Mate, dont get a Hema, they are expensive to buy and keep. We have the Hema 5 and it costs every time try to update. Gave up. I now use my tom tom on the iphone ($89 with free upgrades, as opposed to $500) with wikicamps it works a treat. Havnt been lost yet.
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If you go "bush" the HEMA is the best GPS (with the best map capability) without question.
If you wander about on roads, you probably don't need its features and a $100 cheapy will do what you need. There is plenty of choice.
Doug we use a navman MY Escape 2 with life time map updates free and the ability to imput total vehicle dimensions in truck mode so you don't get stuck in narrow dead end streets or directed to do turns and U turns where it is impossible.
If you go "bush" the HEMA is the best GPS (with the best map capability) without question. If you wander about on roads, you probably don't need its features and a $100 cheapy will do what you need. There is plenty of choice.
Cheers, Peter
Same with us.
Not much point in having the capability of the HN6 or now HN7 if you don't get off the bitumen. Making up a route for 4x4 tracks on the machine or better still in Oziexplorer and loading it might not be something one needs.
I have sent a email to Navman customer support asking for help with map upgrades so will see what reply if any happens first, should work out cheaper as my free upgrade period has finished.
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Ive bought a Navman 7 about 4 mnths ago and found it complicated to use, compared to a Navman and the usual GPS units.
Ive now got my head round using the "on-road" side of the Navman and it has some good features on it, like screen display (3D etc), Camps 7, dump points, places to eat, servos, C/Ps along your assigned route etc.
The other side is the "black" side for me and is full of Hema rasta maps - you need to spend serious time to understand this and I cant be bothered.
Im waiting for Camps 8 to come out in February for the free up-date.
Would I buy is again - probably not for $699 (and that was on special with a windscreen cradle and sun shield)
On our travels round WA we have found Camps 7 to be very out of date and there are so many parks or free camps that have been available before Camps 7 was up-dated. Some advice in Camps 7 is also misleading or hopeless out of date (not to be dangerous - just a nuisance). I will eventually switch to an android and run wikicamps - seems to be much more up to date as the users can make comments on each site
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we bought a HN6 to do our round Australia trip by the time we got to Darwin I returned it for a refund it was useless sent us everywhere but the right way could not find a free camp that was off the main highway bought a navman in Darwin it failed in perth replaced it in perth failed again in kalgoorly this one is still going but poorly calibrated stickin to maps in future
Neil
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We are using a 2 year old Navman (my only real complaint is I can't operate it while driving but now I do not need to as I have trained the sweet heart to do most things) and a good quality Samsung tablet where I have a gps along with a off line mapping system called OsmAnd maps it will update while on line, very clever. The young ones use it for mountain bike riding.
On the tablet we have aps for most things that we use when on the road wiki camps, dump points and the list goes on.
We used OsmAnd maps while in Uk from one end to the other was a lot of fun allowing us to change our minds as we saw something to look at up a side road. Expanding the map on a 9 inch and now on a new 10 inch screen for the navigator to look at specially on multi lanes roundabouts. Lots of fun for novices drivers in Uk, all the seaside villages we drive though I am sure most sane people would of walked.
The Navman I still get free up dates brought on special around $120 not bad value 5 x 4 screen, I think the money spent on the tablet with multi uses is the better value but remember I have top of the line after using a all so ran one.
Have fun Dougwe and some of my thoughts is helpful. Ralph
I downloaded "BringGo" which works through Bluetooth on my iPone and comes through the "Mylink" infotainment screen in the Colorado, one word describes that..... Horrible. It also used a bit of data in a very short time so would hate to see what data it uses after a day of travel.
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Your need for a navigator should depend on your use for one. If you are driving on the road all the time, a general navigator (Garmin / NavMan / TomTom etc) is the most that you'd need. A considerably cheaper (and perhaps better) alternative if you have a smart phone with a reasonable sized screen is WikiCamps. The map can be downloaded and *all* updates are free. I have this running on my Samsung when I hit the road. The licence is for the user rather than for the device, so if you change your phone you can install WikiCamps on the new one without having to register it.
Another option if you have a smart phone is to download and run OziExplorer however it doesn't include any maps and you really need the desktop version to calibrate home made maps.
Hema GPS's are dual function in that they have a navigator (not sure of which one) and they also run OziExplorer for off road work. OziExplorer uses Raster maps or paper maps that you've scanned and calibrated with the desktop version of OziExplorer. The Navigator side maps may need to be updated every few years or so but you can still use the ones installed. The OziExplorer maps should only need to be updated if a better map becomes available. The maps supplied for use with OziExplorer are usually the current HEMA map set, however I don't know how extensive they are.
My preferred navigator is a Garmin 2597 with Bluetooth (to connect to the Samsung) and Lifetime Maps and Traffic. I can't speak for their customer support because I haven't really had a problem, but I do quite regularly re-program POI's to it. A Point of Interest is a point (coordinates) with a name to be displayed on the screen and *can* be navigated to. It may be a restaurant or fuel station or a campground such as Greens Lake.
I hope this helps... Wayne
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No Doug it comes easier with practise, I write most thing down, a plan as such that helps a lot.
As for the sav nat possibly need to down load a app or a program for it, your phone might have one in it and the tablet is very similar.
Sorry I can't be more help. Maybe a couple of question at Jb hi fi they have some very smart people. Ralph