New SA road law

spida · Guru

New SA road law

Brenda and Alan · Guru

Just have to wonder about polititicans and public servants when we are still governed like six different colonies 200 plus years down the track. I thought we were supposed to be making road regulation uniform over the whole off this ONE country
Alan

Phil C · Guru

Yep thats 100% on the ball. Not sure about the demerits though. I have discovered that South Australia is a unique state and has some odd customs, I have lived here since I got out of the RAAF in 1980.

I wonder if somebody should lobby the parasites in Canberra to make one set of rules for the whole country, it would be so much easier when on the road.

Safe travels

deverall11 · Guru

Brenda and Alan wrote:
Just have to wonder about polititicans and public servants when we are still governed like six different colonies 200 plus years down the track. I thought we were supposed to be making road regulation uniform over the whole off this ONE country
Alan

Yep, more reasons to get rid of stats and have the country as one unit. Uniform laws everywhere.

Dougwe · Chief one feather

So does this mean if you are driving along on a highway at 100kh and all of a sudden (at that speed) you happen across mr plod booking someone for probably what you mention you have to very quickly slow right down to 25kh even with around 2+tonne pushing you. Truckies even more.

7 points? Gee we will all be off the road in one day. Then there will be no one to book anyway.

Phil C · Guru

Dougwe wrote:
So does this mean if you are driving along on a highway at 100kh and all of a sudden (at that speed) you happen across mr plod booking someone for probably what you mention you have to very quickly slow right down to 25kh even with around 2+tonne pushing you. Truckies even more.

7 points? Gee we will all be off the road in one day. Then there will be no one to book anyway.

Good point Doug... I would find it very hard to pull up that fast. Knowing the cops they would not accept physics and the laws of nature as an excuse.. (im such a bloody cynic, scare myself at times confuse .

Safe travels

rockylizard · Guru

Gday...l

Gawd confuse ... it took me a very long time asking Mr Google to provide me with the actual rule/regulation/legislation regarding this new rule.

I have found these websites and hope they may be at least helpful, even if it does not fully explain the application of the new rule.

http://www.mylicence.sa.gov.au/road-rules/drive25

http://www.mylicence.sa.gov.au/road-rules/road-rules-amendments

http://www.mylicence.sa.gov.au/road-rules/offences-and-penalties ... but this does not seem to have been updated to list any penalty (fine and/or demerit points) for exceeding the 25kph under the new rule. Unless of course, they apply the Kph that you are exceeding the 25kph to the existing rules - eg by 45kph or more = $952 and 9 demerit points.

Maybe someone in SA can do some homework and provide some documentation of the penalities. I give up. confuse

Cheers - John

Golddetectornomad · Senior Member

I have never had a speeding fine, or any fine, since first obtaining my drivers licence in S.A. in 1965...49 years later they are dreaming up even more ingenius ways to attempt to entrap me.....next we will be booked for voyeurism as we slow down to grin at the hapless driver being booked......bizarre......I still try to drive so my Licence expires before I do....I well remember the good old days when the only trouble with parking was to get the girl to agree!.......

Remember those famous last words: 'Well if he won't dip his lights then I won't dip mine'......Hoo Roo

-- Edited by Golddetectornomad on Friday 22nd of August 2014 12:34:21 PM

-- Edited by Golddetectornomad on Friday 22nd of August 2014 12:35:41 PM

Jack · Veteran Member

As a member of the CFS this is long overdue, trying to get the general public to slow down when we are working in and adjacent to the road even with flashing lights, orange cones and Slow and stop signs is nigh on impossible at times.........

Tomzys · Senior Member

I agree Jack its about time something was done there's a lot of self centered and in considerate people out there.

WollyandPete · Veteran Member

This new legislation has something new in it, that is an 'Emergency Service Speed Zone'.
The 25km/h Emergency Service Speed Zone applies on an area of road:

25 km/h max

In the immediate vicinity of an emergency service vehicle that has stopped on the road and is displaying a flashing blue or red light; or
Between two sets of flashing blue or red lights that have been placed by an emergency worker at either end of a length of road on which an emergency vehicle has stopped.
It does not apply if you are driving on a road that is divided by a median strip and the emergency service speed zone is on the other side of the road beyond the median strip.

Under the current legislation there is no provision for this emergency service speed zone. So, you only were required to be doing 40kph while actually passing the emergency service vehicle, not through the whole accident scene that could be spread over a couple of hundred metres.
The legislation will now cover speeding through the whole 'zone' for the protection of those working in it.

As for police booking someone on the side of the road, what do we all do naturally when we see that, slow down, now you just have to slow down a bit more.

In my past experience while at road incidents as a emergency service worker I have only seen on a couple of occasions a speed camera being used. Only then when sufficient resources were available.

I have seen vehicles pulled over and told to stop driving through a accident scene several times rubber necking, I have seen a side arm pulled by police to ensure a driver followed his direction to stop when the driver would not, I have seen one car failing to stop and driving under the rotaing arms of the rescue helicopter and I have on many occasion placed my fire appliances across the road and blocked traffic to a standstill just to protect my troops on the ground.

And 'Jack' most of these incidents have been on the Sturt Highway just down the road from you mate!

Money raising exercise? I don't think so guys, Emergency Services have been calling for this for years!

Pete.

Glenelg · Guru

WollyandPete wrote:
This new legislation has something new in it, that is an 'Emergency Service Speed Zone'.
The 25km/h Emergency Service Speed Zone applies on an area of road:

25 km/h max

In the immediate vicinity of an emergency service vehicle that has stopped on the road and is displaying a flashing blue or red light; or
Between two sets of flashing blue or red lights that have been placed by an emergency worker at either end of a length of road on which an emergency vehicle has stopped.
It does not apply if you are driving on a road that is divided by a median strip and the emergency service speed zone is on the other side of the road beyond the median strip.

Under the current legislation there is no provision for this emergency service speed zone. So, you only were required to be doing 40kph while actually passing the emergency service vehicle, not through the whole accident scene that could be spread over a couple of hundred metres.
The legislation will now cover speeding through the whole 'zone' for the protection of those working in it.

As for police booking someone on the side of the road, what do we all do naturally when we see that, slow down, now you just have to slow down a bit more.

In my past experience while at road incidents as a emergency service worker I have only seen on a couple of occasions a speed camera being used. Only then when sufficient resources were available.

I have seen vehicles pulled over and told to stop driving through a accident scene several times rubber necking, I have seen a side arm pulled by police to ensure a driver followed his direction to stop when the driver would not, I have seen one car failing to stop and driving under the rotaing arms of the rescue helicopter and I have on many occasion placed my fire appliances across the road and blocked traffic to a standstill just to protect my troops on the ground.

And 'Jack' most of these incidents have been on the Sturt Highway just down the road from you mate!

Money raising exercise? I don't think so guys, Emergency Services have been calling for this for years!

Pete.

i was about to say it's been 40 for years passing the red and blue from emergency services, have no problems dropping down to 25 they have a unthankful job

JackoFJR · Senior Member

Emergency Services with part of the road blocked . I see no problem with that as in the example in that first link above .. Whenever I have came across a scene like that it has always been well controlled anyway

But Mr Plod with a vehicle pulled over , 25kph is a bit much , I dunno what it like in SA but here in Vic at holiday times Easter ect or longweek ends slowing the heavy traffic that much could very well cause accidents . Im not saying fly past at the speed limit either , depending on the conditions at the time , road width , time of day weather ect slow to a reasonable safe speed should be ok .

I have plenty of times not had to slow down when there is ample room , you assess the situation as you approach , car off far enough to the side no one standing on the road or even where they can step onto the road quickly just common sense

The type of person that speeds through a emergency scene is either a DH or just plain stupid and it wont make any difference what the law is the only way to stop them is catch em and throw the book at them

Jacko