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Soon I expect I will buy a generator, and given that I really do not expect to use I am planning to buy a cheapy, ex ebay.

Recently looked at the new 2 stroke Baumer-AG being sold by AGR, 2KVa, 8.5kg wow that sounds good, but it is rated at 6,500 rpm, I suspect I would get lynched if i tried to use that.

Then I looked at other brands, Gentrax for example advertised as 2.2KVA, but max rated output 1.4KVA, the 2.2kva is what is called "OSE" OTHER SELLER EQUIVALENT.

Hmm, thought I would have a look at the big brands, sure enough a Honda 2.0EUi is rated at 1,600W.

Thankfully I do not expect to need much, so any of them would probably do my job. But what has happened to honesty in advertising?

 



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My friend and I bought a welder from the company you mention in your post. Check out some forums re that company before you deal with them. I could tell you a long winded explanation why, but suffice to say it took months before we were reimbursed by Paypal.



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I just checked out Mills trading (AGR) started by David Mills a manitenance guy at Arnotts in Sydney, he invented the Baumr-AG brand to sound German so he could sell saws against Stihl. BRW wrote a story about him in 2012, he had already turned over $26M.



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Check out this forum.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1283863

After my dealings with this company........................................



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Yuglamron wrote:

Check out this forum.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1283863

After my dealings with this company........................................

 Good link - success in Australia means you've made it when you are in BRW and have fleeced thousands and got away with it. 



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Plendo wrote:

advertised as 2.2KVA, but max rated output 1.4KVA, the 2.2kva is what is called "OSE" OTHER SELLER EQUIVALENT.

Hmm, thought I would have a look at the big brands, sure enough a Honda 2.0EUi is rated at 1,600W.

Thankfully I do not expect to need much, so any of them would probably do my job. But what has happened to honesty in advertising?

 

 

This is pretty much the same as audio amplifiers, especially in the car domain. You will often see an amplifier advertised or promoted as providing 1000 Watts output.
Will it produce 1000 Watts? 
Yes and no. The figure is usually the peak power output (or PMPO in audio terms). Most times the actual RMS output is well below these figures.

With generators, one advertised as 2 Kva and having an output of 1600 Watts, you will most always find that the 2000 Watt tag is due to it's peak-rating.



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Checked the gen sets at Bunnings ?? At least you can take it back and they are everywhere ! Better warrantee than eBay.. .? 

http://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/tools/power-tools/generators?gclid=CJO3q93ZjL0CFVUJvAodci0AkA 

-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Wednesday 12th of March 2014 08:41:05 PM



-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Wednesday 12th of March 2014 08:43:20 PM

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David..

Are you seriously think'n of a generator..?


I have one that came with the bus that I'm not going to have any room for and hopefully not have a need for..

- let's talk some..
it's not to noisy.. and it ran what I need it to run when I was at green's..

Juergen..

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VKPORTABLE wrot.

With generators, one advertised as 2 Kva and having an output of 1600 Watts, you will most always find that the 2000 Watt tag is due to it's peak-rating.

 HI

the KVA rating& the WATTs rating are not comparable

the kVA rating is usually based on a "power factor "of 0. 8 while the Watts is basedon  PF of 1.0

what should be checked with either rating is wether it is 'peak rating or "continious rating"

the peak rating is usually only < few minutes for motor starting etc ,while the cont rating is what it should be able to put out all day without overheating

 

 

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