David, what type of vehicle is your tug??
Air bags have been blamed for a lot of the cracked chassis' on the later model utes.

Not familiar with the Al-Ko, so cannot comment on the WDH.

Peter

-- Edited by PJK on Saturday 22nd of February 2014 05:12:15 PM

Alko ESC has absolutely nothing to do with a WDH. The ESC controls sway or over sway by applying a brake, left or right depending on the swing to control the van. WDH spreads the load of the vehicle off the tow ball to all over the tug thus getting the van to ride level.

Amazing the number of vans you see that are nose down, ass up and the tug with the back nearly touching the ground.

This leaves the subject of mirrors, or those who tow without adequate vision down the side of their vehicle, to another time.

Bob

Dave you do not mention the type of vehicle you plan to tow with. If it is conventional suspension with the assistance of air bags, I would be using a WDH, and using it to allow you to reduce the pressure in the air bags. Air bags especially ones with high pressure are often the cause of chassis cracking and bending.

If however your vehicle is native with air bags (example Land Rover), then I would be following the recommendation of the manufacturer. Again using Land Rover as an example the manufacturer recommends that you do not use a WDH. 

Some camper owners fit a Weight Distribution Hitch between the tow car and the camper. A number of other campers have suggested to me that it may be advisable to fit a WDH to my tow car / camper setup, a KIA Cerato towing an Avan Aliner. Accordingly, I contacted KIA Australia to confirm if this was approved - here is their reply :

 

"Thank you for contacting Kia Motors Australia.

 

Kia does NOT recommend the use of load leveling devices on ANY Kia vehicle fitted with a genuine Kia accessory tow bar, any damage caused to the vehicle or tow bar with the use of load leveling devices will not be covered under the vehicles warranty. Kia Motors Australia does not sell load leveling devices as an approved genuine accessory.

 

Under no circumstances should load leveling devices be used on ANY vehicle equipped with electronic stability control (ESP)."

 

Now that is a far reaching statement !!!

 

Notice that although the Kia Sportage and Sorrento are popular small RV tow vehicles, KIA does not even approve of using WDH's with those vehicles.

 

If there are any existing Kia owners out there towing their Aliners (or other camper trailers or caravans) with WDH's, they should cease using the WDH immediately.

 

More important, is the statement about using WDH's with ANY vehicles fitted with ESC. As most recent and current vehicles are fitted with ESC, and as the ADR's change, tending towards making ESC standard on all future vehicles sold in Australia, it will sound the 'death knell' for WDH's.The problem is, the vehicle's Electronic Stability Control is a finely tuned computer setup based on the STANDARD running gear configuration of that vehicle - if you add WDH's to an ESP equipped vehicle you are likely to totally throw out the ESP balance with the likelihood of CAUSING an accident rather than avoiding one !

 

If you have any tow vehicle, of any brand, fitted with ESC and using a WDH, you should cease using the WDH immediately.

If in any doubt, ask your vehicle manufacturer if a WDH is approved for your vehicle, and if not, to cease using it immediately.

 

If you are involved in an accident with WDH's attached, and they have not been approved by your vehicle manufacturer, the insurance company will void your insurance immediately, as the system is not in accordance with the manufacturer's recommendations - possibly leaving you open to substantial financial penalties and associated stress.

Food for thought - what do you reckon !!

Regards, Brian

Hi guys

does a CA 4 rod equaliser come under the same classification as a WDH

My tug is a 2012 Nissan D40 towing a 18ft 6" tandem Millard & I fitted Alkos ESC to van

Thanks Greg

Hi ozjohn I thought you may find this faq on the Alko site of interest
Cheers mate
Greg
www.alkoesc.com.au/escfaq.html

If not familar with Alko ESC please don't offer your uninformed comments

-- Edited by Hydeeeho on Wednesday 26th of February 2014 06:22:01 PM

In my book, according to what I have researched- and we did heaps of research when buying the new tug- if the vehicle can't take a WDH, then it can't safely tow.

Now before you shoot me.............the manufacterers put their prohibition on in order to prevent chassis damage, so if the chassis is not built to withstand the forces placed upon it by towing, its not able to do the job, because its a given- WDH is essential for safe towing.

For this reason, we crossed off any vehicle whose maker does not recommend the use of a WDH.

Some vehicles are not tow vehicles.

Plendo wrote:

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A rosie maybe you jumped to teh wrong conclusion in some cases. Some vehicles are designed as tow vehicles, and as such just don't need the help that some less suited tow vehicles need.

 

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 Yeah?................ how so?

Plendo wrote:

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Have a look at the tow review on page 120 of the February Caravan World for an extreme example.

All Land Rover Discoveries have self leveling suspension, and do not use WDH. And before you tell me they are too expensive they are cheaper, and use a lot less fuel than the equivalent Toyota.

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 All ??????

 

Good reason why Disco's use less fuel .