all depends how long you want to go away for Paul there are plenty of nomads moving from house to house to look after them, maybe you should look into that ( I dont know if there is any money involved in that ) and most stay in there own Caravan on site
Live today, tomorrow can be to late
Cheers John
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I'm pretty sure I could not do it solo and I figure the answer may be a dog....not a lap dog or a blue heeler, just reliable old bitzer with a bit of labrador in her. The type of dog that will sit by your side at the campfire and listen to whatever you wish to say with an ear co*ked sharing your talk and the surroundings. They never complain and you are always their number one. Re the house, I think I'd clean it all up, get rid of what I'd mean't to throw away years ago, put the rest in a container in a secure location and rent the place out for 2 years. That gives you a steady income and 2 years to do whatever you want to. Good Luck.
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Hi Paul Welcome to this forum you have to make that decision completely on your own a lot of things to consider what to do with the house ect money wise you need at least a few hundred dollars a week to live from including petrol ( depends how much traveling you do of course ) if you keep the house the bills keep coming in ( water rates insurance ect ect )
A reliable house sitter who does not steel everything
Some one to reliably colect mail and pay bills
Is there such people available
Staying at home and working seems to be a good hasel free way
Most pay their bills on the road through BPay, etc there are ways if you really want to do it. Online billing! I agree it can seem so hard and easier to stay at home but no fun. I do understand, sometimes we need to push boundaries and it isn't easy.
As far as I know, there was no house in the Garden of Eden. Maybe there was a tent, but I'm not sure. Anyway, it took mankind a long, long time to figure out how to stay put in one place - to tame animals, to grow crops, to become "civilized". And now we've forgotten how it was to be a nomad, and free of all the restrictions placed on us by urban living. Or have we? I guess the life of a gypsy is not for everyone, and if that's the way you feel, Paul, then you better stick to the safety of your mates and your routine. OR... you could give it a shot for a few months and see how it works out.
One thing's for sure, you ain't gonna know what it's like out there by sitting on your butt wondering about it hehe. Two things people have said have stuck in my brain: One was an old bloke standing alongside his parked caravan who said, "Don't leave it too late, mate." The other was a young bloke working his way around Australia. He was from Sweden. "Do what you can while you can," he told me.
The thing that scares me most is reaching a point in my life where I wished I had, but didn't.
It can be just as isolated in your own home, I was in a leg cast for nearly 4 months, couldn't shop, drive and when I slipped noone to help me up. Then I broke an ankle 400 klms from home and a person even offered to wipe my backside (a nurse) at a rest stop.
Your fears are quite valid, but you do all you can to minimise those risks.
It doesn't cost a lot to be happy and live within a budget. If you want to dine out at good restaurants keep working for sure. Good home cooked food and occasional club meals are affordable on a pension IMO while travelling.
Up sticks and go now!!!! No one on their death bed has yet been heard to say, "I wish I had spent more time at the office" I looked forward to retirement and have never regretted it, there is so much to do other than work.
I don't wanna trivialize your fear of insecurity, Paul, but as the man said the only thing to fear is fear itself. My older bro when I told him I was gonna travel around Oz said, "What if something happens?" Well, what if it does? It might as well happen "out there" as anywhere else.
Anyway, I suspect you're trying to talk yourself out of going and need someone to support your doubts. So be it. If you're gonna worry about it every step of the way, best not to go.
Dont sit back and wait til cancer or some other devastating illness comes to visit!! Those are the things that make you wonder why we are here...feel the fear ... and do it anyway!!!
As a former Real Estate Agent I have seen first hand the substantial number of couples who were close to selling and fulfilling their life held dream of travelling round Australia....even had their RV's all set up and then fate steps in and either ill health or worse, removes all chance for them both to travel as they had anticipated...I was determined it would not happen to us so decided to hit the road over 3 years ago while we still could.....most workers work for the taxation Dept for the first 3 months of every year with the tax they pay....how sick is that?.....we have found simple actually is better......there is also little doubt lifes ills can be brought on by stress particularly by working in later years unless you are fortunate to be doing exactly what you want and when you want to..which very few achieve in any working capacity......my advice is do it now, the extra money by remaining in work in our 60's is largely irrelevant......I have lost count of the number of ex Bank employees who used to choose to work to 65 who invariably died within a few years whilst those that retired or terminated at 55 or 60 have gone on to live long and fruitful lives...what does that tell us...I'm also a former Bank Manager so knew many personally.... I saw an acturial report of life expectancy compliled in U.S. on the large Boeing Corporation and similar Companys and it was staggering to see those that opted to continue to work past 60 were actually reducing their life expectancy with uncanny predictability...I still have that report and it should be mandatory reading for all those who continue to work in perhaps unsatisfying jobs just for the money.....you wont be round acturally speaking to enjoy it....its also why a Cash strapped Government would love to see us all working into our late 60's and 70's.....it tends to kill us off from any long term Government dependancy IMO....do it while you can....death is certain every thing else remains a gift of time to enjoy..Hoo Roo
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'Without Going, You Get No Where'.
' Aspire to Inspire before you Expire'
Where Gold be....is where Gold be......old Cornish saying......
The older we get the fewer things seem worth waiting in line for.......
I retired, sold my house, and am about to venture around Australia as a solo. I will find people to travel in convoy with but will be in my own car with my own camper trailer and just want to go. Won't be long now. People said to me to just do it and that is what I am going to do. I have no house to come back to. My daughter is getting my mail and will send it on if I want anything and I have no idea where on the road I am going but go I will.
As a former Real Estate Agent I have seen first hand the substantial number of couples who were close to selling and fulfilling their life held dream of travelling round Australia....even had their RV's all set up and then fate steps in and either ill health or worse, removes all chance for them both to travel as they had anticipated...I was determined it would not happen to us so decided to hit the road over 3 years ago while we still could.....most workers work for the taxation Dept for the first 3 months of every year with the tax they pay....how sick is that?.....we have found simple actually is better......there is also little doubt lifes ills can be brought on by stress particularly by working in later years unless you are fortunate to be doing exactly what you want and when you want to..which very few achieve in any working capacity......my advice is do it now, the extra money by remaining in work in our 60's is largely irrelevant......I have lost count of the number of ex Bank employees who used to choose to work to 65 who invariably died within a few years whilst those that retired or terminated at 55 or 60 have gone on to live long and fruitful lives...what does that tell us...I'm also a former Bank Manager so knew many personally.... I saw an acturial report of life expectancy compliled in U.S. on the large Boeing Corporation and similar Companys and it was staggering to see those that opted to continue to work past 60 were actually reducing their life expectancy with uncanny predictability...I still have that report and it should be mandatory reading for all those who continue to work in perhaps unsatisfying jobs just for the money.....you wont be round acturally speaking to enjoy it....its also why a Cash strapped Government would love to see us all working into our late 60's and 70's.....it tends to kill us off from any long term Government dependancy IMO....do it while you can....death is certain every thing else remains a gift of time to enjoy..Hoo Roo
Brilliant post. Lets hope it motivates people to "JUST DO IT"...
Statistics can lie, but not in this case. We had an employee defer retirement for five years to gain a benefit from Centrelink.
He died with a new caravan and boat in the driveway
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Cheers, Chris...
"The problem with doing nothing is not knowing when you're finished" - Benjamin Franklin
Firstly welcome to the forum, you will find the people here are full of good advise and excellent friendship if you let them. My opion, go for it NOW. Do not leave it until it is too late and you are sitting somewhere wiching you had gone. I have trialed a week on my own recently, have come to home to sell up and go for good, I cannot wait. I will PM my story to you as everyone on here has heard it, well most. As for being lonely on the road, you will be only as lonely as you allow yourself to be. There are always people around to talk to, to help you out and just to say Gidday to. Life happens while we are sitting around waiting to see if we should join it or not. I am a single female, 58, and well I guess the only we have to fear is fear itself. The most energy you will expend is the first takeoff, after that all plain sailing so to speak.
As one brand logo says "JUST DO IT".
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Dream it, believe it, live it.
4WD with a ford ranger. The possibilities are endless.
Life is too short and unpredictable to waste time talking about what if! Been there done that!
When my wife was given the "all clear " after lung cancer, we decided to set our selves up to do some traveling and concequently knocked over our house, subdevided and built aur retirement home. Purchased a caravan etc to travel with. Half way through the building she was diagnosed with terminal braincancer and given 8mths, she lasted 7. Shortly after I decided i was going to DO IT. slod my business, sold the new house the caravan etc and bought a motor home. Dont know if it was the right thing to do or not but I did it. Things havnt run according to plan since then but can only get better! Dont waste your life thinking about it just bloody do it!
Vk6tnc Chris, If you're interested I have scanned the 4 page U.S. report on Longevity Vs Retirement Age which I am happy to email you. Shoot me your email addy if you wish...my email is larry@penalvagold.net The report 'Optimum Strategies for Longevity' carried out in 2002 by Sing Lin,Ph.D. Chinese Institute of Engineers-USA/Greater New York Chapter etc...I found almost life changing in my approach to 'living to work' for many many years....the report basically was carried out because there was a 'Changing Trend of U.S. Pension Plans' where large Corporations like Boeing,Lockheed,Ford Motor Company, Bellcore etc..were finding their Pension Funds were "Over Funded" due to the employees electing to work through to 65 and they were dying within 2 years on average.....Pension Funds such as Boeing Aerospace made available overviews/details of cheques being sent to their retired personnel......he lists from 49.9 years age of retirement with average age of death 86 in 15 increments to Age of retirement 65.2 with average age at death of 66.8!......Boeing personnel who elected to work to 65 received cheques for only 18 months...Lockheed Corp received cheques for only 17 months for those who worked through to 65....how sad is that?.... and no doubt the Government has even better information available to them when they urge us to keep working past 65 years.....the Doctor also states Japanese people retire at the age of 60 or earlier which was one of the factors contributing to their long average life spans....the U.S. Pension fund synopsis shows that...' late retirees are small in number,tend to die quickly after retirement and disappear from the population of old people beyond the age of 70 and late retirees therefor,have very little weight on the statistical average life expectancy of the population of old people dominated by the earlier retirees'.....Pension funds have now been re-designed to give much greater benefit to the younger employees "cash balance plans' and are very unfavourable to the long term older employee....he concludes earlier retirees are not really idling after early retirement they still continue doing some work on part time basis at more leisure pace so they do not get 'stressed out' and they tend to have the luxury to pick and chose the types of part time work of real interest to them so they can regard as 'fun' and at a more leisure pace.... Sounds almost like 'we lot' here on GreyNomads..does it not?..... P.S. by the way in the chart those that retire at 60 can expect 78.5 years before possibly pegging it....but I suspect our lifestyle will see many Centarians in our ranks....perhaps having 'happy half hours' and doing things in moderation....trust you found this short synopsis interesting and thought provoking as it was intended....not to scare the pants off anyone....Hoo Roo
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'Without Going, You Get No Where'.
' Aspire to Inspire before you Expire'
Where Gold be....is where Gold be......old Cornish saying......
The older we get the fewer things seem worth waiting in line for.......
Travelling solo is different for each of us .. Its taken me four years since getting on the road as a solo traveller to find the peace that I now enjoy .. My wife passed nearly 10 years ago .. and then a few years later I chose to sell a home of 30 years .. the lads were young adults and I was on my "pat malone" as they lived away from home sharing with friends... all those lovely memories in my face (the home) had to go so that I could move on .. I still have all the memories but without the "clutter"
Initially I travelled at a fairly hectic pace and without really experiencing what I wanted to .. now I just plod along linking up with my great GN friends from all over Oz ..
Time will govern your wellbeing .. and for some it can be just a little bandaid that is needed, yet others might wear a small bandage for some time .. this mad bunch of guys 'n gals here will help you fill in that time .. time with friends works Scotty and you're doing good !
I have a brother who retired at 60 and is now 79. He seems to be in pretty good nick. My oldest bro has never retired and he's 83. He still works 3 days a week as a hairdresser. Maybe it's because he likes what he does, and enjoys the company of the ladies. A snip, snip here and a snip, snip there, and "darling you look absolutely gorgeous". Hehe. As to me, I love writing and photography, and "work" 7 days a week. The main reason I wanna travel Oz is to give me an excuse to do more writing and take more piccies.
So, if you love what you do I guess it's not really work. When people recently asked what I had planned for the Easter break I shrugged and said, "Same as I always do."
BTW, I meant to add that the stories told on this thread of coping with the death of a loved one, assorted health issues, and other challenges, is most inspiring and I think you people deserve a huge round of applause.
-- Edited by GaryKelly on Sunday 31st of March 2013 07:23:00 PM