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Excellent suggestion msq.  We do intend to check her regularly every day.  We will also have with us a list of vets in all areas we are travelling through.  Having travelled with a terminally ill pet (another Australian Silky) in 2010 and 2011 we know the value of good vet services.  This new little dog is so precious.  We have had her in our lives for almost 3 months and expect to have her for many, many months longer.

I'll see about getting a tick remover.  I have no idea what they look like but the internet is wonderful for discovery.

 

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We intend to travel north  to Broken Hill, Bourke, Cunnamulla, Barcaldine, Mt Isa, Lawn Hill, Burketown, Normanton, Cook and then south following the coast in the middle of the year.  We also intend to take our small dog, well puppy, Pippa as we couldn't live without her for the time we are away.  Our major concern is Ticks.  We'll use Frontline Plus on her fortnightly.  I'm sure others have travelled with their dog and have faced these issues.  We're travelling with a dirt road van.

What other precautions should we take and what else should we look out for?  Pippa is an Australian Silky Terrier.

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You must check her all over every day. Get a tick remover for just in case. I always keep an eye out for convenient vets as well.

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Make sure to check between her toes, under her collar, in any wrinkle, inside her ears even.

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Thank you Gerty; another great lot of suggestions.

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Hi,  We live in C.Q'ld & travel through the north with our silky. Have found that having her clipped before leaving makes it easy to find ticks & other parasites. Added bonus is that she does not pick up as many burrs etc. Keep your eyes open for areas where baits have been laid also.    Bill



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Thanks Bill,

Currently her coat is pretty short as she is only 5 months old, but I think that we will ensure she is clipped because that way we can 'see' things more readily. Having an easier life with burrs is also really worthwhile. Our other Silky was a magnet for them. Do you use Frontline as a protection on your Siky?

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My vet was not so keen to have her clipped. He seemed to think her thick coat may have been good insulation against the heat. ?? (Long coat chihuahua) She has been in C QLD bush camping for the last two winters and once over Christmas in Brisbane. She coped well. Got filthy dirty bu no burrs.

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Hi, We use "Revolution" on our dogs. Shop around online for the best deals.   We started to clip our silky after it took over 3 hours to remove all the burrs from her one time. After that time & losing her down a rabbit warren for 2 days she now spends most free time on a long running lead.    Bill 



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Just goes to show all sorts of things to consider.  our previous dog had been in Queensland during summers and late autumn and we had no problems with ticks or anything else.  My sister lives on the Sunshine Coast as do good friends and we also have good friends in Rockhampton, on a farm.  She had a wonderful time there being a farm dog.

 

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Bill,

I'm sitting her grinning at the rabbit story as I know just what you mean.  Our previous Silky discovered rabbits at the beach (country) one day.  She became a major hunter who had time only for the chase.  I was terrified she was going to go down a burrow and get stuck.  Now she was trained to Level 4 obedience at that stage, but with the terrier temperament that made no difference; the chase was the thing.

I also know about burrs, jsut awful and so time consuming, and they hurt.

We also use a running lead.  Too many snakes, rabbits, lizards, whatever to distract a Silky.  We prefer to be safe.

It's great to know someone else has a Silky.  Great little dogs, lots of personality and so very loyal.  How old is yours, and her name?

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Hi Di, I know what you mean by the hunter instinct with silkies. We live in a rural area with no close neighbours so plenty of wildlife to chase whenever we go for a walk. The count so far is the rabbit hole, a hollow log (24 hrs), 3 overnighters & about 6@ 7hrs before finding her way home. Ruby is a great little dog but now I have to be away a lot for hospital visits my son has taken her. She has settled into town life well. Adores my daughter in law & the 2 granddaughters, shows no sign of roaming, sleeps outside, only barks when someone comes too close. Different to when she was  here.  When things settle down a silky is high on the list for a replacement.    Bill



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Hi Bill,

Describes every Silky I know to a T. We just love the breed. Again I'm grinning at the exploits of Ruby. So true to form. They're also very loyal little dogs. As someone once said, they're a bit like potato chips; you just have to have more.

Good luck with the hospital visits and hopefully you can soon follow up that list and get another Silky.

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I have lived on the Atherton Tablelands for a good chunk of time, with small dogs and cats. I tried many things to keep the ticks off. Nothing is foolproof, unfortunately, but the Tableland Veterinary Service has a good article on how to do what you can:

http://www.tablelandvet.com.au/FormsInfo/Articles/tabid/22194/Default.aspx?ArticleID=285

The only little doggie I had who got a tick was a Foxie-Chihuahua cross named Trixie. She got very sick but we rushed her the Vet and she survived. I only lost her in the past twelve months, when she was 14 years old. I had a Maltese who was my wonderful companion for 14 years there too. He never did get a tick but he was mainly an inside dog, where Trixie wanted to be outside.

Watch out for the small wild animals (possums etc) who often host ticks. Bats do too, though the ticks can kill them. Bandicoots are particularly attractive to ticks for some reason.

I have a little Silkese now who is very dear to us. I use Advocat on him in SEQ. If i go north with him, I will be checking him all over every day, in all the nooks and crannies :) Ticks can even attach themselves inside a dog's lips...



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Hi Colin 'n' Susan,

Thanks so much for that link. I've given it a quick once over but will print it off and take it with us. I'll also read it with greater deliberation tomorrow. I'll also make sure we have all of the recommended sprays, items, whatever. She's a pretty special little dog for us and we want her to be safe. We don't want to leave her at home for 3 months, especially as she is so young and also especially as we want her with us and we're sure she'll also be much happier that way.

Is a Silkese a cross between a Silky and a Maltese?

Just thought. I think I'll print off all the answers here too.

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http://www.tablelandvet.com.au/FormsInfo/Articles/tabid/22194/Default.aspx?ArticleID=285

 



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I am going to get some of that frontline spray that kills ticks. Sounds good. Thanks for the link.

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I lived for 12 years in FNQ with rainforest national park on all boundaries of our property. I noticed that in areas like that there were no feral cats or rabbits as the paralysis ticks killed em pretty quickly. I found that no matter what sprays and other potions you use, the dog can still pick up a paralysis tick for long enough to get sick, so, the first thing is, as already suggested, a daily inspection bearing in mind that a tick which has not yet fed much can be very tiny and hidden in all sorts of skin folds etc. Second, the first symptom of paralysis tick poisoning is a pounding headache (I can tell you that the same effect happens to humans if they get one). So if you know your dog well, you will know if he or she seems to be having an off day. Don't ignore it. By the time the back end of the dog starts collapsing it may be too late, and the treatment if it is tick is usually only about $150 (that's what credit cards were invented for). The other thing to watch out for is leptospirosis. My blue dog got that, and because I took her straight to a vet when she seemed "down in the mouth" and he began the treatment for lepto before the pathology confirmed the diagnosis, she was one of the rare cases he managed to save. Lepto is a disease that is carried by rats and is very common in banana plantations, can be fatal in humans too as it attacks the liver. Having said all that, in the 12 years there I never lost a dog to these things as my dogs have always lived with me and any change in behaviour is immediately noticed.
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PS, there are a lot of different ticks but the only serious ones (as far as I know) are the paralysis ticks. They are readily identifiable and it's probably a good idea to check online exactly what they look like.
http://www.ullavet.com.au/tick.html#peripheral

Also http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=paralysis+tick&hl=en&biw=1366&bih=644&tbm=isch&imgrefurl=http://www.virbac.com.au/p-virbacaupuben/display.aspx%3Fsrv%3Dp-virbacau%26typ%3Dpub%26lang%3Den%26cmd%3Dview%26style%3Dstyles/page2.xsl%26select%3DPAGE%255B%40ID%24eq%24PAGE_122%255D%26generic1%3DARTICLE_978%26&tbnid=3mh-zjriRPvfvM&docid=1wS6iWz2WoVa_M&ved=0CFIQhRYoAQ&ei=m3VhUZaHFIfriAfAzoG4DQ&dur=4812  and notice the positioning of the legs in paralysis ticks

 



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Hi Marianna,

Thanks for the advice. We intend to ensure that Pippa has a short coat (she still does as she is still a puppy). We also intend to check her very regularly. In fact she'll probably get tired of being checked. We also have a soft playpen that we will take and it has a floor as well as mesh sides which we hope will also help. We also intend to take ground matting for her to be on: again we hope that will help.

I was going to use Frontline Plus, but due to advice from here I have had a close look at Advantix and I think that I will look at buying a good supply of that and start her on it before we leave and use it fortnightly. I also thought I would buy Frontline Spray and use that too.

I'll have a list of vets for areas where we travel but as some will be remote we will have to be extra vigilant.

Our other Silky went as far north as Rockhampton where she spent two weeks being a farm dog on the farm of friends. She had a wonderful time running with the big dogs, swimming in the creek and just having a wonderful time. We used Frontline Plus on her fortnightly and she did not get one tick. This time we will be further north and that's the concern for our new dog.

Thanks again,
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We have taken our black c o c k e r spaniel as far north as Cairns.
He is shorn and we use Advantix fortnightly on him. Never had a problem
with ticks or fleas as this stuff kills everything. Even repels mosquitos.
Took him up in Sept last year and will be doing so again in a couple of weeks.
In Hervey Bay we stayed at the Harbour View Caravan Park.
Tis right behind the boat club.
Only a short walk to a dog friendly beach too
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Thanks Kathy.  It's good to hear success stories and to know of dog friendly beaches as our girl loves the beach.  The flies and mosquitoes being repelled is also a major consideration regarding what to use.  You've helped confirm Advantix.

 

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We prefer the Advantix tube delivery system to the Frontline pipette system, plus Advantixs additional Fly/Mosquito repelling properties.

However over time (roughly 2 years of monthly at home, around 1 year of fortnightly treatment when on bush/northerly trips) we found our Pug developed a reaction to Advantix which would cause him to scratch his flank near where the Advantix had been applied to his back. This scratching increased such that it would last up to 3 or 4 days after treatment. Though it was not constant scratching, it was certainly not his normal behaviour.

We swapped him across to Frontline Plus for three months and there was no scratching after Frontline Plus was applied. On the fourth month we gave him Advantix and he again started scratching, though only for less than a day.

So for the next 12mths he gets Frontline Plus and we will review with the thought of using Advantix whilst travelling and Frontline Plus when at home in Melbourne suburbs.



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Thanks Ron and Shirley. Our girl has had nothing yet due to her age. As she will be spayed at the end of this month we will start her once she is past that time. I'll also keep in mind the possibility of such a reaction.

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Ron and Shirley wrote:

 

We prefer the Advantix tube delivery system to the Frontline pipette system, plus Advantixs additional Fly/Mosquito repelling properties.

 

However over time (roughly 2 years of monthly at home, around 1 year of fortnightly treatment when on bush/northerly trips) we found our Pug developed a reaction to Advantix which would cause him to scratch his flank near where the Advantix had been applied to his back. This scratching increased such that it would last up to 3 or 4 days after treatment. Though it was not constant scratching, it was certainly not his normal behaviour.

 

We swapped him across to Frontline Plus for three months and there was no scratching after Frontline Plus was applied. On the fourth month we gave him Advantix and he again started scratching, though only for less than a day.

 

So for the next 12mths he gets Frontline Plus and we will review with the thought of using Advantix whilst travelling and Frontline Plus when at home in Melbourne suburbs.


 I should imagine that a pug is particularly at risk because of all those deep folds of skin.  But really, I've always had dogs no matter where I lived and the only place I have ever had a problem is in the tropical rainforest areas. I currently have home base north of Bundaberg, and although this is said to be in the tick area, there are so many rabbits and hares I can't imagine that paralysis ticks are common.  And my two iggys have certainly never picked one up even though they roam my acres at will.  Just take precautions and enjoy. If you worry too much you won't gobiggrin



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BruDi wrote:

Hi Colin 'n' Susan,

Thanks so much for that link. I've given it a quick once over but will print it off and take it with us. I'll also read it with greater deliberation tomorrow. I'll also make sure we have all of the recommended sprays, items, whatever. She's a pretty special little dog for us and we want her to be safe. We don't want to leave her at home for 3 months, especially as she is so young and also especially as we want her with us and we're sure she'll also be much happier that way.

Is a Silkese a cross between a Silky and a Maltese?

Just thought. I think I'll print off all the answers here too.

Di


 Sorry Di I just now saw your question! Yes, a Silkese is a cross between a Silky and a Maltese :) Our dog is almost three now and weighs just under 5kgs. We love him to bits. And so far, he has not had a tick.



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Colin 'n' Susan,

I actually replied to this yesterday and it hasn't appeared so I guess it's flying around in outer space.

Your little guy is gorgeous. He has a Silky face, albiet white.

I know what you mean about loving him to bits. Pippa has ensured that's how we feel about her too. We spent almost a year without a dog as our previous Silky went to the Bridge in February last year. We did not get another dog for quite some time as we were travelling and were going overseas. Once we picked Pippa up our lives felt quite different. They add a whole new dimension to your life; a very good one.

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Glad you got my msg, Di. So sorry to hear about the loss of your previous Silky. Glad you have Pippa now though. I so agree about dogs making our lives feel quite different in a good way.

Thanks for your nice feedback about our little guy's picture :)

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Haven't had to try this myself, so can't say it definitely works, but it's a tip I picked up somehwere on Cape York.

Paralysis Tick Remedy.

6-10 drops of Iodine in one Tablespoon of Milk, as soon as the Tick has been removed.

Would love to know if it really works.

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Sheba,

Is it drunk or is it applied to the wound?

I'd need a wine! :)

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