Oils aint Oils

Mr Red · Veteran Member

Oils aint Oils

justcruisin01 · Guru

Dont own a mazda but I do all my own services, I switched to the penriteHPR 20/50 for the old tug about 12 mths back as I was not happy with the amount of oil consumpion with the previous brand, this reduced the usage by 50% so happy with that.

JC.

rockylizard · Guru

Mr Red wrote:
Hi,
This question is aimed at Mazda BT 50 owners. What brand and grade of engine oil does your dealer use? Or have you changed to your preferred brand, I am undecided whether to use Valvoline Synpower env c2 5w 30 or Penrite hpr5 10 40.
Also do you change your own Oil and Filters.

John

Gday...

My only advice would be to ensure you do not choose/use an oil that is below the standard the manufacturer has stipulated in the Owner's Handbook Specifications.

You can use a 'higher rated' (more modern) oil but it would be unwise to use an oil that does not meet the minimum standard required. As your post has stated "Oils ain't Oils".

If the manufacturer stipulates an oil with a viscosity of 5w30 (for instance) at a particular Australian Standard (the specs in the Owner's Manual will state it) then I would not use an oil rated as 10w40 irrespective of the brand or 'people's recommendation'.

Cheers - John

Scotty01 · Senior Member

I have used nothing but Penrite Oils, both in my business as Mechanic and in my own vehicles, excelent quality lubricants, With all late model engines it is imperative that ONLY the manufacturers viscosity and spec be used reguardless of manufacturer.

bill12 · Guru

You should try to find the oil filter in some of theae new diesels. You lift the bonnet, and are confronted by acres of plastic.Entertaining, if you don,t have the book! Bill

-- Edited by bill12 on Friday 1st of March 2013 06:47:04 AM

hako · Guru

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the BT50 have a diesel engine? - if so then you should be using a diesel oil such as Nulon diesel formula engine oil 5W30 or the Penrite HPR diesel version. The oils you quote are for petrol engines and do not have all the extra detergents etc that diesel oils have.
By the way, I've changed all oils/filters etc on all my cars for the last 54 years and despite all the computers and whizzbang gimmickry in new cars, the sump plug is still in the bottom of the sump and the filter unscrews the same way meaning that it is very simple and cost effective to DIY.
Good Luck.

Scotty01 · Senior Member

bill12 is exactly right and in somecases if you dont have the correct tool for get it! Hako , have a look at some new engines they are going back to the old style cartridge filters not just spin off spin on.

Big Gorilla · Guru

When I had the first service in my Iveco Diesel, I almost fell over when I saw the oil price, $16.00 a liter. The brand is Urania, imported from Europe by Iveco Dealers, which is the recommended oil in the owner's Handbook..It's a fully synthetic oil..... Now for the good news... Time between oil changes is 40,000 km.

grandpabob · Senior Member

I have a BT 50 2010 3l 4x4 Diesel. The dealer used Castrol Edge full synthetic, I have since changed to Valvoline Synpower 5w40.

I change every 5K when towing and 10 when not. Unfortunately for the back pocket the not does not happen that often.

The best advice will come from your owners manual. Did you get the 5cylinder??

lkgr · Member

Mr Red - Go to Penrite oils, my auto centre only uses Penrite oil in all vehicles that he services unless individual customers bring their own brand of oil to be used. My auto centre has been servicing servicing my two(2) vehicles since 2003 with penrite . Cruiser - diesel, Commodore - gas?petrol. Larry

landy · Guru

Most, if not all modern diesel vehicles are fitted with a diesel particulate filter,(in the exhaust I believe) . This can be blocked by the use of the wrong diesel oil. A couple of years ago I had a lucky escape when I nearly found this out the hard way. A so called reputable spare parts shop sold me the wrong grade of diesel oil for a modern Hyundai. According to my mechanic replacement dpf filters can cost $6000 to $7000. Oils Really aint Oils.

Landy

KFT · Guru

I went looking for the correct oil for my nissan V6 TD which according to the manual is supposed to be 5W-30 ACEA-C4

and the only one I could find meeting that spec was Penrite Enviro+C4 and at $150 for 10L at supercheapy it is not a cheap oil by any means.

So I have ordered it and it should be here in 2 weeks.

I will have the time now to have a look about and see if I can get better price elsewhere.

frank

Ray Vonn · Newbie

I would personally use Penrite 5w-40 HPR5 or Valvoline SYNpower 5w-40, there maybe other 5w-40 oils in full synthetic worth considering.

The upper grade of 40 performs better than 30 under extreme temperature and service applications.

Baz421 · Guru

Here's some good info.

Basic info

http://www.driverstechnology.co.uk/oils.htm

Plus this one.

CJ-4

Introduced in 2006 for high-speed four-stroke engines. Designed to meet 2007 on-highway exhaust emission standards. CJ-4 oils are compounded for use in all applications with diesel fuels ranging in sulphur content up to 500ppm (0.05% by weight). However, use of these oils with greater than 15ppm sulfur fuel may impact exhaust after treatment system durability and/or oil drain intervals. CJ-4 oils are effective at sustaining emission control system durability where particulate filters and other advanced after treatment systems are used. CJ-4 oils exceed the performance criteria of CF-4, C-4, AH-4 and C-4.

Plus this one also.

C1, C2, C3 and C4

For use in high performance car and light commercial petrol and diesel engines, with diesel particulate filter, three-way catalyst and / or requiring low viscosity, low friction, catalyst compatible oils

Surprised you can't seem to readily source the oil.

Baz421 · Guru

Penrite stockists are here, just type in postcode.

http://www.penriteoil.com.au/au_locator.php?latitude=&longitude=&outlet_type=&id_products=&postcode=5046%5C