New Car Time.

Mr Red · Veteran Member

New Car Time.

PeterD · Guru

Have you read through the forum looking for threads on vehicles (you will find most of them in this sub-forum.) Also use the search function at the top. Your question is not particularly specific to get the info you require. When you have read some more you can come back with some more specific questions. For instance what style vehicle are you looking for? Sedan, station wagon, 4WD, twin cab ute?

Nomad246 · Senior Member

PeterD wrote: ~~~ Without reading first ~~~
Your question is not particularly specific to get the info you require. When you have read some more you can come back with some more specific questions. For instance what style vehicle are you looking for? Sedan, station wagon, 4WD, twin cab ute?

I've concluded that "grey" nomads refer to the brain being dead and grey, not grey hair. Another case in the continual RTFQ syndrome. All you Guru's are doing is puting new members off posting.

G'day Mr Red,

Your question is fine, literate and conclusive of a question.

The utility vehicles you have looked at are all more than capable of towing an Avan with load space to burn in the tray. I've never had a ute as personal transport but have had the Toyota, Holden and Ford in my business fleet. If you're not looking for 4wd you could add the Crewman also.

My preference for capital outlay and running cost is the Ford in 4wd diesel, or the Holden Crewman on gas if you need more of a highway car.

Cheers

goldcoaster · Senior Member

I have to agree with you Nomad246 about putting new members off posting,this also applies to old members as well.

Sorry to hijack your post MR Red,my mate has just bought the Mazda Bt 50 and loves it,he tows a large van.

Arald and Desleigh · Veteran Member

Hello Mr Red,

We also have the new Mazda BT50 and are more than happy with it. It is economical and has more power than you will need. Tows our van really well

Peter

Nomad246 · Senior Member

goldcoaster wrote: ~~~ In Part ~~~
I have to agree with you Nomad246 about putting new members off posting,this also applies to old members as well.

Thanks Goldcoaster, agreed a lot of long time members must also avoid posting due to the serves they get for asking a question, which is most often caused by not reading the question.

Hope Mr Red can get a lot of valuable feedback for his question and help him with his big dollar decision

Cheers

tcp99 · Senior Member

Nomad246 wrote:
PeterD wrote: ~~~ Without reading first ~~~
Your question is not particularly specific to get the info you require. When you have read some more you can come back with some more specific questions. For instance what style vehicle are you looking for? Sedan, station wagon, 4WD, twin cab ute?
I've concluded that "grey" nomads refer to the brain being dead and grey, not grey hair. Another case in the continual RTFQ syndrome. All you Guru's are doing is puting new members off posting.

Yeah but you're the guy who went and bought those evil nitrogen tyres. When the world ends next month it'll be all your fault
Terry

Nomad246 · Senior Member

tcp99 wrote:
Yeah but you're the guy who went and bought those evil nitrogen tyres. When the world ends next month it'll be all your fault
Terry
G'day Terry welcome back to posting,
The tyres aren't evil, I'm evil, and it's always my fault that keeps things simple.
Cheers

tcp99 · Senior Member

I thought I noticed an evil glint in your eye at Green'sLake.

oldboar · Senior Member

Go the BT-50. My brother has been towing a 19'6 en-suite Avan full time for the past four years with his without a hiccup. Just bought the latest model myself & hardly knew my new Coromal 22' (just over 2 tonne) was behind it from Nowra to Gulgong. Only got below 5th gear on one hill coming up the range. Ranger is essentially the same vehicle apart from cosmetic differences but in our area $10k dearer for the 4WD XL.

Darrell & Sandra

Carl53 · Member

Mr Red,

I also have the new BT50 - very happy. I considered the same alternatives you mentioned and went with the Mazda for the following reasons:-

a) Colorado - 4 cylinders only - Mazda has 5.

b) Isuzu - Lower torque output.

c) Hilux - smaller cab space ie narrower and higher price.

d) Ford - As oldboar said, Ford are charging $5 - $10k more for a very similar car and at the time they had no stock.

We tow a Coromal 615 at approx 2.2t loaded. Happy with economy, power to spare, comfortable. Only issue - was very noisy on cold mornings until warmed up. Dealer found a patch at Mazda and all fixed.

Cheers

PeterD · Guru

Carl53 wrote:
a) Colorado - 4 cylinders only - Mazda has 5.

What's wrong with 5 cylinders? Don't you like a motor that's smoother than a 4 cylinder one?

I had the Disco Td5 back when I could afford Land Rover Discos. It was a great motor. Way ahead of the earlier 300 series 4 cylkinder in the D1.

Nomad246 · Senior Member

PeterD wrote: ~~~ Without reading first AGAIN ~~~
Carl53 wrote:
a) Colorado - 4 cylinders only - Mazda has 5.
What's wrong with 5 cylinders? Don't you like a motor that's smoother than a 4 cylinder one?
I had the Disco Td5 back when I could afford Land Rover Discos. It was a great motor. Way ahead of the earlier 300 series 4 cylkinder in the D1.

Firstly, Congrats Carl53, your post is what Mr Red has asked for, a clear and concise opinion of what you had experienced that led to your BT50 purchase (with 5 cylinders)

PeterD,,, this is the second time in Mr Reds post that you have not read, or understood what is written. You choose to challenge Newbie Carl when he has clearly stated he chose a 5 cylinder over a Colorado with 4.

As a Guru you should be fostering, encouraging and setting an example to new members of the forum, yet you challenge and belittle them.

My view is you should be banned as a warning for others with your antisocial behaviour.

rockylizard · Guru

Nomad246 wrote:
PeterD wrote: ~~~ Without reading first AGAIN ~~~
PeterD,,, this is the second time in Mr Reds post that you have not read, or understood what is written. You choose to challenge Newbie Carl when he has clearly stated he chose a 5 cylinder over a Colorado with 4.
As a Guru you should be fostering, encouraging and setting an example to new members of the forum, yet you challenge and belittle them.
My view is you should be banned as a warning for others with your antisocial behaviour.
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Gday..
Yep ... PeterD did misread the thread - but does it require slaps all around ? ?
However, Nomad, I provide the following quote from you on a previous thread .....
Nomad246 wrote:
Gee ,,, in the last quarter of a century I've owned,,, err 1 ,,, you have,,, what is it ,,, 7 bad choices,,, My 1st choice has afforded me the ultimate of fun and reliabilty,, yet you keep protesting you are a 'spurt' (drip under pressure). Pull your head in and avoid influencing others toward your bad choices and let us have an open mind to make the RIGHT choice. If this pressures you ,,,, I check my pressure every Saturday ,,, but I'm anal.
Koko ,,,, sorry to highjack your post,,, but there are some trolls that want it all their own way, without informed opinion,
Perhaps your comments are bit of the pot calling the kettle ???
Cheers - and happy posting - John

Nomad246 · Senior Member

rockylizard wrote: ~~~ In Part ~~~
Gday..
Yep ... PeterD did misread the thread - but does it require slaps all around ? ?
Perhaps your comments are bit of the pot calling the kettle ???

Thanks for jumping in with part of a previous post, you omitted to copy your belligerant written attitude preceeding the little slap you received. As I recall you "strongly" stated to advise a member of shortcomings, only to go on to state that you also have had issues. The more you went on to say in the post the more it was read as "do as I say, not do as I do".

You too suffer from RTFQ syndrome in your rush to post your reply in many posts that I just pass over without commenting.

Thanks to another Guru for taking the time to make new members feel really welcome and at ease with the site.

rockylizard · Guru

Gday...

Let me apologise Nomad ... I guess I need to bow to your greater wisdom and perceptiveness. I consider myself rightly chastised and will make every effort to ensure that any future post I either originate, or participate in, does not contain any of my apparent closed minded, belligerent attitudes and definitely will not offer any advice from my experience.

By a very small way of providing some clarity, the following was the "misguided, uninformed, belligerent advice" that has caused my character and opinions to be so soundly exposed.

Nomad - please go back and read my posts. Particularly, where I have agreed that Toyota (and Nissan for that matter) have an extensive dealer network Australia-wide and many mechanics, both trained and bush combined, can work on Cruisers (and Nissan for that matter).

You will see that, rather than "pushing the merits" of any particular brand of vehicle, I actually stated, perhaps poorly, that EVERY 4X4 is a good buy, and EVERY 4X4 can be stuck 'somewhere' waiting for a part.

At no time have I ever, in this thread or at anytime, tried to be a "spurt" - whether a 'drip under pressure' or so knowledgeable that I see any one 4X4 as the 'only one to buy'.

I did not, and would never, attempt to persuade, or try to influence, ANYONE to purchase any model of 4X4 I have owned. I was attempting to, in fact, point out that, each 4X4 purchase is the decision of the indiidual to meet THEIR personal needs, requirements, budget and usage.

I am sorry you have failed to read and absorb my posts as being broad in advice, rather than prescribing any particular choice. Perhaps, my choice of words, or lack of full explanation, in the above thread has muddied the waters from your perspective.

My apologies are also extended to any forumite who has been forced to suffer my ill-informed advice in any previous post. There will be little opportunity to be exposed to such advice from me again.

Cheers and happy travelling - John

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