Drinking water Cecil Plains

Happywanderer · The Master

Drinking water Cecil Plains

milo · Guru

might be an idea to buy a couple of those water bottles/containers that you see at wollies...

a few places we have been have had dodgy smelling water.. lucky i drink lemonade!!

Cupie · Guru

Assuming that you are talking about tap water ........

It is my understanding that reticulated water is constantly monitored for quality.

A goggle search revealed this ...

"DERM regulate water supply activities under the Water Supply
(Safety and Reliability) Act 2008. This includes the provision of
drinking water quality by drinking water service providers. They
administer monitoring and reporting requirement notices &
Drinking Water Management Plans.
Health encourages water supplied to meet the ADWG & samples
& tests for compliance with these Guidelines."

So Cecil Plains reticulated water should be OK.

Maybe you should report your experience to them.

You may have stumbled across an effective weight loss method. I would like to loose 7kg but the pain might not be worth the gain (or loss in this case).

ChrisandPeter · Senior Member

We were at Cecil Plains in September and on the advice of a couple of other travelers at the camp we filled up with the water also.
We then used that water over the next week and had no "ill" effects.
The water didn't have any smell or sediment (we also filled a couple of jerrys).
As Cupie suggest maybe you should let them know!
Hope you are all better now.
Cheers
Chris and Peter

Gerty Dancer · Guru

What did you eat that evening when you arrived at Echuca Marj? Maybe it wasnt the C.Plains water. Or maybe it was a combination of things, you were pretty stressed.

Glad to hear you have come good, it lasted too long.

Tea or coffee can be safer than ordinary water to drink inasmuch as the water is first boiled.

Happywanderer · The Master

milo wrote:
might be an idea to buy a couple of those water bottles/containers that you see at wollies...

a few places we have been have had dodgy smelling water.. lucky i drink lemonade!!

milo I do carry the water bottles but had run out, was doing a refill.

Happywanderer · The Master

Cupie wrote:
Assuming that you are talking about tap water ........
It is my understanding that reticulated water is constantly monitored for quality.
A goggle search revealed this ...
"DERM regulate water supply activities under the Water Supply
(Safety and Reliability) Act 2008. This includes the provision of
drinking water quality by drinking water service providers. They
administer monitoring and reporting requirement notices &
Drinking Water Management Plans.
Health encourages water supplied to meet the ADWG & samples
& tests for compliance with these Guidelines."

So Cecil Plains reticulated water should be OK.

Maybe you should report your experience to them.
You may have stumbled across an effective weight loss method. I would like to loose 7kg but the pain might not be worth the gain (or loss in this case).

Thanks cupie, sounds ok with all that info. I bet I put the weight back on just as quick too.

Happywanderer · The Master

ChrisandPeter wrote:
We were at Cecil Plains in September and on the advice of a couple of other travelers at the camp we filled up with the water also.
We then used that water over the next week and had no "ill" effects.
The water didn't have any smell or sediment (we also filled a couple of jerrys).
As Cupie suggest maybe you should let them know!
Hope you are all better now.
Cheers
Chris and Peter

Thats what I was told by the couple who were filling up Chris and Peter, all the nomading public use the water, didn't expect there to be any problems, so can't have been that , just a series of eliminations. The water did taste great, tasted it before filling my bottles.

Happywanderer · The Master

Gerty Dancer wrote:
What did you eat that evening when you arrived at Echuca Marj? Maybe it wasnt the C.Plains water. Or maybe it was a combination of things, you were pretty stressed.

Glad to hear you have come good, it lasted too long.

Tea or coffee can be safer than ordinary water to drink inasmuch as the water is first boiled.

Trying to eliminate possiblities Gerty as have no idea what caused it and only just coming right.

Had chinese takeaway for tea, which was my first thought. Checked the shop, doesn't use msg. Thought it might be the A2 milk daughter uses, but unlikely. The chemist I saw said it could be a combination of stress and something I ate.

The day before I left I had 14 stitches out of my back, so that was uncomfortable. Stress was certainly on the agenda. Felt good till the last day before I arrived here.

Who knows, probably never know. Still on boiled chicken, rice with beans and broccoli. Apples, savoy crackers and boiled water.

jules47 · The Happy Helper

7kg loss - whew - that would also be contributing to not feeling well - lost too much weight quickly!

jimricho · Guru

My medical knowledge is very limited but I think that weight lost would mostly be dehydration which is normal in cases of severe diarrhoea and/or vomiting. It is important to rehydrate with plenty of water. After a severe illness such as that it will take time to recover.

My suspicion would be food rather than water. One of the most common causes of food poisoning is poor temperature control of the food. Food should be kept either below 5c or above 60c. Food temperature issues and cross-contamination (ie contamination of cooked food by uncooked food) cause much more cases of food poisoning than does a dirty kitchen.

My reference here is having volunteered in a Meals on Wheels kitchen were food poisoning issues were of uppermost importance when supplying meals to frail and aged clients.

Happywanderer · The Master

I'm thinking the same thing Jimricho. It has to be food, just can't work out exactly what.
I am using hydrolytes in drink to rehydrate, oh I'm sure the weight will go back on. lol

jimricho · Guru

Marj, it may be that your take-away had cooled down into the danger range below 60c for long enough for the bugs to multiply to a dangerous level. Even if the food were initially prepared in a kitchen that strictly observed proper food handling practice, food poisoning is still a risk if the temperature drops into the danger range after it leaves the kitchen. To give you an idea, if you put your hand in water at 60c you will pull it out very quickly as it will feel damn hot.

The "luck of the draw" can apply here as we've probably all been less than diligent in this regard many times and got away with it.

Getting back to Meals on Wheels, we went to considerable lengths to ensure that hot meals were kept hot when they were being delivered including putting a recording temperature probe into one of the last meals to be delivered and the data downloaded to a computer to keep a record of the temperature of the delivered food.

wishing you a speedy recovery,

Jim

-- Edited by jimricho on Monday 12th of November 2012 07:24:35 AM

Cupie · Guru

jimricho wrote:
Marj, it may be that your take-away had cooled down into the danger range below 60c for long enough for the bugs to multiply to a dangerous level. Even if the food were initially prepared in a kitchen that strictly observed proper food handling practice, food poisoning is still a risk if the temperature drops into the danger range after it leaves the kitchen. To give you an idea, if you put your hand in water at 60c you will pull it out very quickly as it will feel damn hot.

The "luck of the draw" can apply here as we've probably all been less than diligent in this regard many times and got away with it.

Getting back to Meals on Wheels, we went to considerable lengths to ensure that hot meals were kept hot when they were being delivered including putting a recording temperature probe into one of the last meals to be delivered and the data downloaded to a computer to keep a record of the temperature of the delivered food.

wishing you a speedy recovery,

Jim

-- Edited by jimricho on Monday 12th of November 2012 07:24:35 AM

Thanks Jim for your info on food handling.

I for one found it of great value.

Will try to practice what you have said.

G

jimricho · Guru

Cupie wrote:

Thanks Jim for your info on food handling.
I for one found it of great value.
Will try to practice what you have said.

G

Mate there are times when I should practise what I've said myself! biggrin biggrin

Jim

jules47 · The Happy Helper

We're all in that category Jim - luck of the draw, as you say.

Happywanderer · The Master

Have an appointment at the doctors this arvo 3pm after trying a banana for breakfast. Not good. I'm sick of this.

wendyv · Guru

Was there chicken in your Chinese take-away? Improperly cooked/reheated chicken is a huge culprit in food poisoning events.

jimricho · Guru

That's a good move to see your doctor (to state the obvious). hope you're soon on the mend.

Jim

jimricho · Guru

Digressing slightly, I came across this "news" story about washing chicken just now...http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/food/stop-dont-wash-that-chicken/story-fneuz8zj-1226515208420

Gerty Dancer · Guru

Thank you jim, I'm guilty of chicken-washing, though I've always dried it with paper towels. Same with fish. Hmmm.
Hope you are ok very soon Marj!

jimricho · Guru

I can say that I'm not guilty of chicken washing but I have to admit that was because I'm fundamentally a slack ba***rd. wink

Another common source of cross-contamination is taking meat to the barbecue or camp kitchen and using the same plate to serve it onto when cooked. By comparison even a dirty barbecue cooking surface is safe as the heat effectively sterilises it.

Happywanderer · The Master

wendyv wrote:
Was there chicken in your Chinese take-away? Improperly cooked/reheated chicken is a huge culprit in food poisoning events.

I can't remember now wendy, there was a mixture of dishes.

Been to doctor, having blood tests and taking in sample tomorrow, then see doc again on Friday. Drink more water with hydralytes as still very dehydrated.

jules47 · The Happy Helper

Keep us posted Marj - and take care of yourself!!

jimricho · Guru

Take care Marj

glassies · Guru

Hi marg ,

I did hear that rice is one of the worst to get food poisoning
I once had food poisoning from chinese i could not even bare to smell
It i had it that bad ,hope you are on the mend xxx big hug from me to you

Happywanderer · The Master

Yes Della, one of the dishes was fried rice. Certainly could have been that.

Its leaning toward Gardia at the moment, just the docs guess, won't know for sure till the test results come back.

wendyv · Guru

If it is Giardia, then that usually comes from contaminated water - sorry to tell you this, but usually sewage contamination! Or. I guess, from someone with Giardia handling food without washing hands.
It can take ages to fully get rid of, unfortunately. Daughter picked up a dose when hiking in Nepal and I think she kept getting bouts of it for over a year.

Happywanderer · The Master

I googled it wendy and thats what I read too. I hope its not. Have felt really good today and walked all over town. A case of having to after Myrtle went to the doctors and no other way to get into town. Thought it might have knocked me for 6. Was b...........d when I got there so went for a very weak cappachino, which didn't affect me. But did get the runs later in the arvo.
Was able to get a lift home with daughter who had been at mothers group.

jan-ed · Veteran Member

When i first moved up to the Gold Coast about 18 years ago, i got really sick. Kept going to different doctors who kept telling me it was "the change in water"

I was about to move back to Geelong i was that sick.!! It continued for over a month, i could hardly walk i was so weak from not eating. I finally found a great doctor
who told me to get some "Inner Health" and within a couple of days i started to improve.

This particular doctor told me he always started a course of this before he travelled overseas because of the dodgy water !!

Good luck HW at the doctors tomorrow, i hope you feel better soon. A good dose of "Green's Lake" will do wonders for you when you feel up to it, its a terrific place.