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Herpetologist needed.


Picture 016.jpg  Ok all you snake lovers.  I had to kill one the other day, but am having trouble identifying it.   Thought at first it was either a Black Whip, or a Tree Snake, but it doesn't look quite like any of the ones in the books I have here.

Can you identify it please ?  Rear half of underbelly is Grey/pink.  Ivory front half, with a small Yellow/orange stripe on the lower jaw.  Very black on top, and head very shiny.   5 ft.long.

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Sheba.



-- Edited by Sheba on Saturday 21st of April 2012 08:44:06 AM

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When I read your heading Sheba, I thought "Why, whose got herpes"? Sorry.

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No worries Marj.  Gave me a good laugh to start the day. 

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My son is taking his kids to the reptile park today but I won't be going as have plumber here fixing all the downstairs faults.
I could have taken my laptop with me and asked them to identify the snake.

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I googled and can't find anything.

Sorry.

You could send the pics to the Australian Reptile Park (NSW) or any zoo for identification.

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Only problem is they may not be happy it is a dead snake. (But I'm glad for you.)

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A young one , python family keep the skin make a nice pair of shoes for yourself lol

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Definitely not a Python Lynette.

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Definetely longer than 5 feet Sheba, looks at least 5 metres to me.

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Just looks that long 'cause I got up really close, as it was dead.

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Finally found the Qld. Museum site, so I've sent the Pics. off to them for identification.

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OMG i have snakes where I live, have never killed one,just get out of their way, you are so brave!!!!!!!!!!!
yes and i thought herpes, so had a laugh when I read happywanderer!!!

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it does look like a black headed python. They grow to about 21/2 metrs. they are cream under neath with a reddish tinge in the back end.you never said where you are, they are from gladstone north. Or believe it or not it could be a green tree snake, they can vary in colour to jet black. they grow to about 1.5 mtr. midly venemous. they start from just south of sydney.
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I have seen Blackheaded Pythons, and there are quite a few Green Tree Snakes here as well.  About 2 hours drive north of Rockhampton.

It looks like neither of them, believe me.  The Blackheaded Python is just that.  The head is black, and the rest of the body a different colour.

The Green Tree Snake has a different shaped head.

I brought my Snake book back from home yesterday, and I can't find anything like it in that one either.

So that's 5 different Snake Books, and the Internet I've searched so far, and can't find one like it.

Haven't heard from the Museum yet.

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You might have found a new species of snake Sheba. They could name it after you.


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I doubt it Marj.  Would be nice though, especially seeing I'm a Snake in the Chinese Astrology System. 

"My"Quoll won't be named after me, as nobody in Officialdom will be bothered looking for it.

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-- Edited by Sheba on Saturday 28th of April 2012 07:58:47 AM

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looks like a slightly out f shape hoop snake to me.

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have a look at the scale pattern head etc in this pic of a much younger snake see what you think
snake colouring should always be ignored it varies in many species from area to area http://www.wildlifeqld.com.au/Common_Tree_Snake.html I think this is probably the same, its at the largest size I have seen but I have seen them nearly as big and picked them up. Negligable to no venom and they have back facing fangs. but at that size nearly a record. There is a northern variety also. Will check furthur though. Its the first pic that is very similar it will enlarge if you click on it



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Huh well im a zoologist and have done herpetology and at first glance its a hard one to pin down. Where did you kill it? Are you near water? The big eye is suggestive of a non venomous type. I hannot see heat pits along the side of the head,  were there circles in a line going back just below thw jaw, like large pores. If not then not a python. i will endeavour to check furthur for you as soon as I can. Was it found on the ground or up high? have an idea but wont say till sure ill have a look as soon as

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read my other posts but beware- The first thing they teach in Herpetology is NEVER use the colour of a specimen to id it you need to look at things like the head shape scale distribution etc



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I have pics and info on a far number of wildlife species here magneticisland.s4space.com.au

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Yeh after some checking, without counting scales or seeing clearly the top of the head scale pattern i am 95% sure your pics are of a very old green tree snake from the distinctive ridge extending along outer edges of belly and the size and shape of the eye compared to the head size and general size and shape of scaling. Its an unusual colour morph. if you see another just chase it with the broom most snakes do not return after being hassled by people



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Me again just sent pics to my herpetology lecturer and got a conformation on the green tree snake id



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Hi aj.  Sorry, I forgot to update re. Museum Identification.  They said Tree Snake too.

 I normally just chase snakes away, as I hate having to kill them.  My friend freaks out every time I tell her I've swept another one out of the way, as I do it even with Taipans.  She made her husband make me a snake wire, but I've never used that one yet.

This one however, was in a bedroom, where I was just going to have a rest, with 5 Chihuahuas already on the bed.  It was at the head of the bed near the pillows, and I couldn't take a chance on it not being venomous in case either me or one of them got bitten.

Thanks for your input.

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Sheba.

 



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fair enough?

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