I have just fitted an hydrogen generator to my 1990 3.9 v8 Range Rover that has petrol and lpg already,I have done 150Ks around town so far since fitting and seem to be getting the same economy as when highway cruising on lpg and have a lot more power.
Q: How much will I save? A: Some older vehicles can get around 30 to 40% savings.
You mean like a model T Ford? Yeah, right.
Q: Will the HHO system hurt my battery? A: The hho dry cell System requires a very small amount of energy to operate: 10 - 15 amps max, about the same as the average car stereo.
12V alternators are rated for about 40A to 60A. The "average" car stereo uses maybe 1A at most. A power consumption of 10A @ 14V would equate to 140 watts.
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These hydrogen generators are a con. They work on the same theory as perpetual motion. Total rubbish. It is easy to argue that in theory they should work except for the fact that it takes just as much energy to generate the hydrogen as the hydrogen contributes when it is burned. That is like expecting the car battery to be able to power the car.
Hydrogen can be used for improving the economy of an internal combustion engine by injecting about 5% directly into the fuel intake, but it isn't simply because your are getting any appreciable energy from that small amount of hydrogen. It is because the hydrogen helps burn the petrol or diesel more efficiently. But it is a very precise engineering design and these backyard idiots who con people with their silly gadgets are not capable of understanding the process, let alone providing the precision of control required to obtain the required outcome.
An Australian company, Eden Energy http://www.edenenergy.com.au/ which is listed on the ASX and has operations in USA is making modifications to diesel engines for the Indian market to use in their buses and power generation equipment. The result is lower carbon emissions, higher power output and less fuel consumption. Eden energy have spent millions of dollars and many years refining the process, so don't expect anything from a back yard operator with a story that everyone wants to believe.
-- Edited by Clyde Camel on Wednesday 21st of March 2012 08:28:33 PM
I have actually set a HHO Generator (with 21 plates) on my Holden Barina - model with 1300 cc engine, from Suzuki Swift. After fitting it, instead of some 6l/100 km, she used only 3,8 l/100 in the country drive, and some 4.8 to 5.5 in the city driving. And the system was not exactly well fitted, as I was in rush to try it, and later left it all like that...
But, according to some people it is a con. But it is also true, as I so far found out. They usually themselves never tried themselves to do it, but relay mainly on the opinionated point of view of others - mainly the heavily biased mass media, and so called "professionals" - who most often don't even quite know what it is about, but feel entitled to put the weight of their "learned opinion" into the equasion. So far, mainly trial and error kept making the world working well, but since the "learned" theories took over, they only make the world bleed swet and blood, so far. It is the ones who are not afraid to try new things, who win, and for that matter sometime a lot...
-- Edited by Esperian on Sunday 4th of November 2012 12:36:12 AM
-- Edited by Esperian on Sunday 4th of November 2012 12:37:48 AM
Q: How much will I save? A: Some older vehicles can get around 30 to 40% savings.
You mean like a model T Ford? Yeah, right.
Q: Will the HHO system hurt my battery? A: The hho dry cell System requires a very small amount of energy to operate: 10 - 15 amps max, about the same as the average car stereo.
12V alternators are rated for about 40A to 60A. The "average" car stereo uses maybe 1A at most. A power consumption of 10A @ 14V would equate to 140 watts.
I have actually set one like this (with 21 plates) on my Holden Barina - model with 1300 cc engine, from Suzuki Swift. After fitting it, instead of some 6l/100 km, she used only 3,8 l/100 in the country drive, and some 4.8 to 5.5 in the city driving. And the system was not exactly well fitted, as I was in rush to try it, and later left it all like that... According to the line - if it works, why bother with more work :) It is actually true, that the savings are quite good. but I can't say how it would work on other cars. So far I didn't have opportunity to try on my present car. I think of fitting it later on my Honda CRV, that I have now. The only problem is, to fit it in her, I need an EFFIE, as she's a fuel injected car, and with all this fancy new staff I hate a lot, but have to put up with... And this ( EFFIE) is about 120 bucks, which I got to save first, before being able to refit it all to the vehicle. My poor Barina was crashed by drunk truck driver, some months back, so she got her well deserved rest in the junk yard. But, in all this, lucky me to get out of it with just couple of light scratches.
So. HHO works, and it is well worth to do it. But one needs to know how to fit it, and have a determination to do try, too.
