We just can't stop people doing it!!

pipes · Senior Member

We just can't stop people doing it!!

dabbler · Guru

Most official reports and surveys would say littering in general is decreasing as the years progress. Keep Aust Beautiful do a wide survey annually and they inducate proportions of waste materials is relatively unchanging and glass & plastic bottles are still the most common. We just notice nappies and toilet more often. Litter in general, is far less prevalent than 30-40 years ago. Doesn't matter is it's changed in nature, people don't change easily.

oldbloke · Guru

IMO all toilet paper should have say 30% recycled paper and no bleach or dyes. Far more environmentally friendly.

I often go bush and come home with a few cans or plastic bottles. It's a simple formula. More people = more pigs.

-- Edited by oldbloke on Saturday 18th of August 2018 06:05:51 PM

Desert Dweller · Guru

Today we're camped surrounded by beautiful bushland in Outback NSW for 3 nights.

Tucked away out of sight off The Kidman Way south of Cobar near Nombinnie Nature Reserve. No-one but us & the animals, fantastic.

There are also piles of this stuff around. furious furious

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-- Edited by Desert Dweller on Sunday 19th of August 2018 02:11:26 PM

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

I picked would have to say tons of this rubbish when we did . Mt Gamier coast trip to Darwin then back down centre . I buried the toilet paper . Collected cans & plastic in big plastic bags and dropped off the nearest rubbish bin . Yes my worry was when was the bin getting emptied. Often leaving under . But I assumed better in one area .. The toilet paper absolutely disgusts me !! Like how hard is it to even put it Atleast under a rock ! Some think itâs funny doing it on parking area and leaving paper on top like a flag !! Just disgusting!! The Nullarbor is full of it .. Humans !!

JA2340 · Senior Member

It's a symptom, though, of the lack of care for anything that does not belong to them!
Happens at school where I work as well. Kids think it's hilarious to grab great handfuls of date roll and chuck it all around the place! Then, of course, they bitch and complain when there's none left when they need it!

IMO, comes from the parents not being prepared to discipline (or maybe being scared to do anything in case the kid calls the cops on them) - sorry. rant ends here!

rockylizard · Guru

Gday...

I think, very unfortunately, the subject heading of this thread says it all.

Been going on for as long as I have been on this earth and that is over 70 years. cry

From the first life appeared probably 3.7 billion years ago. But those times their littering is totally organic and naturally decomposable and recyclable. Things start to get wrong when human invented chemicals and plastics --- that is just around 100 years ago.

https://www.quora.com/When-did-littering-first-start

Cheers - John

-- Edited by rockylizard on Sunday 19th of August 2018 08:14:33 PM

The Belmont Bear · Guru

I have to agree with you Pipes I was driving up the north coast of NSW between Grafton and Ballina earlier this week and due to all the roadworks rest areas suitable for vans were few and far between. I finally found one just north of Woodburn that was set up with toilet, garbage bins, tables etc. While we were there having a short break I began to notice all the rubbish that was along the sides of the roads in the bush etc. mainly consisting of fast food containers, paper, cans and bottles. What it looked like to me was that people pulled in, cleaned out their cars and instead of walking the few extra metres to put the rubbish in the bin they just dumped it where they were parked. Im sure that most responsible travellers wouldnt do it but unfortunately we have to share this country with ferals who just dont care. As disgusting as it sounds I also noticed a disposable nappy that had been dumped there as well.....

Cheers

BB

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

Are the rubbish bins out there being emptied also ?? Note some bins had compost in the bottom . Have not been emptied properly for years !

Ron-D · Guru

I cant immagine graynomads in there Vans or decent young people as well doing this,people living on top of each other in there wiisbangs and out of cars there probably responsible,you can strike the accasonal grey thats a grub but its rare...

rockylizard · Guru

Gday...

You need to travel more Ron. cry

After 10 years observation on my full-time travelling I can assure you that all age groups, social standings, creed, colour, and apparent economic circumstances contribute to the littering that we all see along the roadsides and at the rest areas and camp spots.

Some young kids in tents through to well-heeled and well dressed large motorhome owners and 5th wheelers are amongst the offenders.

Cheers - John

Tony Bev · Guru

It is a problem, and I shall raise my hand and say, that I do not know the answer, except to do my bit, to clean the free site up, if I stay overnight

From the Grey Nomads of this forum, who I have met, I doubt if it is "us", who are the cause of the problem

"We" seem to be responsible type people

Kebbin · Guru

Its amazing just how many "Good People" couldn't give a stuff about anyone else. It's near impossible to pick someone as being good, bad or indifferent, the thing with presumption is your usually wrong. I have noticed that the old single fellow is usually the one singled out, but it's usually him picking up rubbish on the side of a walking track.

Ron-D · Guru

rockylizard wrote:
Gday...
You need to travel more Ron.
After 10 years observation on my full-time travelling I can assure you that all age groups, social standings, creed, colour, and apparent economic circumstances contribute to the littering that we all see along the roadsides and at the rest areas and camp spots.
Some young kids in tents through to well-heeled and well dressed large motorhome owners and 5th wheelers are amongst the offenders.
Cheers - John

Your right John 4 mths a year is not enough biggrin

dogbox · Guru

Ron-D wrote:

I cant immagine graynomads in there Vans or decent young people as well doing this,people living on top of each other in there wiisbangs and out of cars there probably responsible,you can strike the accasonal grey thats a grub but its rare...

not as rare as you would think but disposable nappies probably the longest lasting thing, the paper soon degrades or burns if a fire goes thru soon to be replace by a fresh crop. do you think more rubbish bins that get emptied would fix the problem?? the 10 cent refund might cutdown on the cans an bottles

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

Why I say rubbish bins not emptied ? It leads people into leaving it there .. on the SA / WA boarder on Stuart this bind are FULL and composed up nearly half the bin . Rubbish everywhere!! Why have the bins ?? I buried most the fruit , vegetation etc . Didnât take much . Years time there maybe apple, cherry, plumb trees growing out there ? Lol

Tony Bev · Guru

They are listening to you Pipes

smile Or they are reading this forum smile

Traveling north yesterday from my home town, on the southern approach to Perth there are electronic billboards

They say do not rubbish the roads, or words to that effect

Stopped on the side of the road south of Cavantes, there was rubbish but it was wet and windy, so I left it

Further up the road south of Dongera, the boss stopped for a ciggy break, so I cleaned up the parking bay

Tonight I am at the Geraldton free camp, (in Town) and can report that there is no rubbish

Birdo · Veteran Member

One of the worst things you can see,and we see it fairly regularly either at bush camps or wayside stops,is used disposable nappies left on the ground only meters from a bin.
Disgusting.
Cheers

Aus-Kiwi · Guru

To be fair ?? It could be birds or dingoes pulling them out of bin ? Why I often burry food and this wast ., Away from water ways under a rock .