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RE: displaced husbands on wheels.


Yes Jules its bloody sad that these things happen .. but rather than just accepting it happens. I guess the idea is to try to help, as the subject title suggests Disenfranchised fathers ,,† Of course that would also mean their kids ..,.,..

Im withdrawing from this subject now -- it is getting just too far off subject.

thanks to all who participated.

Oh and if you get to know any disenfranchised dads out there - wandering around or living in a van - let him know, the whole world is not against him....



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That s is hardly any different to singles forum . Just don‚t dwell too much on past and move on . Is what we found . Not that I‚ve been in that situation. Not being a nark ., If it helps anyone ?? All good ..

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yep aus kiwi - that's exactly the original intent of this discussion -`helping displaced disenfranchised men living in CARAVANS

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what Im up to?? Hey† I opened this discussion about dispossessed men living in caravans - which sits fairly in the realms of Grey Nomads.. Im not up to anything -- I didn't start the political discussion,... I don't direct the traffic!



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no I don't see that.. choosing to live in a caravan, and being forced to live in a caravan.... maybe two different things, but when a person moves into and uses a caravan as a home, whether on the road, or in a caravan park ( on a temporary basis)† qualifies them for being a "nomad" ,,, doesn't matter who you are -- ...† I'm not "forced" to live in a van ... I 'CHOOSE' to travel in a motorhome.† And I consider myself a Grey Nomad... now if I were a divorced/dispossessed man living in a caravan I'd still consider myself to be a grey nomad -- its wrong to suggest that because we choose the nomadic lifestyle, we are any more entitled to use the term "Grey Nomad" .



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no I don't see that.. choosing to live in a caravan, and being forced to live in a caravan.... maybe two different things, but when a person moves into and uses a caravan as a home, whether on the road, or in a caravan park ( on a temporary basis)† qualifies them for being a "nomad" ,,, doesn't matter who you are -- ...† I'm not "forced" to live in a van ... I 'CHOOSE' to travel in a motorhome.† And I consider myself a Grey Nomad... now if I were a divorced/dispossessed man living in a caravan I'd still consider myself to be a grey nomad -- its wrong to suggest that because we choose the nomadic lifestyle, we are any more entitled to use the term "Grey Nomad" .†


Gday...

Alan, I completely sympathise with you and all those you are an advocate for and I hope your crusade meets with success for those in the situations you are highlighting.

However, the statement/s above (my bolding) fly in the face of the actual meanings -

nomad n.
1. A member of a group of people who have no fixed home and move according to the seasons from place to place in search of food, water, and grazing land.
2. A person with no fixed residence who roams about; a wanderer.

grey nomad n
Australia - any elderly retired person who spends time travelling around the country in a mobile home

There is considerable difference between this -

Caravan Home 01.jpgCaravan Home 02.jpg

†.... and this -

Caravan Home 03.jpgCaravan Home 04.JPG

Cheers - John



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2. A person with no fixed residence who roams about; a wanderer. Your definition John .. not mine, and there are many many displaced men who fall under that banner. My statement stands.
Just a fine point.. I am not one of the displaced man to which I refer - Im happily single,. never married ( why would I?) and I dont describe myself as an "advocate" for these guys, (as they've never asked me to be one) ... However I just believe they are part of our community who deserve some support ...



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Gday...

I apologise if I am reading your comments incorrectly, but don't be shy, or embarrassed, about what you are trying to do for these folk.

Your comments on this thread indeed paint you as an advocate - something to be proud of I'd say.†

Regarding how to 'classify' their lifestyles, I guess we will agree to disagree.

Cheers - John†



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I remember in my younger days, I was involved in an interview with a fellow, the owner of the firm asked why he wasn't married. His reply, "why buy a book when you can join a library"!

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Iam very happy with my book†biggrin



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Is there any problem with what newslug is suggesting? Simply, that we look out for one another and in a practical way.

au.movember.com/mens-health/mental-health

It is ok, laudable, that individuals take the initiative to look out for others. It is a civic duty, or it once used to be. Being proactive is a good thing. Why wait for someone to be exhibiting obvious signs of distress before extending courtesy? To challenge the, 'I'm all right Jack, pull up the ladder' attitude that seems to be more common and should not be.

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Gday...

https://www.ruok.org.au/

Cheers - John



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Leo† thanks for your comment . great to see some people actually think a little before they jump into the deep end.† Truly appreciate your comments ..† and yes - while im not an advocate for men -- I have had some advocacy† experience - regarding prostate cancer - and the appalling funding arrangements for prostate cancer research, compared with funding for breast cancer ,,, it just seems men are considered to be disposable and of little worth, in some quarters --- given that more men die from prostate cancer each year ( in Australia alone,† average of 3000) far more than women dying as a result of breast cancer,† it all seems just a bit "one sided" ....but THIS is not a new thread for this discussion group ... I was just 'saying" ...



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John (rockylizard)

A useful link.† Where is that thumbs-up icon when I need it?

newslug,

Prostate exams/cancer. For some weeks, gone now, there were some small leaflets in public toilets in a privately owned shopping centre near to where I have been staying.† It was a good initiative.† You regularly hear of men who have left action too late, so some cancers are aggressive.



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John .. yes.. I' ve been through that mill, thanks to a good GP who suggested I undergo the test. ( PSA ) and on going tests .... and the oncology ward at Royal Brisbane and Women's Hospital ... I have been ( touch wood) free of this cancer for nearly 5 years .. I have to have another psa test in july this year, and if thats all good, no more appointments to see doctors for 3 years.! Yaaay... I dont know why guys dont get themselves tested though some comments back to me from some men makes me wonder if they're worth saving!~ Silly comments -- they think Im questioing their sexuality, and that prostate cancer is some kind of "gay" disease ...I shake my head in amazement that some people can be so bloody stupid .
as for the leaflets ?? they were probably left by the local branch of the prostate cancer support group --- but removed by management who had the same common sense as the men I referred to above... It happens, sadly....



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newslug,

I wasn't aware of the group, so I looked it up,

www.prostate.org.au/support/find-a-support-group/

Also has some groups for partners which is good.

It is disappointing if the small informative cards I saw in the 'men's' at the shopping centre are not there now because of some bureaucrat/complaint. I noted that the cards were being taken and read because restocking seemed to be a regular event and none were seen in the open refuse bin.

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well thats promising Leo that people actually take the information.
I joined the prostate cancer support group in Maroochydore it is meant for affected men and their partners regardless of sexuality . and whats said at the group meetings STAYS at the group meetings ... they were getting crowds of a hundred or more, in Maroochydore ... so larger centres should be getting big crowds as well ,.,'
Its actually destablished under the support of the Queensland Cancer Council but don't tell the feminists, or they'll have it shut down'.... they want all the cancer research money spent only on cancers that women suffer. Shhh!


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Rocky lizard thanks for providing the definition of nomad etc ... it fits exactly with the subject matter of "dispossessed men forced to live in Caravans"† I thank you for that support,†



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