How hard would it be for rangers to download a list of paid number plates in a given
campsite and do a quick walk-around in the site to locate non arrivals or unpaid arrivals
late arvo?
Then all he might do is tap on the miscreants and they might be blackballed on the
Nat Pks site for back pay and a sizeable $ admin fee before NP accepts a future booking
in that name/number plate.
Simple bit of programming and diligence by the rangers.
Only have to catch a few and the word will spread very rapidly.
B
rmoor said
04:34 PM Sep 10, 2025
What????
Some common sense in this day and age !!!!!!
So rare.......
I guess we have all become conditioned to the evening news and the madness we experience every day.
It is nice to know some simple logic and common sense still exists
Ineedabiggerboat said
09:07 PM Sep 10, 2025
In this day and age, its highly unlikely that they would send staff to remote areas alone after hours. So cost would be quadruple normal rates. Not gonna happen.
rmoor said
09:41 AM Sep 11, 2025
Drones ??
Warren-Pat_01 said
03:33 PM Sep 11, 2025
That's ok for parks where there are 1 or more rangers looking after a park.
Try the remote areas of NQ & CQ where there are perhaps two rangers looking after two NPs with hundreds of kms between them.
As well as paid visitors there are many who have not paid a cent & speaking to rangers, they know it happens often.
Removing the pay type envelope was a disaster especially in these areas. Often people do get delayed for various reasons & to have internet there is a rarity anyway.
Whenarewethere said
04:33 PM Sep 11, 2025
Drones are not practical. A person has to operate it. It will have to see the number plate. Can't fly within something like 30 metres of people. Distance & communication.
I am not sure how the booking works. But if the person books a site, maybe they can in a seperate transaction book another site with a fictitious number plate. They have no intention of using the site, they are simply clearing the decks & to them it's worth the money to keep neighbours at a greater distance.
Maybe the old system is worth going back to. First in first served.
Are We Lost said
04:56 PM Sep 11, 2025
I am in favour of the the present system requiring bookings. While it may not be perfect it at least gives fairly good security that the site will be available when you arrive. Otherwise, you you may drive a few hours only to find there is no room and nowhere nearby to stay. That would be fun with a car full of young kids. On only one occasion have I turned up to find someone in my booked site. Fortunately they immediately agreed to move.
Room for improvement: Track the frequency of no shows and cancellers. At some point make their bookings non refundable or changeable. Next infringement, prevent them from booking. Perhaps there could be a revenue stream for National Parks to have a dawn drive by with number plate recognition cameras. Those who have not paid get a fine in the mail. Doing that on random days and times would soon spread the word. Just like random parking inspectors on the streets.
-- Edited by Are We Lost on Thursday 11th of September 2025 04:58:58 PM
msg said
12:08 AM Sep 12, 2025
No Booking. No Fees. No problems. Bookings are a stress factor for the travelling public we don't need. Will we get there? What if I have a breakdown/delay. What if........
How hard would it be for rangers to download a list of paid number plates in a given
campsite and do a quick walk-around in the site to locate non arrivals or unpaid arrivals
late arvo?
Then all he might do is tap on the miscreants and they might be blackballed on the
Nat Pks site for back pay and a sizeable $ admin fee before NP accepts a future booking
in that name/number plate.
Simple bit of programming and diligence by the rangers.
Only have to catch a few and the word will spread very rapidly.
B
Some common sense in this day and age !!!!!!
So rare.......
I guess we have all become conditioned to the evening news and the madness we experience every day.
It is nice to know some simple logic and common sense still exists
Try the remote areas of NQ & CQ where there are perhaps two rangers looking after two NPs with hundreds of kms between them.
As well as paid visitors there are many who have not paid a cent & speaking to rangers, they know it happens often.
Removing the pay type envelope was a disaster especially in these areas. Often people do get delayed for various reasons & to have internet there is a rarity anyway.
Drones are not practical. A person has to operate it. It will have to see the number plate. Can't fly within something like 30 metres of people. Distance & communication.
I am not sure how the booking works. But if the person books a site, maybe they can in a seperate transaction book another site with a fictitious number plate. They have no intention of using the site, they are simply clearing the decks & to them it's worth the money to keep neighbours at a greater distance.
Maybe the old system is worth going back to. First in first served.
I am in favour of the the present system requiring bookings. While it may not be perfect it at least gives fairly good security that the site will be available when you arrive. Otherwise, you you may drive a few hours only to find there is no room and nowhere nearby to stay. That would be fun with a car full of young kids. On only one occasion have I turned up to find someone in my booked site. Fortunately they immediately agreed to move.
Room for improvement: Track the frequency of no shows and cancellers. At some point make their bookings non refundable or changeable. Next infringement, prevent them from booking. Perhaps there could be a revenue stream for National Parks to have a dawn drive by with number plate recognition cameras. Those who have not paid get a fine in the mail. Doing that on random days and times would soon spread the word. Just like random parking inspectors on the streets.
-- Edited by Are We Lost on Thursday 11th of September 2025 04:58:58 PM