I heard recently that power was restricted in Queensland to some customers by a "method" used by an energy supply company to customers who had a "special metre" installed in their homes that would save on energy costs.
The article indicated that customers were given a "bonus" of (I think) about $400 as an incentive to have installed. But apparently it also enabled the energy supplier to cut power to air conditioning to some customers, which occurred on a very hot day recently.
Surely this is not true. Could someone (preferably from Queensland) confirm, elaborate as to whether this is correct please.
Are We Lost said
01:19 PM Dec 31, 2024
D.R.E.D. is what you are referring to ... Demand Response Enabling Device.
When demand for power is high, the energy company can remotely reduce the power of your air conditioner by sending ripple signals through the power lines. I spent a few minutes looking for links to the following but did not find anything official. So if anyone has official links with alternate info please post.
What I believe .....
All fixed air conditioners sold in Queensland must be DRED capable (not portables or those plugging into power points). While they must be DRED capable the feature usually requires an add-on board, and this is not mandated. When the board is fitted you can contact the energy supplier to sign up to the scheme.
All states are heading in the same direction but I believe QLD is leading the way.
peter67 said
10:53 AM Jan 1, 2025
Yes, it's true according to an ABC news feed a few days ago. The affected consumers all had smart meters, if on casanova bowen was half as clever.
Bicyclecamper said
01:31 PM Jan 1, 2025
All the more reason to get batteries and go off the grid, except, they will probably charge you for the power going past your home, like councils do in our area for water.
watsea said
05:26 PM Jan 3, 2025
I understand that with some smart metering contracts, the user may also be hit with a high tariff for a large proportion of the bill, if the user exceeds some predetermined usage peak usage level, even for a short time.
As regards to charging for a service past and/or connected to a property even though not used, the justification is that the particular infrastructure does have a cost to maintain and operate even for if a particular property may not wish to use the service. As for if any particular cost for service is correct, I think authorities the ACCC and governments have input into checking for any price gouging.
Some people view the service as an asset which may add value to the property.
woolman said
09:47 AM Jan 4, 2025
Yes you do get a $400 payment to allow electricity company to cut your power to air conditioner in Qld.
One small issue, the house house holder has to pay for the instalatation cost, $400 quote in our case. Can be as little as $200 though I am told.
My economics education, being better than past treasurer, concluded why bother.
Neil
peter67 said
10:03 AM Jan 4, 2025
I've never thought paying for a service you don't use is a good idea, imagine getting invoiced every time you drove past maccas for a big mac.
watsea said
10:33 AM Jan 4, 2025
The justification is that usually reticulated power and water systems aid in the betterment of a civilisation and many communities want these things. I am not sure if the same can be said about stores that sell Maccas.
-- Edited by watsea on Saturday 4th of January 2025 10:34:42 AM
peter67 said
09:56 AM Jan 5, 2025
Correct Brodie. What albo/bowen are attempting works nowhere else in the world. Does ideology blind factual experience in other parts of the world?
Brodie Allen said
08:27 AM Jan 8, 2025
peter67 wrote:
Correct Brodie. What albo/bowen are attempting works nowhere else in the world. Does ideology blind factual experience in other parts of the world?
Sorry Pete.
I responded to your post but got cancelled.
Truths sometimes not welcome.
B
rmoor said
09:43 AM Jan 8, 2025
Yep. You can't say much. Truths often get whole threads cancelled.
A mate mentioned recently there was talk of taxing non EV vehicles in Australia?
I have been waiting for that one, only a matter of time before they hammer us with that one.
All these latte drinking city-centric types driving all this are grossly annoying.
shallowal said
04:17 PM Jan 8, 2025
It's about time that the whole rego, fuel sales tax etc got reviewed.
I heard recently that power was restricted in Queensland to some customers by a "method" used by an energy supply company to customers who had a "special metre" installed in their homes that would save on energy costs.
The article indicated that customers were given a "bonus" of (I think) about $400 as an incentive to have installed. But apparently it also enabled the energy supplier to cut power to air conditioning to some customers, which occurred on a very hot day recently.
Surely this is not true. Could someone (preferably from Queensland) confirm, elaborate as to whether this is correct please.
When demand for power is high, the energy company can remotely reduce the power of your air conditioner by sending ripple signals through the power lines. I spent a few minutes looking for links to the following but did not find anything official. So if anyone has official links with alternate info please post.
What I believe .....
All fixed air conditioners sold in Queensland must be DRED capable (not portables or those plugging into power points). While they must be DRED capable the feature usually requires an add-on board, and this is not mandated. When the board is fitted you can contact the energy supplier to sign up to the scheme.
All states are heading in the same direction but I believe QLD is leading the way.
As regards to charging for a service past and/or connected to a property even though not used, the justification is that the particular infrastructure does have a cost to maintain and operate even for if a particular property may not wish to use the service. As for if any particular cost for service is correct, I think authorities the ACCC and governments have input into checking for any price gouging.
Some people view the service as an asset which may add value to the property.
Yes you do get a $400 payment to allow electricity company to cut your power to air conditioner in Qld.
One small issue, the house house holder has to pay for the instalatation cost, $400 quote in our case. Can be as little as $200 though I am told.
My economics education, being better than past treasurer, concluded why bother.
Neil
The justification is that usually reticulated power and water systems aid in the betterment of a civilisation and many communities want these things. I am not sure if the same can be said about stores that sell Maccas.
-- Edited by watsea on Saturday 4th of January 2025 10:34:42 AM
Sorry Pete.
I responded to your post but got cancelled.
Truths sometimes not welcome.
B
A mate mentioned recently there was talk of taxing non EV vehicles in Australia?
I have been waiting for that one, only a matter of time before they hammer us with that one.
All these latte drinking city-centric types driving all this are grossly annoying.
It's about time that the whole rego, fuel sales tax etc got reviewed.