-- Edited by dorian on Tuesday 29th of October 2024 11:43:47 AM
Kebbin said
03:43 PM Oct 29, 2024
They turned their brand new L300 into a table top cut away half the body, you only have to imagine what they have done to the engine.
Why? I would have thought that a F250 or Ram 2500 may have been cheaper, it beggars belief! How in the hell did they think it would be still under warranty?
But no worries they will get crowd funding to fix everything up.
landy said
09:37 AM Oct 30, 2024
Wow I thought that was two different cars. Guess I can see why Toyota knocked that one back.
peter67 said
11:34 AM Oct 30, 2024
And if you look at the caravan size PLUS the big toolbox cabinet that no doubt has every conceivable spare and a heavy tool set PLUS the boat on top, I mean, where's the kitchen sink? perhaps that's why a remap was done? or had they spent too much time chatting to the beard strokers?
landy said
09:46 PM Oct 30, 2024
Hard to believe he really expected Toyota to honor the warranty when there is so many reasons to reject it.
Magnarc said
08:03 AM Nov 1, 2024
Common sense ain't so common anymore. No sympathy from me.
Warren-Pat_01 said
08:30 AM Nov 1, 2024
There are companies that do these modifications - one would expect that they would be in cahoots with the manufacturers. I've seen adverts in 4WD magazines - certain there is one in WA.
As to the loading, that's the owner's issue.
When I was having my Fulcrum suspension installed on our D-Max at Toowoomba, there was a new 6WD VW Amorok there also having suspension mods done. I can't recall what the new GVM was - it was significantly higher!
Warren-Pat_01 said
09:14 AM Nov 1, 2024
Just another thought - were these people sucked in with the advertising hype?
"Toyotas are tough, can tow 3500kg, Toyota King of the Outback, etc".
As Kebbin said, surely there were much better vehicles that fitted their purpose. It shows they didn't do their homework very well!
I wonder what yobarr would think of this tale?
peter67 said
09:41 AM Nov 1, 2024
I'd ask him for you but...I'd end up with a four page answer.
blackstump said
09:54 AM Nov 1, 2024
peter67 wrote:
I'd ask him for you but...I'd end up with a four page answer.
So only a short reply then ;)
Gundog said
11:27 AM Nov 1, 2024
I have a friend who done a similar conversion to a Nissan Patrol, it was carried out before it was registered and had full approval from Nissan. Also the owner is a mechanic that works in the mining industry. He and his family have recently completed a 12 month trip around Oz.
blackstump said
12:25 PM Nov 1, 2024
Gundog wrote:
I have a friend who done a similar conversion to a Nissan Patrol, it was carried out before it was registered and had full approval from Nissan. Also the owner is a mechanic that works in the mining industry. He and his family have recently completed a 12 month trip around Oz.
Don't think the conversion or the GVM upgrade are the issue, My guess (and the owner isn't giving details) is that it was remapped and I bet Toyota didn't approve that.
watsea said
03:45 PM Nov 1, 2024
blackstump wrote:
Gundog wrote:
I have a friend who done a similar conversion to a Nissan Patrol, it was carried out before it was registered and had full approval from Nissan. Also the owner is a mechanic that works in the mining industry. He and his family have recently completed a 12 month trip around Oz.
Don't think the conversion or the GVM upgrade are the issue, My guess (and the owner isn't giving details) is that it was remapped and I bet Toyota didn't approve that.
Agree.
My understanding is that the modifications need to be shown how the fault has been caused. A suspension mod does not affect the engine, as far as I know.
Lots of mods can happen that do not affect the engine.
Under warranty, Toyota replaced my steering wheel even though I have a catch can fitted which Toyota does not recommend. Yes, an extreme difference but not all faults can be attributed to a certain mod.
Looking at the vehicle in the circumstances for this thread, the owner may have an engine remap or chip fitted. Hence Toyota could easily not have to honour the warranty.
landy said
09:34 PM Nov 1, 2024
The warranty IMHO would have been for the the car as it left the factory and only being subject to the load restrictions of a 300 series wagon. (without the express permission of Toyota). I,m guessing the company that done the modifications will also wipe him. all care and no responsibility. Cant believe he thought he would still be covered. Landy
Are We Lost said
10:23 PM Nov 1, 2024
There is a well respected brand of driving lights that makes a bracket specifically for the Ford Ranger to fit one of their light bars down below the grille. I posed the question on the Ford Ranger forum if this was acceptable and the advice was it was too restrictive of airflow. So I abandoned the idea.
At the next service I asked where is an appropriate place to position a light bar and the service manager said nothing may be mounted that would interfere in any way with airflow. He commented that if such a device was fitted, and any engine or cooling system malfuntion was deemed due to overheating, then they would likely deny warranty.
I wonder how many such accessories had been fitted to this vehicle. I feel sure the rig would have exceeded Toyota's design criteria for maximum weight. Maybe they deemed that such a weight overworked the engine.
-- Edited by Are We Lost on Friday 1st of November 2024 10:25:30 PM
peter67 said
10:31 AM Nov 2, 2024
And don't forget that with ANY engine mod you also wipe your warranty for ALL gearbox/prop shaft and diff problems.
DMaxer said
10:45 AM Nov 2, 2024
You cannot have a warranty voided in total.
What happens is if the manufacturer can show that the unauthorised modification led to the failure of a component then that particular claim may be rejected. The warranty still remains with the same proviso.
landy said
10:19 PM Nov 2, 2024
Are We Lost wrote:
There is a well respected brand of driving lights that makes a bracket specifically for the Ford Ranger to fit one of their light bars down below the grille. I posed the question on the Ford Ranger forum if this was acceptable and the advice was it was too restrictive of airflow. So I abandoned the idea.
At the next service I asked where is an appropriate place to position a light bar and the service manager said nothing may be mounted that would interfere in any way with airflow. He commented that if such a device was fitted, and any engine or cooling system malfuntion was deemed due to overheating, then they would likely deny warranty.
I wonder how many such accessories had been fitted to this vehicle. I feel sure the rig would have exceeded Toyota's design criteria for maximum weight. Maybe they deemed that such a weight overworked the engine.
-- Edited by Are We Lost on Friday 1st of November 2024 10:25:30 PM
That is why I have never fitted any big driving lights on the front of our rig. With all the things behind the grill that need cooling in a modern car before the air even gets to the radiator, air-conditioning, inter coolers, transition coolers etc then a van on the back and possibly a 40 degree plus day. I want as much air as possible going through the front. Landy
Southern Cruizer said
07:07 PM Nov 3, 2024
I went away from driving lights on our vehicle at the moment and put a wide spreader bar on it. Just as good as past driving lights
https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/queensland-family-stranded-after-toyota-rejects-warranty-on-modified-landcruiser/news-story/c2227da04ea43c9e43f46aa5c714767
www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/queensland-family-stranded-after-toyota-rejects-warranty-on-modified-landcruiser/news-story/c2227da04ea43c9e43f46aa5c7147671~:text=%E2%80%9CToyota%2520Rockingham%2520informed%2520us%2520today,Series%2520LandCruiser%252C%E2%80%9D%2520they%2520said.&text=%E2%80%9CThe%2520engine%2520failed%2520at%252027%252C000,last%2520service%2520was%25203500km%2520ago.%E2%80%9D
Try this shorter URL:
https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/queensland-family-stranded-after-toyota-rejects-warranty-on-modified-landcruiser/news-story/c2227da04ea43c9e43f46aa5c7147671 (story)
https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/toyota/video/01f880c38f15b3a8df456050ae5b5f3c (video)
-- Edited by dorian on Tuesday 29th of October 2024 11:43:47 AM
Why? I would have thought that a F250 or Ram 2500 may have been cheaper, it beggars belief! How in the hell did they think it would be still under warranty?
But no worries they will get crowd funding to fix everything up.
Common sense ain't so common anymore. No sympathy from me.
As to the loading, that's the owner's issue.
When I was having my Fulcrum suspension installed on our D-Max at Toowoomba, there was a new 6WD VW Amorok there also having suspension mods done. I can't recall what the new GVM was - it was significantly higher!
"Toyotas are tough, can tow 3500kg, Toyota King of the Outback, etc".
As Kebbin said, surely there were much better vehicles that fitted their purpose. It shows they didn't do their homework very well!
I wonder what yobarr would think of this tale?
So only a short reply then ;)
Don't think the conversion or the GVM upgrade are the issue, My guess (and the owner isn't giving details) is that it was remapped and I bet Toyota didn't approve that.
Agree.
My understanding is that the modifications need to be shown how the fault has been caused. A suspension mod does not affect the engine, as far as I know.
Lots of mods can happen that do not affect the engine.
Under warranty, Toyota replaced my steering wheel even though I have a catch can fitted which Toyota does not recommend. Yes, an extreme difference but not all faults can be attributed to a certain mod.
Looking at the vehicle in the circumstances for this thread, the owner may have an engine remap or chip fitted. Hence Toyota could easily not have to honour the warranty.
I,m guessing the company that done the modifications will also wipe him. all care and no responsibility. Cant believe he thought he would still be covered. Landy
There is a well respected brand of driving lights that makes a bracket specifically for the Ford Ranger to fit one of their light bars down below the grille. I posed the question on the Ford Ranger forum if this was acceptable and the advice was it was too restrictive of airflow. So I abandoned the idea.
At the next service I asked where is an appropriate place to position a light bar and the service manager said nothing may be mounted that would interfere in any way with airflow. He commented that if such a device was fitted, and any engine or cooling system malfuntion was deemed due to overheating, then they would likely deny warranty.
I wonder how many such accessories had been fitted to this vehicle. I feel sure the rig would have exceeded Toyota's design criteria for maximum weight. Maybe they deemed that such a weight overworked the engine.
-- Edited by Are We Lost on Friday 1st of November 2024 10:25:30 PM
You cannot have a warranty voided in total.
What happens is if the manufacturer can show that the unauthorised modification led to the failure of a component then that particular claim may be rejected. The warranty still remains with the same proviso.
That is why I have never fitted any big driving lights on the front of our rig. With all the things behind the grill that need cooling in a modern car before the air even gets to the radiator, air-conditioning, inter coolers, transition coolers etc then a van on the back and possibly a 40 degree plus day.
I want as much air as possible going through the front. Landy