My new Pathfinder doesn't have a petrol cap, didn't know this before I bought the car. Just another part of this car that is great modern technology. I pull up at the petrol station, get out of the car and the petrol flap automatically
unlocks. grab hold of the bowser nozzle and just put it in the hole, when I finish just take it out, no worrying about caps, thats good in my old age, something less to worry about.
Wazza..
The Belmont Bear said
03:44 PM Sep 23, 2023
My Jeep is 5 years old and it hasnt got one I dont know about pre 2018 models.
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Whenarewethere said
04:42 PM Sep 23, 2023
In the outback I always fire up the compressor to blow off the dust before it has a chance to get into the tank.
If it opens automatically, can you clean or do you have to shove you undies in (Molotov Cocktail).
-- Edited by Whenarewethere on Saturday 23rd of September 2023 04:45:55 PM
deverall11 said
10:07 AM Sep 24, 2023
A convenience that does not work terribly well in the outback as illustrated in the above picture
and would work moderately well in the city. You will still get 'dirt', just not as obvious as above
and it is then up to the fuel filter to deal with this.
This is probably an invention for those who forget to replace the fuel cap.
Bulldozer said
11:00 AM Sep 24, 2023
deverall11 wrote:
A convenience that does not work terribly well in the outback as illustrated in the above picture and would work moderately well in the city. You will still get 'dirt', just not as obvious as above and it is then up to the fuel filter to deal with this. This is probably an invention for those who forget to replace the fuel cap.
I can see where you're coming from, hopefully I don't have a problem, and hopefully the car manufactures and engineers have done their homework. Time will tell.
Wazza..
The Belmont Bear said
04:55 PM Sep 24, 2023
In the last 12 months we have done over 25000kms through Qid, NT, WA, SA, Vic and NSW and I have never opened the fuel door to find a build up of dust or dirt in the fuel bay. Maybe because the one shown has a cap they dont worry too much about how the door seals. We didnt do many of those kms on actual dirt roads but the red dust still managed to get into the door sills, the tailgate, engine bay and build up on the outside of the vehicle while travelling in the outback just like the photo - whenever I opened the fuel door it was clean. The fuel door latches and releases electronically, it closes tightly onto a rubber seal and sits flush with the body, instead of the cap the spout has a spring loaded gate that opens when you insert the nozzle. Like a cap it stops anything from entering the tank it it happens to get past the seal. Hey but dont let the facts get in the way of a good story you are obviously a lot smarter than the design engineers as they werent able to forsee that this could be a problem..
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46jade said
05:46 PM Sep 24, 2023
2015 Jeep has no fuel cap.A special funnell in the tool kit to fill if you run out of fuel
Whenarewethere said
06:17 PM Sep 24, 2023
The Belmont Bear wrote:
you are obviously a lot smarter than the design engineers as they werent able to forsee that this could be a problem..
I am far dumber than the engineers & can't work out the purpose for having so much red dust behind trim panels.
When installing acoustic insulation, vacuuming & cleaning got pretty tedious, so the materials would stick to body.
deverall11 said
10:08 AM Sep 25, 2023
The Belmont Bear wrote:
In the last 12 months we have done over 25000kms through Qid, NT, WA, SA, Vic and NSW and I have never opened the fuel door to find a build up of dust or dirt in the fuel bay. Maybe because the one shown has a cap they dont worry too much about how the door seals. We didnt do many of those kms on actual dirt roads but the red dust still managed to get into the door sills, the tailgate, engine bay and build up on the outside of the vehicle while travelling in the outback just like the photo - whenever I opened the fuel door it was clean. The fuel door latches and releases electronically, it closes tightly onto a rubber seal and sits flush with the body, instead of the cap the spout has a spring loaded gate that opens when you insert the nozzle. Like a cap it stops anything from entering the tank it it happens to get past the seal. Hey but dont let the facts get in the way of a good story you are obviously a lot smarter than the design engineers as they werent able to forsee that this could be a problem..
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No need for sarcasm. You are well travelled so do want a medal or a chest to pin it on?????
Lr said
10:46 PM Oct 2, 2023
Yes can't imagine design engineers making a mistake lol , newer model cars have too many problems to list hahaha
Whenarewethere said
11:00 PM Oct 2, 2023
Only have to look at headlights & taillights these days to see total failure. Pointing too high & or 1 or more not working front & back, including brake lights, & the headlights that work have far too much glare.
Bulldozer said
11:57 AM Oct 4, 2023
The LED head lights in my new Pathfinder are brilliant. better than any cars that Iv'e owned in the past.
Whenarewethere said
01:25 PM Oct 4, 2023
Are they brilliant from other drivers' perspective?
deverall11 said
02:17 PM Oct 4, 2023
Lr wrote:
Yes can't imagine design engineers making a mistake lol , newer model cars have too many problems to list hahaha
Perfect example of engineers getting it wrong is the famous HOLDEN. They got away with for a few
years but the offerings from other manufacturers was too much for them to not only match but
also excel in order to capture the market. For some it's a sad day, for me it's long overdue. RIP HOLDEN.
Bulldozer said
07:12 AM Oct 5, 2023
Whenarewethere wrote:
Are they brilliant from other drivers' perspective?
You seem to be the expert, You tell us.
Dick0 said
11:25 AM Oct 5, 2023
The Belmont Bear wrote:
In the last 12 months we have done over 25000kms through Qid, NT, WA, SA, Vic and NSW and I have never opened the fuel door to find a build up of dust or dirt in the fuel bay. Maybe because the one shown has a cap they dont worry too much about how the door seals. We didnt do many of those kms on actual dirt roads but the red dust still managed to get into the door sills, the tailgate, engine bay and build up on the outside of the vehicle while travelling in the outback just like the photo - whenever I opened the fuel door it was clean. The fuel door latches and releases electronically, it closes tightly onto a rubber seal and sits flush with the body, instead of the cap the spout has a spring loaded gate that opens when you insert the nozzle. Like a cap it stops anything from entering the tank it it happens to get past the seal. Hey but dont let the facts get in the way of a good story you are obviously a lot smarter than the design engineers as they werent able to forsee that this could be a problem..
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Dave, my fuel bay like yours never has dust or dirt build up so the seal for the door has been well designed. When I wash the car I always check the filler area and have not had a need to clean it.
oxleigh said
08:03 PM Oct 8, 2023
The Jeep Grand Cherokee we had when in the USA had no cap, but if the door had an issue and would not open there is a small cap on the door step of the tailgate that you open and put fuel in there, the rental car mob showed me this just in case. I have spoken to people who owned a Jeep like this and they did not know about it.
-- Edited by oxleigh on Sunday 8th of October 2023 08:04:21 PM
My new Pathfinder doesn't have a petrol cap, didn't know this before I bought the car. Just another part of this car that is great modern technology. I pull up at the petrol station, get out of the car and the petrol flap automatically
unlocks. grab hold of the bowser nozzle and just put it in the hole, when I finish just take it out, no worrying about caps, thats good in my old age, something less to worry about.
Wazza..
My Jeep is 5 years old and it hasnt got one I dont know about pre 2018 models.
BB
In the outback I always fire up the compressor to blow off the dust before it has a chance to get into the tank.
If it opens automatically, can you clean or do you have to shove you undies in (Molotov Cocktail).
-- Edited by Whenarewethere on Saturday 23rd of September 2023 04:45:55 PM
and would work moderately well in the city. You will still get 'dirt', just not as obvious as above
and it is then up to the fuel filter to deal with this.
This is probably an invention for those who forget to replace the fuel cap.
I can see where you're coming from, hopefully I don't have a problem, and hopefully the car manufactures and engineers have done their homework. Time will tell.
Wazza..
In the last 12 months we have done over 25000kms through Qid, NT, WA, SA, Vic and NSW and I have never opened the fuel door to find a build up of dust or dirt in the fuel bay. Maybe because the one shown has a cap they dont worry too much about how the door seals. We didnt do many of those kms on actual dirt roads but the red dust still managed to get into the door sills, the tailgate, engine bay and build up on the outside of the vehicle while travelling in the outback just like the photo - whenever I opened the fuel door it was clean. The fuel door latches and releases electronically, it closes tightly onto a rubber seal and sits flush with the body, instead of the cap the spout has a spring loaded gate that opens when you insert the nozzle. Like a cap it stops anything from entering the tank it it happens to get past the seal. Hey but dont let the facts get in the way of a good story you are obviously a lot smarter than the design engineers as they werent able to forsee that this could be a problem..
BB
I am far dumber than the engineers & can't work out the purpose for having so much red dust behind trim panels.
When installing acoustic insulation, vacuuming & cleaning got pretty tedious, so the materials would stick to body.
No need for sarcasm. You are well travelled so do want a medal or a chest to pin it on?????
Only have to look at headlights & taillights these days to see total failure. Pointing too high & or 1 or more not working front & back, including brake lights, & the headlights that work have far too much glare.
Are they brilliant from other drivers' perspective?
Perfect example of engineers getting it wrong is the famous HOLDEN. They got away with for a few
years but the offerings from other manufacturers was too much for them to not only match but
also excel in order to capture the market. For some it's a sad day, for me it's long overdue. RIP HOLDEN.
You seem to be the expert, You tell us.
Dave, my fuel bay like yours never has dust or dirt build up so the seal for the door has been well designed. When I wash the car I always check the filler area and have not had a need to clean it.
The Jeep Grand Cherokee we had when in the USA had no cap, but if the door had an issue and would not open there is a small cap on the door step of the tailgate that you open and put fuel in there, the rental car mob showed me this just in case. I have spoken to people who owned a Jeep like this and they did not know about it.
-- Edited by oxleigh on Sunday 8th of October 2023 08:04:21 PM