The lead story was how manufacturers advertise their Utes.
Well worth watching.
Possum3 said
09:39 PM Jun 22, 2023
Very few vehicles can match the advertised consumption figures - do your homework.
Gundog said
09:52 PM Jun 22, 2023
Because most drivers cannot replicate the the testing sequence, and a majority of drivers can pass a driving test but have no idea how to acturally, rather than just stick it in drive and push the stop & go peddle.
deverall11 said
10:03 PM Jun 22, 2023
Don't think those figures are there for someone to attempt to replicate them. It is more of a guide
line. If the testing environment is controlled and able to be replicated, all manufacturers are able
to produce those figures as a guides. The equivalent of lab testing or level playing field.
As a consumer it is easy to compare one vehicle with another but not necessarily be able to
achieve those figures.
Although as a consumer you may not be able to replicate them, the idea is to demonstrate
one vehicle is more/less efficient then another.
Whenarewethere said
10:23 PM Jun 22, 2023
Not to forget that any car doing fuel benchmark will have no mud flaps, roof rack, aerials, footwell mats or any other accessories to save weight & improve aerodynamics.
It will be the "pauper" model & not the "keeping up with the Joneses" model. Which doesn't have electric motors powering everything, like 24 way massage seats with heating & air conditioning, or 2000 watt 24 speaker hi-fi system.
Footwell lighting, puddle lights, mood lighting, star ceiling, fridge all add weight to the Joneses model.
It will have the narrowest & hardest tyres approved for the model.
A brand new car will be a bit lighter as it is not carrying any dirt (an old 747 is 2 tonnes heavier due to dirt).
Doesn't matter how hard one tries you simply will never match a benchmark other than with a tailwind.
deverall11 said
02:29 PM Jun 23, 2023
Whenarewethere wrote:
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Doesn't matter how hard one tries you simply will never match a benchmark other than with a tailwind.
Not designed or intended to do that. Benchmark and that's it. A means of comparing fuel consumption on an equal footing.
I've just finished watching The Graen on the ABC.
The lead story was how manufacturers advertise their Utes.
Well worth watching.
Because most drivers cannot replicate the the testing sequence, and a majority of drivers can pass a driving test but have no idea how to acturally, rather than just stick it in drive and push the stop & go peddle.
line. If the testing environment is controlled and able to be replicated, all manufacturers are able
to produce those figures as a guides. The equivalent of lab testing or level playing field.
As a consumer it is easy to compare one vehicle with another but not necessarily be able to
achieve those figures.
Although as a consumer you may not be able to replicate them, the idea is to demonstrate
one vehicle is more/less efficient then another.
Not to forget that any car doing fuel benchmark will have no mud flaps, roof rack, aerials, footwell mats or any other accessories to save weight & improve aerodynamics.
It will be the "pauper" model & not the "keeping up with the Joneses" model. Which doesn't have electric motors powering everything, like 24 way massage seats with heating & air conditioning, or 2000 watt 24 speaker hi-fi system.
Footwell lighting, puddle lights, mood lighting, star ceiling, fridge all add weight to the Joneses model.
It will have the narrowest & hardest tyres approved for the model.
A brand new car will be a bit lighter as it is not carrying any dirt (an old 747 is 2 tonnes heavier due to dirt).
Doesn't matter how hard one tries you simply will never match a benchmark other than with a tailwind.
Not designed or intended to do that. Benchmark and that's it. A means of comparing fuel consumption on an equal footing.