Can someone tell if you need to replace tyers after 5yrs even if the van has been in a shed and jacked up. There is still plenty of tred on the tyers
yobarr said
04:06 PM Jun 12, 2023
Since tyres are relatively inexpensive, and we are talking safety here, Id replace them without further ado. However, you are likely to get dozens of opinions and reports of personal experience. Could I suggest that you Google "Life of unused new tyres" and read reports. There are pages of them, but I have screen-shot a couple of pieces of "advice" for your perusal.
Good luck with answers to your question, but for the sake of spending a couple of miserable dollars you could be saving your van, yourself and others from damage. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Monday 12th of June 2023 04:08:45 PM
I totally agree with Yobarr in that, tyres should be replaced for safety's sake after five years.
Unfortunately for most of us, it is not "spending a couple of miserable dollars" depending on how many and what size of tyres are required (remember the spare).
Remember that the tyres on your trailer/van are not driving tyres - they should be replaced with light truck tyres to the specifications on your VIN plate.
Craig1 said
09:38 AM Jun 13, 2023
Just did ours, from 2013 when new. My tyre guy said "unroadworthy at 10 years old " in NSW, regardless of tread left.
Whenarewethere said
09:52 AM Jun 13, 2023
There could be rust or corrosion issues inside the rim. Only one way to find out & while at it get new tyres & valves.
Also TPMS!
Greg 1 said
11:33 AM Jun 13, 2023
I don't totally agree with the article that yobarr posted.
Tyres do go hard as the rubber loses some of the compounds that keep the rubber supple over time.
This is particularly noticeable with the sticky R Spec tyres that I use on my little race car.
A tyre that has been stored on the shelf for a couple of years will not have the same level of grip as one that is newly manufactured, so people like me that dabble in motorsport are constantly checking manufactured dates to find a set of tyres with a very late date on them to maximise our chances of a good lap time.
The heat cycles on race rubber also destroy the tyres flexibility and grip too.
Transferring that to a van, the grip levels are not so important, but the hardening effect can eventually cause cracking of the walls and failure of the tyre even though they look fine in terms of tread depth.
I usually use 6 to 7 years on my vans before changing tyres although they get a visual inspection before each trip and rotated on the van.
It also depends on where I am going too. A tyre nearing what I would consider end of life may well do me for a short trip South but I would change if doing a long trip East just for precautions sake.
That said, my garden trailer has 13 year old tyres on it but it travels are limited to the occasional trip to the tip or to Bunnings so hardly worth changing those every 5 minutes.
Kebbin said
12:12 PM Jun 13, 2023
As far as I know there is no gazetted law on Tyres but having changed tyres on a boat trailer with infrequent use at 10 years it is a good idea to keep an eye on those that aren't used as much over a longer period of time.
So if your using said Van frequently keep doing so until you or your tyre bloke tells you it's time.
Yobarrs article is just someone else's opinion (which if you read it contradicts itself) just use your common sense.
There is a Tyre Date of Manufacture on most tyres, I'm not sure about the Chinese tyres that are put on most of them these days though with those stupid 15" rims.
Whenarewethere said
12:36 PM Jun 13, 2023
It's not just "Chinese" tyres made in China. My Pirelli AT Plus tyres are made in China as well.
Stated in almost invisible font size.
johns said
12:47 PM Jun 13, 2023
thanks for every ones comments. I need to a close eye on tyers
Craig1 said
04:19 PM Jun 13, 2023
The date code is week and year of manufacture eg, 0521, should be the 5th week of 2021.
Whenarewethere said
05:35 PM Jun 13, 2023
johns wrote:
thanks for every ones comments. I need to a close eye on tyers
Tyers is in Victoria.
Craig1 said
08:07 AM Jun 14, 2023
Cindy, we need a spell checker please.
yobarr said
08:51 AM Jun 14, 2023
Craig1 wrote:
Cindy, we need a spell checker please.
Probably end up with aanerican one, which will not be real English. Cheers
Bobdown said
10:01 AM Jun 14, 2023
You can always fill them with concrete when they are over 5 y/o......
Stuff heaps of spinifex in, does the job every time.
Cuppa said
12:51 PM Jun 14, 2023
I found 6 years to be too old for the off road light truck tyres I had on our Tvan . Bridgestone D697's. I thought I had 2 x 3year old tyres on the single axle, but after a weekend away which involved some very rocky tracks I found one tyre to be in significantly worse shape than the other, very chipped with a lot of tread torn off. Examination showed I had a 3 year old & a 6 year old tyre fitted & that it was the older tyre with all the damage. The younger one had virtually no damage at all. Pushing a fingernail into the tread rubber of each tyre's tread revealed a significant difference in 'hardness'.
-- Edited by Cuppa on Wednesday 14th of June 2023 05:16:51 PM
Whenarewethere said
01:12 PM Jun 14, 2023
yobarr wrote:
Craig1 wrote:
Cindy, we need a spell checker please.
Probably end up with aanerican one, which will not be real English. Cheers
American spell checker will not help as they spell it as tire or plural tires.
Out of my own interest I did a Google street search which I did tire for tyres in Tyres.
Stretch60 said
08:01 PM Jun 14, 2023
Father inlaw former wa taxi driver. Owner of taxi purchased tyres in bulk and stored in shed until they went hard. This way they lasted longer on the taxi. Could be why the taxis drive slowly in wet conditions.
gold dandelion said
10:24 PM Jun 14, 2023
Not sure why a spell checker is needed, it appears to me everyone understands the topic. I guess this is why conflict starts. If you need a spell checker don't involve yourself in the discussion.
Can someone tell if you need to replace tyers after 5yrs even if the van has been in a shed and jacked up. There is still plenty of tred on the tyers
Since tyres are relatively inexpensive, and we are talking safety here, Id replace them without further ado. However, you are likely to get dozens of opinions and reports of personal experience.
Could I suggest that you Google "Life of unused new tyres" and read reports. There are pages of them, but I have screen-shot a couple of pieces of "advice" for your perusal.
Good luck with answers to your question, but for the sake of spending a couple of miserable dollars you could be saving your van, yourself and others from damage. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Monday 12th of June 2023 04:08:45 PM
Unfortunately for most of us, it is not "spending a couple of miserable dollars" depending on how many and what size of tyres are required (remember the spare).
Remember that the tyres on your trailer/van are not driving tyres - they should be replaced with light truck tyres to the specifications on your VIN plate.
There could be rust or corrosion issues inside the rim. Only one way to find out & while at it get new tyres & valves.
Also TPMS!
So if your using said Van frequently keep doing so until you or your tyre bloke tells you it's time.
Yobarrs article is just someone else's opinion (which if you read it contradicts itself) just use your common sense.
There is a Tyre Date of Manufacture on most tyres, I'm not sure about the Chinese tyres that are put on most of them these days though with those stupid 15" rims.
It's not just "Chinese" tyres made in China. My Pirelli AT Plus tyres are made in China as well.
Stated in almost invisible font size.
thanks for every ones comments. I need to a close eye on tyers
Tyers is in Victoria.
Probably end up with aanerican one, which will not be real English. Cheers
You can always fill them with concrete when they are over 5 y/o......
https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/on-the-road/police-intervene-after-queensland-mans-cement-tyre-stunt-goes-viral/news-story/c4457c6e3aace391fef51b86bc921ecd
I found 6 years to be too old for the off road light truck tyres I had on our Tvan . Bridgestone D697's. I thought I had 2 x 3year old tyres on the single axle, but after a weekend away which involved some very rocky tracks I found one tyre to be in significantly worse shape than the other, very chipped with a lot of tread torn off. Examination showed I had a 3 year old & a 6 year old tyre fitted & that it was the older tyre with all the damage. The younger one had virtually no damage at all. Pushing a fingernail into the tread rubber of each tyre's tread revealed a significant difference in 'hardness'.
-- Edited by Cuppa on Wednesday 14th of June 2023 05:16:51 PM
American spell checker will not help as they spell it as tire or plural tires.
Out of my own interest I did a Google street search which I did tire for tyres in Tyres.