One of my best mates probably won't talk to me this week but here goes. I'm mentioning the WDH things, haha. He knows who he is.
We have just finished caretaking a caravan park for the past 2 weeks and by hell eyes wide open at what we saw and hear.
To all the Landcruiser owners out there who are gospel with all their talk on "I would never use those things," well all I can say is more than 80% of LC's that came through the park had the WDH's fitted. They all said they would not hook up without them. So, I am of the opinion after witnessing it myself that once on the keyboard all these people change their minds and type BS on social media and forums to make things look good. Also includes Nissan Patrols, DMax's, BT 50's, and others I can't remember as a lot of different vehicles come through nearly all had them. Very few and I mean very few didn't have them,
Towing mirrors and talking extended mirrors for towing, what are they. The number of vehicles coming into park without them was scary at the least. Couldn't reverse, had no idea where they were heading and a nightmare. I don't know how many I had to walk beside the door to direct them in and save the park property from being run into or destroyed. Then we also had the newbies, the big Dodge Rams with a screen on the dash as big as a television hooked up to the reverse camera and don't even look at it. 3 or 4 goes to get into a spot. The mind boggles. Mind you when the odd solo lady comes in and asks if I could help them get in, it was no skin off my nose to back in for them. Then the odd one would say, I need a challenge, walk beside the car and tell me where I am going wrong, you really don't mind helping.
Now to sit back and relax and let the manager worry about that stuff till called in again
Dougwe said
05:58 PM May 15, 2023
Maaaaate, you are gamer than Ned Kelly. Nothing like a good thread about WDH or Towing Mirrors. Here's one with both in the same thread to bring out a Troll.
deverall11 said
07:38 PM May 15, 2023
SC, it is a shameful reality that Mr Plod and his cohorts never ever do anything about
those two important things when confronted with them on the road.
Ignorance about the subject or just could not be bothered.
Southern Cruizer said
07:47 PM May 15, 2023
deverall11 wrote:
SC, it is a shameful reality that Mr Plod and his cohorts never ever do anything about those two important things when confronted with them on the road. Ignorance about the subject or just could not be bothered.
deverall11 it was reported last week in a post elsewhere of a very serious accident in WA where 3 vans travelling in convoy and none had any extended mirrors on, hence the emergency vehicles couldn't get past as quick as they wanted to. Those people had no idea who was following them. There was a big debate about it in regards to life and death situations where time can be of the essence in these sorts of cases
BarneyBDB said
09:22 PM May 15, 2023
Suitable towing mirrors are a legal requirement for everyone, WDH's may be of some use to some people but they are not a mandated requirement for everyone.
Gundog said
09:41 PM May 15, 2023
I feel that every one towing a caravan should have have rearview camera on back of the van connected to its own screen.
With one you can see thaat vehicle in your blind spot.
Possum3 said
08:59 AM May 16, 2023
deverall11 wrote:
SC, it is a shameful reality that Mr Plod and his cohorts never ever do anything about those two important things when confronted with them on the road. Ignorance about the subject or just could not be bothered.
It's a bit harsh to blame Mr Plod for idiots failing to comply - I am unaware of any in traffic division, that will ignore obvious breaches.
The RMS has camera systems recording all vehicles and details to the point of looking up women's skirts - perhaps they could follow up on obvious breaches.
deverall11 said
09:47 AM May 16, 2023
Possum3 wrote:
deverall11 wrote:
SC, it is a shameful reality that Mr Plod and his cohorts never ever do anything about those two important things when confronted with them on the road. Ignorance about the subject or just could not be bothered.
It's a bit harsh to blame Mr Plod for idiots failing to comply - I am unaware of any in traffic division, that will ignore obvious breaches.
The RMS has camera systems recording all vehicles and details to the point of looking up women's skirts - perhaps they could follow up on obvious breaches.
Possum, you must live in a world of fantasy. A day does not go by when I witness offences ignored by none other the Mr Plod.
Going through a red light in Qld. Endemic frequented by bogans.
As I mentioned most of them probably are not familiar with caravan towing compliances. If I was to be sarcastic I would put
it to you that there is more to be gotten from issuing a speeding fine then dealing with a non compliant caravan tower. Why?
Probably because the $ rate is higher for a speeding fine then a non compliant caravan. This is before we get into the argument
that would ensue. Many more $ rate least in NSW. Also do not forget that Police instructions are directly proportional to the
number of deaths. Not too many or not enough involving caravan but a lot more involving motorcycles and/or speeding drivers.
Not sure if this is still the case but at one point speeding was the default reason if police could not determine the cause of
an accident resulting in death.
deverall11 said
09:48 AM May 16, 2023
Gundog wrote:
I feel that every one towing a caravan should have have rearview camera on back of the van connected to its own screen.
With one you can see thaat vehicle in your blind spot.
Good idea but currently not accepted as an alternative to mirrors. Presumably because it is a device which
may fail.
deverall11 said
09:50 AM May 16, 2023
Southern Cruizer wrote:
...
deverall11 it was reported last week in a post elsewhere of a very serious accident in WA where 3 vans travelling in convoy and none had any extended mirrors on, hence the emergency vehicles couldn't get past as quick as they wanted to. Those people had no idea who was following them. There was a big debate about it in regards to life and death situations where time can be of the essence in these sorts of cases
SC, yep seen it when we were travelling and even called out on the CB to try making them aware that a truck
was behind and possibly needed to get passed. Seems that for some as soon as they hitch a caravan, brain gets left behind.
Hendo said
10:02 AM May 16, 2023
Have Clearview Mirrors but as the D-Max has an upgraded suspension no need for the WDH
smwhiskey said
04:30 PM May 16, 2023
Gundog wrote:
I feel that every one towing a caravan should have have rearview camera on back of the van connected to its own screen.
With one you can see thaat vehicle in your blind spot.
If I don't check to if see theres a vehicle behind me (or have the missus watching) before I reverse then I deserve everything I get. If said vehicle wants to sit in my blindspot when I'm travelling forward then they deserve everything they get.
I'm getting sick of having to spend money and/or change the way I do things just because of the idiots of the world. My van is 15 years old and my tug is 20 years old. Neither has the wiring or hardware suitable for running a video feed from the rear of the van to display in the front of the 4WD and it would neither be a cheap nor simple exercise to retrofit it.
As a society we're going to learn one day that the more we try to make the world idiot proof, the more idiots see it as a challenge.
Simon
-- Edited by smwhiskey on Tuesday 16th of May 2023 04:30:41 PM
deverall11 said
05:15 PM May 16, 2023
smwhiskey wrote:
....
As a society we're going to learn one day that the more we try to make the world idiot proof, the more idiots see it as a challenge.
Simon
-- Edited by smwhiskey on Tuesday 16th of May 2023 04:30:41 PM
You are so right. I thought I was the only one here who felt the same.
Are We Lost said
05:57 PM May 16, 2023
smwhiskey wrote: My van is 15 years old and my tug is 20 years old. Neither has the wiring or hardware suitable for running a video feed from the rear of the van to display in the front of the 4WD and it would neither be a cheap nor simple exercise to retrofit it.
Cheap is relative to what you think is good value. But it would be a simple exercise to fit one. I did mine myself and it is just a matter of fitting the camera(s), running the cables and then connecting to a 12v source in the 4WD. No other connections needed apart from connecting/disconnecting when attaching the van.
My video unit sits on the dashboard and I only put it there when towing.
As for value, I feel naked without it because it gives an excellent view of what is behind. A good driver is always aware of other vehicles around. You would be used to looking in your rear vision mirror frequently when not towing. It becomes second nature to do so. With a camera on the back of the van it restores that view, only better, as if the van were not there.
To me rear vision while driving is greater benefit than the close up view when reversing.
yobarr said
08:53 PM May 16, 2023
deverall11 wrote:
smwhiskey wrote:
....
As a society we're going to learn one day that the more we try to make the world idiot proof, the more idiots see it as a challenge.
Simon
You are so right. I thought I was the only one here who felt the same.
SC, it is a shameful reality that Mr Plod and his cohorts never ever do anything about those two important things when confronted with them on the road. Ignorance about the subject or just could not be bothered.
It's a bit harsh to blame Mr Plod for idiots failing to comply - I am unaware of any in traffic division, that will ignore obvious breaches.
The RMS has camera systems recording all vehicles and details to the point of looking up women's skirts - perhaps they could follow up on obvious breaches.
Possum, you must live in a world of fantasy. A day does not go by when I witness offences ignored by none other the Mr Plod.
Going through a red light in Qld. Endemic frequented by bogans.
As I mentioned most of them probably are not familiar with caravan towing compliances. If I was to be sarcastic I would put
it to you that there is more to be gotten from issuing a speeding fine then dealing with a non compliant caravan tower. Why?
Probably because the $ rate is higher for a speeding fine then a non compliant caravan. This is before we get into the argument
that would ensue. Many more $ rate least in NSW. Also do not forget that Police instructions are directly proportional to the
number of deaths. Not too many or not enough involving caravan but a lot more involving motorcycles and/or speeding drivers.
Not sure if this is still the case but at one point speeding was the default reason if police could not determine the cause of
an accident resulting in death.
To deverall11 - you would be correct in stating "most of them probably are not familiar with caravan towing compliances" but totally incorrect in the insinuation of instructions to Police to intentionally ignore some offences in favour of the offence with higher fines/penalties.
Modern Policing in Australia has specialists in many areas - Traffic Infringement is one of those "specialist areas" - Every "Divy Van" you see on the road doesn't have Highway Officers in them nor in fact does every vehicle in Police livery.
By the same token - every Police Officer - does their best to serve and protect.
May I suggest that; one day you attend your local Police station or Court House to meet some of the general "Mr/Ms Plod" and enquire of them their; Qualifications, Background, Attendance to Domestics, Trauma Situations, Family calls advising of the death of members of the Family, the Mortuary attendances, Personal life-threatening situations, violence and disrespect from the public, etc.
It is very easy and brave to sit behind a keyboard and offer criticisms of what you obviously have sweet F A knowledge. I personally find it insulting to say the least.
The Belmont Bear said
08:11 AM May 17, 2023
I have a Jeep GC so I have to use a WDH over a certain weight I did away with the HR and now use the Andersen hitch which I find a to be a lot better. I dont have clearview mirrors fitted I use Milencos which are good but I have lost 1 or 2 over the years. I lost the drivers side one last year in outback Qld and as hard as I tried i couldnt buy replacements until I got back to the coast at Bundaberg. To get me through I put my remaining mirror on the drivers side and that combined with the rear camera got me through until I got the replacement set. We are about to head off on a lap and this time I am taking 2 sets of Milencos with me just in case. I find it funny SC that you seem intolerant of people that you believe are not competant when reversing or are newbies yet not so quick to criticise solo females with the same level of skill - whats the difference ? If you want to be critical of someones competence to tow a van safely does it really matter what sex they are ?
BB
Dougwe said
11:31 AM May 17, 2023
I have Clearview mirrors and a full time camera on back of the Aluminium Tent so no drama there.
I'm thinking of a set like in the pic but a McHitch. A good set up then.
edit...Ooops, forgot the most important thing. Thinking if changing to LC.
-- Edited by Dougwe on Wednesday 17th of May 2023 11:34:42 AM
Bill B said
01:00 PM May 17, 2023
Dougwe wrote:
I have Clearview mirrors and a full time camera on back of the Aluminium Tent so no drama there.
I'm thinking of a set like in the pic but a McHitch. A good set up then.
edit...Ooops, forgot the most important thing. Thinking if changing to LC.
-- Edited by Dougwe on Wednesday 17th of May 2023 11:34:42 AM
I assume that would a 200 Doug, not one of those mine/farm utes
Dougwe said
01:21 PM May 17, 2023
Natch, Bill.
yobarr said
02:23 PM May 17, 2023
Bill B wrote:
I assume that would a 200 Doug, not one of those mine/farm utes
That would depend entirely on whether he wanted to tow heavy loads safely, or just be a poser. Cheers
deverall11 said
03:00 PM May 17, 2023
Possum3 wrote:
.......
To deverall11 - you would be correct in stating "most of them probably are not familiar with caravan towing compliances" but totally incorrect in the insinuation of instructions to Police to intentionally ignore some offences in favour of the offence with higher fines/penalties.
Modern Policing in Australia has specialists in many areas - Traffic Infringement is one of those "specialist areas" - Every "Divy Van" you see on the road doesn't have Highway Officers in them nor in fact does every vehicle in Police livery.
By the same token - every Police Officer - does their best to serve and protect.
May I suggest that; one day you attend your local Police station or Court House to meet some of the general "Mr/Ms Plod" and enquire of them their; Qualifications, Background, Attendance to Domestics, Trauma Situations, Family calls advising of the death of members of the Family, the Mortuary attendances, Personal life-threatening situations, violence and disrespect from the public, etc.
It is very easy and brave to sit behind a keyboard and offer criticisms of what you obviously have sweet F A knowledge. I personally find it insulting to say the least.
Maybe or maybe not I have sweet F A knowledge as you put it, BUT, my eyes do not deceive me. Noisy and illegally lowered cars are ignored for example.
Same with noisy motorcycles. However a speeding motorcycle always gets their attention.
I did attend a Police Station recently as a matter of fact and yes they were very nice and polite, BUT, still no action on electric scooters which can travel in excess
of 60kph. I also made calls and submitted data to PoliceLink regarding a drug dealer in our street. Also provided a two page list of cars, make & model, number
plated time and dates of regular visitors. The long and short of it is this person is still there, still dealing and life goes on. He has custody of two kids, lives in a rental and has no job.
I am sure you would have a reason/excuse, since you seem to know more about Police and are intent on defending the indefensible, as to why this is not policed.
Or to put it in simple terms: Why is this person still dealing???
In most cases I have seen, anything over and above issuing traffic fines seems beyond their capabilities. And yes doing some of the tasks you mention
are not easy. I am not brave sitting behind a keyboard and offer criticism as I would happily say it to their faces. Problem is they would not like it. Sometimes
the truth hurts.
What also seem to muddy the waters is these nut jobs who join because an ego issue (call it small dick syndrome) who feel powerful behind a badge and the
restraint put upon them by pollies. Got fined for parking across MY driveway by one of those Small Dick guys. If this is not ego, what is?
I have the minimum of respect of Mr Plod, he/she has not given me enough proof as to why they deserve my respect.
Speed cameras hidden on the side of the road, behind garbage bins, at the end of an off-ramp when you come off doing 110kph into a 60kph zone.
You mention Domestic Violence. They more often then not arrive on the scene after the event even though they had prior knowledge etc....
End Of Rant Possum
Bill B said
09:17 AM May 18, 2023
yobarr wrote:
Bill B wrote:
I assume that would a 200 Doug, not one of those mine/farm utes
That would depend entirely on whether he wanted to tow heavy loads safely, or just be a poser. Cheers
Can't help yourself can you
deverall11 said
09:47 AM May 18, 2023
yobarr wrote:
....
That would depend entirely on whether he wanted to tow heavy loads safely, or just be a poser. Cheers
Poser or not, fact of the matter is they are a very comfortable vehicle for an SUV.
yobarr said
09:55 AM May 18, 2023
deverall11 wrote:
yobarr wrote:
....
That would depend entirely on whether he wanted to tow heavy loads safely, or just be a poser. Cheers
Poser or not, fact of the matter is they are a very comfortable vehicle for an SUV.
Many times I have said that they're a powervul, comfortable and very popular car, but they have not a snowflake's chance in hell of safely towing 3500kg. When looking to but a car to tow my 3500kg van I first tried one of these, as well as many other vehicles, but none was up to the task.Cheers
Dougwe said
10:02 AM May 18, 2023
I've decided to stay with my trusted Colorado. It can tow up to 3500kg and has a 300 kg tow ball weight. With a Mchitch and WDH fitted towing capabilities will be endless.
Gundog said
10:37 AM May 18, 2023
Doug I assume your Aluminum TeePee is under 3000kg the your all ok, the collie is better than a farm ute.
Mariner30 said
10:49 AM May 18, 2023
Dougwe wrote:
I've decided to stay with my trusted Colorado. It can tow up to 3500kg and has a 300 kg tow ball weight. With a Mchitch and WDH fitted towing capabilities will be endless.
Have you seen any of the youtube videos from folk who have had their loaded vehicle and caravan weighed by one of the ' new' outfits that have set up weighing owners vehicles, sometimes with disappointing results,
Watched one the day....forgotten which one.
200 series LC with all the ' normal ' accesories
Tandem axle 'van
The caravan got a gold star for it's weight but the LC failed badly, partly due to the weight of the accesories and updates to tyres, suspension, bull bar, winch etc etc blah blah.
The owner of said vehicle was in a quandry about what to do next,
Just something to think about.
Gundog said
04:28 PM May 18, 2023
Mariner30 wrote:
Dougwe wrote:
I've decided to stay with my trusted Colorado. It can tow up to 3500kg and has a 300 kg tow ball weight. With a Mchitch and WDH fitted towing capabilities will be endless.
Have you seen any of the youtube videos from folk who have had their loaded vehicle and caravan weighed by one of the ' new' outfits that have set up weighing owners vehicles, sometimes with disappointing results,
Watched one the day....forgotten which one.
200 series LC with all the ' normal ' accesories
Tandem axle 'van
The caravan got a gold star for it's weight but the LC failed badly, partly due to the weight of the accesories and updates to tyres, suspension, bull bar, winch etc etc blah blah.
The owner of said vehicle was in a quandry about what to do next,
Just something to think about.
I think I watched the one you did, yep it needs to go on a weight reduction program, however I'm not a fan of portable weighing plates because they need to calibrated as it's easy to knock them out of calibration before each weighing, other concerns is the weighing location was it level?
yobarr said
04:29 PM May 18, 2023
Mariner30 wrote:
Dougwe wrote:
I've decided to stay with my trusted Colorado. It can tow up to 3500kg and has a 300 kg tow ball weight. With a Mchitch and WDH fitted towing capabilities will be endless.
Have you seen any of the youtube videos from folk who have had their loaded vehicle and caravan weighed by one of the ' new' outfits that have set up weighing owners vehicles, sometimes with disappointing results,
Watched one the day....forgotten which one.
200 series LC with all the ' normal ' accesories
Tandem axle 'van
The caravan got a gold star for it's weight but the LC failed badly, partly due to the weight of the accesories and updates to tyres, suspension, bull bar, winch etc etc blah blah.
The owner of said vehicle was in a quandry about what to do next,
Just something to think about.
You are, of course, right Graham, but I am bit busy driving for next couple of days so I'll have to wait until the weekend to reply.
Like the Ram 1500 and several other popular models, the LC200 cannot safely tow 3500kg as a PIG trailer.
WDH and McHitch do little to help, and actually make things worse, but I have posted this stuff many times. Cheers
One of my best mates probably won't talk to me this week but here goes. I'm mentioning the WDH things, haha. He knows who he is.
We have just finished caretaking a caravan park for the past 2 weeks and by hell eyes wide open at what we saw and hear.
To all the Landcruiser owners out there who are gospel with all their talk on "I would never use those things," well all I can say is more than 80% of LC's that came through the park had the WDH's fitted. They all said they would not hook up without them. So, I am of the opinion after witnessing it myself that once on the keyboard all these people change their minds and type BS on social media and forums to make things look good. Also includes Nissan Patrols, DMax's, BT 50's, and others I can't remember as a lot of different vehicles come through nearly all had them. Very few and I mean very few didn't have them,
Towing mirrors and talking extended mirrors for towing, what are they. The number of vehicles coming into park without them was scary at the least. Couldn't reverse, had no idea where they were heading and a nightmare. I don't know how many I had to walk beside the door to direct them in and save the park property from being run into or destroyed. Then we also had the newbies, the big Dodge Rams with a screen on the dash as big as a television hooked up to the reverse camera and don't even look at it. 3 or 4 goes to get into a spot. The mind boggles. Mind you when the odd solo lady comes in and asks if I could help them get in, it was no skin off my nose to back in for them. Then the odd one would say, I need a challenge, walk beside the car and tell me where I am going wrong, you really don't mind helping.
Now to sit back and relax and let the manager worry about that stuff till called in again
those two important things when confronted with them on the road.
Ignorance about the subject or just could not be bothered.
deverall11 it was reported last week in a post elsewhere of a very serious accident in WA where 3 vans travelling in convoy and none had any extended mirrors on, hence the emergency vehicles couldn't get past as quick as they wanted to. Those people had no idea who was following them. There was a big debate about it in regards to life and death situations where time can be of the essence in these sorts of cases
I feel that every one towing a caravan should have have rearview camera on back of the van connected to its own screen.
With one you can see thaat vehicle in your blind spot.
It's a bit harsh to blame Mr Plod for idiots failing to comply - I am unaware of any in traffic division, that will ignore obvious breaches.
The RMS has camera systems recording all vehicles and details to the point of looking up women's skirts - perhaps they could follow up on obvious breaches.
Possum, you must live in a world of fantasy. A day does not go by when I witness offences ignored by none other the Mr Plod.
Going through a red light in Qld. Endemic frequented by bogans.
As I mentioned most of them probably are not familiar with caravan towing compliances. If I was to be sarcastic I would put
it to you that there is more to be gotten from issuing a speeding fine then dealing with a non compliant caravan tower. Why?
Probably because the $ rate is higher for a speeding fine then a non compliant caravan. This is before we get into the argument
that would ensue. Many more $ rate least in NSW. Also do not forget that Police instructions are directly proportional to the
number of deaths. Not too many or not enough involving caravan but a lot more involving motorcycles and/or speeding drivers.
Not sure if this is still the case but at one point speeding was the default reason if police could not determine the cause of
an accident resulting in death.
Good idea but currently not accepted as an alternative to mirrors. Presumably because it is a device which
may fail.
SC, yep seen it when we were travelling and even called out on the CB to try making them aware that a truck
was behind and possibly needed to get passed. Seems that for some as soon as they hitch a caravan, brain gets left behind.
If I don't check to if see theres a vehicle behind me (or have the missus watching) before I reverse then I deserve everything I get. If said vehicle wants to sit in my blindspot when I'm travelling forward then they deserve everything they get.
I'm getting sick of having to spend money and/or change the way I do things just because of the idiots of the world. My van is 15 years old and my tug is 20 years old. Neither has the wiring or hardware suitable for running a video feed from the rear of the van to display in the front of the 4WD and it would neither be a cheap nor simple exercise to retrofit it.
As a society we're going to learn one day that the more we try to make the world idiot proof, the more idiots see it as a challenge.
Simon
-- Edited by smwhiskey on Tuesday 16th of May 2023 04:30:41 PM
You are so right. I thought I was the only one here who felt the same.
Cheap is relative to what you think is good value. But it would be a simple exercise to fit one. I did mine myself and it is just a matter of fitting the camera(s), running the cables and then connecting to a 12v source in the 4WD. No other connections needed apart from connecting/disconnecting when attaching the van.
My video unit sits on the dashboard and I only put it there when towing.
As for value, I feel naked without it because it gives an excellent view of what is behind. A good driver is always aware of other vehicles around. You would be used to looking in your rear vision mirror frequently when not towing. It becomes second nature to do so. With a camera on the back of the van it restores that view, only better, as if the van were not there.
To me rear vision while driving is greater benefit than the close up view when reversing.
To deverall11 - you would be correct in stating "most of them probably are not familiar with caravan towing compliances" but totally incorrect in the insinuation of instructions to Police to intentionally ignore some offences in favour of the offence with higher fines/penalties.
Modern Policing in Australia has specialists in many areas - Traffic Infringement is one of those "specialist areas" - Every "Divy Van" you see on the road doesn't have Highway Officers in them nor in fact does every vehicle in Police livery.
By the same token - every Police Officer - does their best to serve and protect.
May I suggest that; one day you attend your local Police station or Court House to meet some of the general "Mr/Ms Plod" and enquire of them their; Qualifications, Background, Attendance to Domestics, Trauma Situations, Family calls advising of the death of members of the Family, the Mortuary attendances, Personal life-threatening situations, violence and disrespect from the public, etc.
It is very easy and brave to sit behind a keyboard and offer criticisms of what you obviously have sweet F A knowledge. I personally find it insulting to say the least.
I have a Jeep GC so I have to use a WDH over a certain weight I did away with the HR and now use the Andersen hitch which I find a to be a lot better. I dont have clearview mirrors fitted I use Milencos which are good but I have lost 1 or 2 over the years. I lost the drivers side one last year in outback Qld and as hard as I tried i couldnt buy replacements until I got back to the coast at Bundaberg. To get me through I put my remaining mirror on the drivers side and that combined with the rear camera got me through until I got the replacement set. We are about to head off on a lap and this time I am taking 2 sets of Milencos with me just in case. I find it funny SC that you seem intolerant of people that you believe are not competant when reversing or are newbies yet not so quick to criticise solo females with the same level of skill - whats the difference ? If you want to be critical of someones competence to tow a van safely does it really matter what sex they are ?
BB
I have Clearview mirrors and a full time camera on back of the Aluminium Tent so no drama there.
I'm thinking of a set like in the pic but a McHitch. A good set up then.
edit...Ooops, forgot the most important thing. Thinking if changing to LC.
-- Edited by Dougwe on Wednesday 17th of May 2023 11:34:42 AM
I assume that would a 200 Doug, not one of those mine/farm utes
I assume that would a 200 Doug, not one of those mine/farm utes
That would depend entirely on whether he wanted to tow heavy loads safely, or just be a poser. Cheers
Maybe or maybe not I have sweet F A knowledge as you put it, BUT, my eyes do not deceive me. Noisy and illegally lowered cars are ignored for example.
Same with noisy motorcycles. However a speeding motorcycle always gets their attention.
I did attend a Police Station recently as a matter of fact and yes they were very nice and polite, BUT, still no action on electric scooters which can travel in excess
of 60kph. I also made calls and submitted data to PoliceLink regarding a drug dealer in our street. Also provided a two page list of cars, make & model, number
plated time and dates of regular visitors. The long and short of it is this person is still there, still dealing and life goes on. He has custody of two kids, lives in a rental and has no job.
I am sure you would have a reason/excuse, since you seem to know more about Police and are intent on defending the indefensible, as to why this is not policed.
Or to put it in simple terms: Why is this person still dealing???
In most cases I have seen, anything over and above issuing traffic fines seems beyond their capabilities. And yes doing some of the tasks you mention
are not easy. I am not brave sitting behind a keyboard and offer criticism as I would happily say it to their faces. Problem is they would not like it. Sometimes
the truth hurts.
What also seem to muddy the waters is these nut jobs who join because an ego issue (call it small dick syndrome) who feel powerful behind a badge and the
restraint put upon them by pollies. Got fined for parking across MY driveway by one of those Small Dick guys. If this is not ego, what is?
I have the minimum of respect of Mr Plod, he/she has not given me enough proof as to why they deserve my respect.
Speed cameras hidden on the side of the road, behind garbage bins, at the end of an off-ramp when you come off doing 110kph into a 60kph zone.
You mention Domestic Violence. They more often then not arrive on the scene after the event even though they had prior knowledge etc....
End Of Rant Possum
Can't help yourself can you
Poser or not, fact of the matter is they are a very comfortable vehicle for an SUV.
Many times I have said that they're a powervul, comfortable and very popular car, but they have not a snowflake's chance in hell of safely towing 3500kg. When looking to but a car to tow my 3500kg van I first tried one of these, as well as many other vehicles, but none was up to the task.Cheers
Doug I assume your Aluminum TeePee is under 3000kg the your all ok, the collie is better than a farm ute.
Have you seen any of the youtube videos from folk who have had their loaded vehicle and caravan weighed by one of the ' new' outfits that have set up weighing owners vehicles, sometimes with disappointing results,
Watched one the day....forgotten which one.
200 series LC with all the ' normal ' accesories
Tandem axle 'van
The caravan got a gold star for it's weight but the LC failed badly, partly due to the weight of the accesories and updates to tyres, suspension, bull bar, winch etc etc blah blah.
The owner of said vehicle was in a quandry about what to do next,
Just something to think about.
I think I watched the one you did, yep it needs to go on a weight reduction program, however I'm not a fan of portable weighing plates because they need to calibrated as it's easy to knock them out of calibration before each weighing, other concerns is the weighing location was it level?
You are, of course, right Graham, but I am bit busy driving for next couple of days so I'll have to wait until the weekend to reply.
Like the Ram 1500 and several other popular models, the LC200 cannot safely tow 3500kg as a PIG trailer.
WDH and McHitch do little to help, and actually make things worse, but I have posted this stuff many times. Cheers