Thanks for asking me for an opinion, but, as Graham has posted, there already is a thread about this elsewhere on our forum. Complicated, heavy way of wasting money trying to make a vehicle do things for which it never was designed.
Smaller van or more suitable (read "bigger") vehicle is a far more effective method.
WDH is not the cure-all that many consider it to be. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Friday 31st of March 2023 07:30:02 PM
Not sure what you mean or what you are getting at. Found this on another forum and was
curious on what Yobarr's were on that. Cannot put it any simpler.
Maybe you are questioning dieselarmy. That's the website. Where that name came from,
let you to investigate since you seem so inquisitive.
Anyone who has been on this forum for more than five minutes would be well aware of Yobarr's views on this subject. It's been done to a dinner mate.
yobarr said
12:53 PM Apr 1, 2023
Anyone who has been on this forum for more than five minutes would be well aware of Yobarr's views on this subject. It's been done to a dinner mate.
Thanks Phil, for your observation. Rote learning often works, and SLOWLY, I believe, members are beginning to see that when it comes to weights etc I know what I'm talking about.
However,some comments that I see show only that my posts are being looked at, but not actually read and understood.
Many times I have explained why WDHs are often counter-productive when used in the way that members use them. Extra weight, extra towball overhang, more weight on car's rear axle before they're tensioned, and greater effects of yaw. Easily understood, surely?
A WDH can be useful, however, if it is used not to try to make a vehicle tow a van that is altogether too heavy for it, but to distribute weight in a heavily loaded car that is towing a syitably sized van.
Remember, If safety is of any concern, always the weight on the wheels of the car should be at least 10% greater than the weight on the wheels of the van. Simple physics that minimises chances of the tail wagging the dog . Cheers
deverall11 said
01:50 PM Apr 1, 2023
Magnarc wrote:
Anyone who has been on this forum for more than five minutes would be well aware of Yobarr's views on this subject. It's been done to a dinner mate.
You may have these views about Yobarr. He is not on my Xmas card list and I do not necessarily agree with his
assessment on WDH. However, given that I do not have the time, the inclination, no longer own a caravan and do not
see myself owning another one anytime soon, I am always curious about the subject and at least I refrain from
making borderline derogatory comments about him. I am sure he means well and perhaps one day I will do the research
on the subject and make an informed decision as to whether or not he knows what he's talking about.
Negative comments about Yobarr and others for that matter are not necessary.
Just out of curiosity, can you prove that his comments on WHD are wrong? How much do you know about this
subject and are you qualified in anyway shape or form to challenge him?
KJB said
02:34 PM Apr 1, 2023
deverall11 wrote:
Magnarc wrote:
Anyone who has been on this forum for more than five minutes would be well aware of Yobarr's views on this subject. It's been done to a dinner mate.
You may have these views about Yobarr. He is not on my Xmas card list and I do not necessarily agree with his
assessment on WDH. However, given that I do not have the time, the inclination, no longer own a caravan and do not
see myself owning another one anytime soon, I am always curious about the subject and at least I refrain from
making borderline derogatory comments about him. I am sure he means well and perhaps one day I will do the research
on the subject and make an informed decision as to whether or not he knows what he's talking about.
Negative comments about Yobarr and others for that matter are not necessary.
Just out of curiosity, can you prove that his comments on WHD are wrong? How much do you know about this
subject and are you qualified in anyway shape or form to challenge him?
Your Post is a "breathe of fresh air"........open to discussing the Topic sensibly ....without taking every opportunity to just hound the Poster... KB
Magnarc said
08:59 AM Apr 2, 2023
Deverall and KB,
Your interpretation of my post is wrong. Many moons ago when the issue of hitches was first aired, I thought that Chris and Montie were on the right track so I ditched the hitch. In my case, if the van is level,stowed correctly and adheres to its correct weight, I have had no problems.
My observation that "it was done to a dinner" was in reference to the amount of posts on this subject which, invariably end up going round in circles and, in some cases, personal attacks.
Chris understood what I meant, hence his reply. I don't always agree with him but I do on this subject I hope this sets the record straight?
deverall11 said
10:47 AM Apr 2, 2023
Magnarc wrote:
Deverall and KB, Your interpretation of my post is wrong. Many moons ago when the issue of hitches was first aired, I thought that Chris and Montie were on the right track so I ditched the hitch. In my case, if the van is level,stowed correctly and adheres to its correct weight, I have had no problems.
My observation that "it was done to a dinner" was in reference to the amount of posts on this subject which, invariably end up going round in circles and, in some cases, personal attacks.
Chris understood what I meant, hence his reply. I don't always agree with him but I do on this subject I hope this sets the record straight?
As per my original post, I found this on another forum. The fact that it was prominent did not prompt me to check if it was already
mentioned here. In finding this I was simply curious as to what Yobarr's view were on this since weights, WHDs and whatever else
in that field seems to be his pet subject. That's it. No invitation to make smart remarks about him. We all have our assessment on
his views on this subject and I also asked him if it was a 'fetish'. Tongue in cheek.
Found this on another forum.
Yobarr, your comments please.
https://www.dieselarmy.com/tech/towing/ ... ion-hitch/
Already active
https://thegreynomads.activeboard.com/t69275909/better-towing-with-bws-new-continuum-weight-distribution-hit/
Thanks for asking me for an opinion, but, as Graham has posted, there already is a thread about this elsewhere on our forum. Complicated, heavy way of wasting money trying to make a vehicle do things for which it never was designed.
Smaller van or more suitable (read "bigger") vehicle is a far more effective method.
WDH is not the cure-all that many consider it to be. Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Friday 31st of March 2023 07:30:02 PM
Mischievous post?
Not sure what you mean or what you are getting at. Found this on another forum and was
curious on what Yobarr's were on that. Cannot put it any simpler.
Maybe you are questioning dieselarmy. That's the website. Where that name came from,
let you to investigate since you seem so inquisitive.
Anyone who has been on this forum for more than five minutes would be well aware of Yobarr's views on this subject. It's been done to a dinner mate.
Thanks Phil, for your observation. Rote learning often works, and SLOWLY, I believe, members are beginning to see that when it comes to weights etc I know what I'm talking about.
However,some comments that I see show only that my posts are being looked at, but not actually read and understood.
Many times I have explained why WDHs are often counter-productive when used in the way that members use them. Extra weight, extra towball overhang, more weight on car's rear axle before they're tensioned, and greater effects of yaw. Easily understood, surely?
A WDH can be useful, however, if it is used not to try to make a vehicle tow a van that is altogether too heavy for it, but to distribute weight in a heavily loaded car that is towing a syitably sized van.
Remember, If safety is of any concern, always the weight on the wheels of the car should be at least 10% greater than the weight on the wheels of the van. Simple physics that minimises chances of the tail wagging the dog . Cheers
You may have these views about Yobarr. He is not on my Xmas card list and I do not necessarily agree with his
assessment on WDH. However, given that I do not have the time, the inclination, no longer own a caravan and do not
see myself owning another one anytime soon, I am always curious about the subject and at least I refrain from
making borderline derogatory comments about him. I am sure he means well and perhaps one day I will do the research
on the subject and make an informed decision as to whether or not he knows what he's talking about.
Negative comments about Yobarr and others for that matter are not necessary.
Just out of curiosity, can you prove that his comments on WHD are wrong? How much do you know about this
subject and are you qualified in anyway shape or form to challenge him?
Your Post is a "breathe of fresh air"........open to discussing the Topic sensibly ....without taking every opportunity to just hound the Poster... KB
Your interpretation of my post is wrong. Many moons ago when the issue of hitches was first aired, I thought that Chris and Montie were on the right track so I ditched the hitch. In my case, if the van is level,stowed correctly and adheres to its correct weight, I have had no problems.
My observation that "it was done to a dinner" was in reference to the amount of posts on this subject which, invariably end up going round in circles and, in some cases, personal attacks.
Chris understood what I meant, hence his reply. I don't always agree with him but I do on this subject I hope this sets the record straight?
As per my original post, I found this on another forum. The fact that it was prominent did not prompt me to check if it was already
mentioned here. In finding this I was simply curious as to what Yobarr's view were on this since weights, WHDs and whatever else
in that field seems to be his pet subject. That's it. No invitation to make smart remarks about him. We all have our assessment on
his views on this subject and I also asked him if it was a 'fetish'. Tongue in cheek.
Nuff sed Deverall.