It's too hard to describe so I'll simply say "See the photograph."
Suggestions please for getting the thingie (what's it called?) back into the roller and, ideally, keeping it there. In the past slackening the awning and using a pair of pliers to move it 3 or 4mm at a time has partly worked but it seems to work its way out again. Ideas guys?
My awning has a small screw to secure the rope into the sail groove.
Mine was doing the same or similar thing and the dealer did the fitting of the screw so I am to assume it might be a common fix.
My awning did it when I was staying in one spot for a while and the prevailing wind seemed to help it move towards one end. As I pulled mine back toward the correct spot I would roll the awning up and down which seem to free up the rope bit and after each roll it moved a bit easier.
I am not that good with mechanical things but that is what my dealer advised me until I could return the van to him. Short overnight stops didnt seem to cause a problem.
-- Edited by RickJ on Saturday 21st of January 2023 02:54:07 PM
Possum3 said
03:19 PM Jan 21, 2023
Mike, is the beading coming out of awning eye? If so, slacken the vinyl, push it back in after cleaning with metho, squeeze in some rubber glue (Kwik Grip).
Also purchase or make awning tie-down clips www.ebay.com.au/itm/154863554793
Tying down on roller axle not a recommended practice.
TimTim said
06:10 PM Jan 21, 2023
That is called the spline or some use the term piping. Generally it is stitched at the ends of the awning to stop it coming out and as suggested a small screw placed at the end to stop the awning sliding.
Those clips suggested by Possum are great. Hope you use screw pegs too.
Magnarc said
08:08 AM Jan 22, 2023
Hi Mike,
Possum has picked up on something that I was about to. Using the roller spindle to tie down is not a good idea. The spindle is the weakest part of the roller and if it gets bent out of whack the chances are that you could be stuck with an awning that will not rollup.
I always put the tie down round the main support arm. I was given this tip many moons ago by a dealer in WA.
Mike Harding said
08:18 AM Jan 23, 2023
Thanks for you inputs people, much appreciated.
Possum: very good tip thank you, clips are on order.
Whenarewethere said
09:20 AM Jan 23, 2023
I bought rope from Whitworth Marine to replace all the rubbish supplied with our awning, like every awning.
Two very useful knots are:
Tautline knot,
Truckers knot (which can be doubled up for 1:4 ratio).
Not to forget the Bowline knot.
Long Weekend said
02:09 PM Jan 24, 2023
Tried the circlips suggested by Possum3 but didn't like them - I found that they actually rotated the roller just enough to put slack in the awning.
Instead I replaced the screws holding the cap onto the top of the main support arm with 8mm stainless steel lifting eye NUTS secured with 8mm stainless steel screws.
Then use snap spring hook carabiners, also 8mm stainless steel on the guy ropes. When pegging down the awning the carabiners are simply snapped onto the ring eyes, then on packing up the carabiners are unsnapped - no knots to untie.
I know that there are cheap carabiners on the market that would be unsuitable to the job, but the 8mm S/S ones are pretty strong - in fact, the ones I bought are rated for mountain climbing.
Having the lifting eye on top of the main support arm no pressure is placed on roller spindle as noted by Magnarc.
Now, back to the original topic! Like Riki1 the spline in our awning roller is held in place by a small self-tapper screw. It has never moved since we have had the van.
Murray
PS: - lifting eyes come in two types, nut or bolt. The bolt has a screw for fastening with a nut, although mostly the screws are generally short. Whereas the nut has to be fixed with a bolt or screw of a length suitable for the job.
bruceg said
12:50 PM Mar 18, 2023
Move the rope into position, drill small pilot hole, fit self tapping screw. Done.
It's too hard to describe so I'll simply say "See the photograph."
Suggestions please for getting the thingie (what's it called?) back into the roller and, ideally, keeping it there. In the past slackening the awning and using a pair of pliers to move it 3 or 4mm at a time has partly worked but it seems to work its way out again. Ideas guys?
Mike,
My awning has a small screw to secure the rope into the sail groove.
Mine was doing the same or similar thing and the dealer did the fitting of the screw so I am to assume it might be a common fix.
My awning did it when I was staying in one spot for a while and the prevailing wind seemed to help it move towards one end.
As I pulled mine back toward the correct spot I would roll the awning up and down which seem to free up the rope bit and after each roll it moved a bit easier.
I am not that good with mechanical things but that is what my dealer advised me until I could return the van to him.
Short overnight stops didnt seem to cause a problem.
-- Edited by RickJ on Saturday 21st of January 2023 02:54:07 PM
Also purchase or make awning tie-down clips www.ebay.com.au/itm/154863554793
Tying down on roller axle not a recommended practice.
That is called the spline or some use the term piping. Generally it is stitched at the ends of the awning to stop it coming out and as suggested a small screw placed at the end to stop the awning sliding.
Those clips suggested by Possum are great. Hope you use screw pegs too.
Hi Mike,
Possum has picked up on something that I was about to. Using the roller spindle to tie down is not a good idea. The spindle is the weakest part of the roller and if it gets bent out of whack the chances are that you could be stuck with an awning that will not rollup.
I always put the tie down round the main support arm. I was given this tip many moons ago by a dealer in WA.
Thanks for you inputs people, much appreciated.
Possum: very good tip thank you, clips are on order.
I bought rope from Whitworth Marine to replace all the rubbish supplied with our awning, like every awning.
Two very useful knots are:
Tautline knot,
Truckers knot (which can be doubled up for 1:4 ratio).
Not to forget the Bowline knot.
Instead I replaced the screws holding the cap onto the top of the main support arm with 8mm stainless steel lifting eye NUTS secured with 8mm stainless steel screws.
Then use snap spring hook carabiners, also 8mm stainless steel on the guy ropes. When pegging down the awning the carabiners are simply snapped onto the ring eyes, then on packing up the carabiners are unsnapped - no knots to untie.
I know that there are cheap carabiners on the market that would be unsuitable to the job, but the 8mm S/S ones are pretty strong - in fact, the ones I bought are rated for mountain climbing.
Having the lifting eye on top of the main support arm no pressure is placed on roller spindle as noted by Magnarc.
Now, back to the original topic! Like Riki1 the spline in our awning roller is held in place by a small self-tapper screw. It has never moved since we have had the van.
Murray
PS: - lifting eyes come in two types, nut or bolt. The bolt has a screw for fastening with a nut, although mostly the screws are generally short. Whereas the nut has to be fixed with a bolt or screw of a length suitable for the job.
Move the rope into position, drill small pilot hole, fit self tapping screw. Done.
bye.
Not sure about your problem but I was told years ago NOT to put guy ropes on the awning rod as yours is!!
Dick.
One of these on each arm.
The spline rope had a small screw, which went through the rope into the roller, as bruceg has pointed out