Coming to the realisation that the Grey Nomad forum, is not the place for me anymore. Their are some many vindictive, and anal retentive members that post on here. The fights, the arguments, the denigration of other members, it is running like a vicious Facebook forum. Starting to become irrelevant. I just came across another section on this forum, where the vindictivenous, was really bad, so i think it is about time that I pulled the plug, and maybe on all the forums, that I am a member of, except one or two, because it seems, their are a bunch of people whom don't want to be nice to others, and I need to be around people whom are nice to one another this time in my life. Their is only one forum, that i am a member of where people don't stick the knife into, an Australian Camping forum; this forum, is definitely not it. I will come here for info, but things will have to mightely change for me to be an active member again. Goodbye.
Dougwe said
05:23 AM Jun 16, 2022
Sadly, I understand what you are saying Ric.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there Ric.
Radar said
06:44 AM Jun 16, 2022
Yes, it a bit like that.
Ric, enjoy the bush.
Ivan 01 said
08:37 AM Jun 16, 2022
Bicyclecamper wrote:
Coming to the realisation that the Grey Nomad forum, is not the place for me anymore. Their are some many vindictive, and anal retentive members that post on here. The fights, the arguments, the denigration of other members, it is running like a vicious Facebook forum. Starting to become irrelevant. I just came across another section on this forum, where the vindictivenous, was really bad, so i think it is about time that I pulled the plug, and maybe on all the forums, that I am a member of, except one or two, because it seems, their are a bunch of people whom don't want to be nice to others, and I need to be around people whom are nice to one another this time in my life. Their is only one forum, that i am a member of where people don't stick the knife into, an Australian Camping forum; this forum, is definitely not it. I will come here for info, but things will have to mightely change for me to be an active member again. Goodbye.
What you have described is not leaving.
What you have described is Lurking.
I decided to leave this forum and some others while I was not well. I was receiving a treatment which worked for the ailment but could mess with your thoughts. This was one of the side effects.
I removed my account and when I was ready to rejoin I applied with a note to admin that it was me coming back.
The level of tolerance is not the responsibility of a member but more related to moderation. The annoying part of moderation on here is that an entire topic can be deleted with the press of a button because of a couple of rude or personal comments are made.
That action shows no respect toward the majority who have provided valuable and quite often, technical information to another member.
Many of those offenders Have never, from their history of posts, ever supplied any advice relating to the base of this forum. I would doubt very much that those malingerers have ever owned a caravan, a camper or a tent and are easily identified. It could be easy.
C Ya bikeman enjoy your lurking.
-- Edited by Ivan 01 on Thursday 16th of June 2022 08:47:29 AM
Gundog said
08:59 AM Jun 16, 2022
So you have had a gut full of things, sorry but to blunt to the point.
Why do you need to advertise your feelings, if you don't like whats happening, just leave say nothing.
If you are missed some may query as to your circumstances.
Otherwise you can always look in as a ghost by not logging on.
Buzz Lightbulb said
09:08 AM Jun 16, 2022
I'm very sorry to hear you leave byclecamper. Hopefully, when Cindy is well again, she'll take action and remove those offenders to make the forum a better place.
I understand why you're doing it. I have also been continually attacked even after trying to make peace.
86GTS said
09:15 AM Jun 16, 2022
I've owned a caravan for 12 years, its the only one that I'll ever own.
I don't call myself a caravaner even though I've towed it around mostly bush camping for 120,000kms.
To me its just a box on wheels that I sleep in.
Basically I'm not interested in caravans.
The thing that I like about this forum is travel & destinations along with safety issues & the like.
I've noticed lately that some members have been digging up rubbish from the net, placing a link to it & starting a new thread.
The majority of it is trash that any idiot could dig up if they were bored.
I'm also interested in the health & lifestyle issues posted here as well as financial interests.
I feel that the forum is well worth being a member of despite some arguments.
peter67 said
09:37 AM Jun 16, 2022
Totally agree GTS.
Ivan 01 said
09:45 AM Jun 16, 2022
Buzz Lightbulb wrote:
I'm very sorry to hear you leave byclecamper. Hopefully, when Cindy is well again, she'll take action and remove those offenders to make the forum a better place.
I understand why you're doing it. I have also been continually attacked even after trying to make peace.
Lets hope so Buzz.
I hope Cindy gets well, that must have been why she is not answering PM s of late.
Wanda said
09:53 AM Jun 16, 2022
Sadly for Rick already things have got, well, lets just say "not very understanding or caring".
Rick, "lurk" if you want, who really cares what it is called or if it matters!!
If you want to drop in from time to time or just sit back and not comment your choice mate and you are well and truly entitled to do so without ridicule
travel safe
Ian
SoloMC said
10:06 AM Jun 16, 2022
Bicyclecamper
I met a cyclist bloke recently on the Oodnadatta track. i dont suppose that was you?
Ivan 01 said
10:08 AM Jun 16, 2022
SoloMC wrote:
Bicyclecamper I met a cyclist bloke recently on the Oodnadatta track. i dont suppose that was you?
We will see if he has really gone or if he is still watching his post for a reaction.
Wanda said
10:10 AM Jun 16, 2022
Ivan 01 wrote:
SoloMC wrote:
Bicyclecamper I met a cyclist bloke recently on the Oodnadatta track. i dont suppose that was you?
We will see if he has really gone or if he is still watching his post for a reaction.
DOES IT MATTER?
Rob Driver said
10:40 AM Jun 16, 2022
This is Angela Driver here this morning.
Rob is having a little break from here as well.
Recently he was bombarded with rudeness from a certain member which was followed by arguments from all sides.
It was reported and removed.
I have written to Cindy but have not had a reply so I do wish her well if she is ill.
Really some of you fellows are acting so childishly but when one is just is looking on you can easily see who the main ringleader is.
I would almost bet that if he were gone the status would balance.
Maybe now Bicycle camper is only looking on now instead of trying to participate he might see as other can the outstanding problem that can be broken down to a couple of participants.
Please be kind to each other and try to ignore those who are posting under false pretences.
If they dont attract an audience they will go to another *street corner*
Regards
Angie.
-- Edited by Rob Driver on Thursday 16th of June 2022 10:44:47 AM
bratboy said
06:49 PM Jun 16, 2022
With all due respect bicyclecamper if you want to leave just leave , exit stage left . This isn't a train station so no need for the public service announcement.
Wanda said
07:34 PM Jun 16, 2022
No wonder he is leaving.
I see bratboy, a member since march 2022
Say no more
I have no doubt some verballing will follow
Some mothers do have em...............sadly
Ian
yobarr said
07:41 PM Jun 16, 2022
Wanda wrote:
No wonder he is leaving. I see bratboy, a member since march 2022 Say no more I have no doubt some verballing will follow Some mothers do have em...............sadly Ian
For once, Ian,I agree with you. Cheers
Wanda said
07:48 PM Jun 16, 2022
Thanks Yobarr, can't believe I said that
Absolutely no need for bratboys comment
Cheers
Ian
-- Edited by Wanda on Thursday 16th of June 2022 07:48:47 PM
bratboy said
07:52 PM Jun 16, 2022
Can't see how long I have been a member hear having anything to do with the conversation , I'm simply stating facts if you want to leave leave .if you want attention come on moaning that everyone is mean to you and your going to take your bat and ball and leave .
Wanda said
09:13 PM Jun 16, 2022
Clever, hey
yobarr said
09:34 PM Jun 16, 2022
bratboy wrote:
Can't see how long I have been a member hear having anything to do with the conversation , I'm simply stating facts if you want to leave leave .if you want attention come on moaning that everyone is mean to you and your going to take your bat and ball and leave .
Many members have great friendships with other members, built up over years of sharing ideas and knowledge etc. Common courtesy would dictate that if one of them was planning on leaving the forum he would at least say "Goodbye" to others rather than drift off into the sunset. Cheers
bratboy said
09:00 AM Jun 17, 2022
Wanda that's interesting , my original post simply state my opinion ( which I believe I'm entitled to ) and you come along and attack me , and I'm the problem ,,, best buy yourself a mirror old mate .
deverall11 said
09:13 AM Jun 17, 2022
bratboy wrote:
With all due respect bicyclecamper if you want to leave just leave , exit stage left . This isn't a train station so no need for the public service announcement.
I have to agree, maybe choice of words could've been better. Not sure what Bicyclecamper's intentions actually are. He indicates
he's leaving, but, still wants to be around to read and maybe add comments. That is not leaving or resigning. Don't really understand
the purpose of the post other then to highlight he has been mistreated in some way. That is different to leaving.
If the latter was/is the case, simply say so and just hang/lurk in the background. If some observe that his posts are fewer,
a comment will be made and he may choose to respond.
In other forum, when a member leaves/resign, they take steps that essentially puts their 'accounts' in suspense and rarely
keep on posting or reading posts. They have made that decision. You can still read their previous post but cannot add.
Good luck mate, hope you sort yourself out.
Clarky 1 said
09:32 AM Jun 17, 2022
Hi Bicyclecamper,
Have a rest of you feel you need it. It doesnt matter if you are lurking or leaving. Even as a non member you can still read he posts on here.
Angie Drivers post above pretty much says it all.
She said this;
Maybe now Bicycle camper is only looking on now instead of trying to participate he might see as other can the outstanding problem that can be broken down to a couple of participants.
Please be kind to each other and try to ignore those who are posting under false pretences.
If they dont attract an audience they will go to another *street corner*
Regards
Angie.
Some good advice right there.
Wanda said
10:41 AM Jun 17, 2022
bratboy wrote:
Wanda that's interesting , my original post simply state my opinion ( which I believe I'm entitled to ) and you come along and attack me , and I'm the problem ,,, best buy yourself a mirror old mate .
Harden up PRINCESS, attack, you say. REALLY, maybe you should read it again!!
Well, had you NOT ATTACKED BC, or actually just shut your mouth, this conversation would not have degraded to this.
Sometimes princess opinions are not needed
Ian
bratboy said
11:13 AM Jun 17, 2022
cant for the life of me see where as you suggest I ATTACKED bc in my original post . just stated the bleeding obvious "if you want to leave just leave " but hey if your so delicate that my ORIGINAL post upset you so much maybe YOU should pack your purse and depart .
-- Edited by bratboy on Friday 17th of June 2022 11:15:27 AM
Buzz Lightbulb said
01:36 PM Jun 17, 2022
I can understand why Byclecamper is leaving and I don't understand why this thread is being challenged. When Mike Harding wasn't posting people were concerned about him. The same could happen for Byclecamper so announcing his intention to leave is just a heads up.
I've been on hundreds of lists/forums. I've never been banned and this is the ONLY one where people have been so rude, uncaring, and insulting and then when questioned about that behaviour, get told 'toughen up' or something similar.
Do we really want to continue that behaviour? There are some polarising topics but why do people have to make personal attacks when someone doesn't have the same point of view?
Previously the attacks were personal (and still are) but now they've became vindictive and vengeful. What do people hope to achieve by doing that? The results can't be good.
Bobdown said
01:39 PM Jun 17, 2022
See you later Ric, hope you don't get saddle sores.
Coming to the realisation that the Grey Nomad forum, is not the place for me anymore. Their are some many vindictive, and anal retentive members that post on here. The fights, the arguments, the denigration of other members, it is running like a vicious Facebook forum. Starting to become irrelevant. I just came across another section on this forum, where the vindictivenous, was really bad, so i think it is about time that I pulled the plug, and maybe on all the forums, that I am a member of, except one or two, because it seems, their are a bunch of people whom don't want to be nice to others, and I need to be around people whom are nice to one another this time in my life. Their is only one forum, that i am a member of where people don't stick the knife into, an Australian Camping forum; this forum, is definitely not it. I will come here for info, but things will have to mightely change for me to be an active member again. Goodbye.
Keep Safe on the roads and out there Ric.
Yes, it a bit like that.
Ric, enjoy the bush.
What you have described is not leaving.
What you have described is Lurking.
I decided to leave this forum and some others while I was not well. I was receiving a treatment which worked for the ailment but could mess with your thoughts. This was one of the side effects.
I removed my account and when I was ready to rejoin I applied with a note to admin that it was me coming back.
The level of tolerance is not the responsibility of a member but more related to moderation. The annoying part of moderation on here is that an entire topic can be deleted with the press of a button because of a couple of rude or personal comments are made.
That action shows no respect toward the majority who have provided valuable and quite often, technical information to another member.
Many of those offenders Have never, from their history of posts, ever supplied any advice relating to the base of this forum. I would doubt very much that those malingerers have ever owned a caravan, a camper or a tent and are easily identified. It could be easy.
C Ya bikeman enjoy your lurking.
-- Edited by Ivan 01 on Thursday 16th of June 2022 08:47:29 AM
So you have had a gut full of things, sorry but to blunt to the point.
Why do you need to advertise your feelings, if you don't like whats happening, just leave say nothing.
If you are missed some may query as to your circumstances.
Otherwise you can always look in as a ghost by not logging on.
I'm very sorry to hear you leave byclecamper. Hopefully, when Cindy is well again, she'll take action and remove those offenders to make the forum a better place.
I understand why you're doing it. I have also been continually attacked even after trying to make peace.
I don't call myself a caravaner even though I've towed it around mostly bush camping for 120,000kms.
To me its just a box on wheels that I sleep in.
Basically I'm not interested in caravans.
The thing that I like about this forum is travel & destinations along with safety issues & the like.
I've noticed lately that some members have been digging up rubbish from the net, placing a link to it & starting a new thread.
The majority of it is trash that any idiot could dig up if they were bored.
I'm also interested in the health & lifestyle issues posted here as well as financial interests.
I feel that the forum is well worth being a member of despite some arguments.
Lets hope so Buzz.
I hope Cindy gets well, that must have been why she is not answering PM s of late.
Rick, "lurk" if you want, who really cares what it is called or if it matters!!
If you want to drop in from time to time or just sit back and not comment your choice mate and you are well and truly entitled to do so without ridicule
travel safe
Ian
We will see if he has really gone or if he is still watching his post for a reaction.
DOES IT MATTER?
This is Angela Driver here this morning.
Rob is having a little break from here as well.
Recently he was bombarded with rudeness from a certain member which was followed by arguments from all sides.
It was reported and removed.
I have written to Cindy but have not had a reply so I do wish her well if she is ill.
Really some of you fellows are acting so childishly but when one is just is looking on you can easily see who the main ringleader is.
I would almost bet that if he were gone the status would balance.
Maybe now Bicycle camper is only looking on now instead of trying to participate he might see as other can the outstanding problem that can be broken down to a couple of participants.
Please be kind to each other and try to ignore those who are posting under false pretences.
If they dont attract an audience they will go to another *street corner*
Regards
Angie.
-- Edited by Rob Driver on Thursday 16th of June 2022 10:44:47 AM
I see bratboy, a member since march 2022
Say no more
I have no doubt some verballing will follow
Some mothers do have em...............sadly
Ian
For once, Ian,I agree with you. Cheers
Thanks Yobarr, can't believe I said that
Absolutely no need for bratboys comment
Cheers
Ian
-- Edited by Wanda on Thursday 16th of June 2022 07:48:47 PM
Clever, hey
Many members have great friendships with other members, built up over years of sharing ideas and knowledge etc. Common courtesy would dictate that if one of them was planning on leaving the forum he would at least say "Goodbye" to others rather than drift off into the sunset. Cheers
I have to agree, maybe choice of words could've been better. Not sure what Bicyclecamper's intentions actually are. He indicates
he's leaving, but, still wants to be around to read and maybe add comments. That is not leaving or resigning. Don't really understand
the purpose of the post other then to highlight he has been mistreated in some way. That is different to leaving.
If the latter was/is the case, simply say so and just hang/lurk in the background. If some observe that his posts are fewer,
a comment will be made and he may choose to respond.
In other forum, when a member leaves/resign, they take steps that essentially puts their 'accounts' in suspense and rarely
keep on posting or reading posts. They have made that decision. You can still read their previous post but cannot add.
Good luck mate, hope you sort yourself out.
Hi Bicyclecamper,
Have a rest of you feel you need it.
It doesnt matter if you are lurking or leaving.
Even as a non member you can still read he posts on here.
Angie Drivers post above pretty much says it all.
She said this;
Maybe now Bicycle camper is only looking on now instead of trying to participate he might see as other can the outstanding problem that can be broken down to a couple of participants.
Please be kind to each other and try to ignore those who are posting under false pretences.
If they dont attract an audience they will go to another *street corner*
Regards
Angie.
Some good advice right there.
Harden up PRINCESS, attack, you say. REALLY, maybe you should read it again!!
Well, had you NOT ATTACKED BC, or actually just shut your mouth, this conversation would not have degraded to this.
Sometimes princess opinions are not needed
Ian
cant for the life of me see where as you suggest I ATTACKED bc in my original post . just stated the bleeding obvious "if you want to leave just leave " but hey if your so delicate that my ORIGINAL post upset you so much maybe YOU should pack your purse and depart .
-- Edited by bratboy on Friday 17th of June 2022 11:15:27 AM
I can understand why Byclecamper is leaving and I don't understand why this thread is being challenged. When Mike Harding wasn't posting people were concerned about him. The same could happen for Byclecamper so announcing his intention to leave is just a heads up.
I've been on hundreds of lists/forums. I've never been banned and this is the ONLY one where people have been so rude, uncaring, and insulting and then when questioned about that behaviour, get told 'toughen up' or something similar.
Do we really want to continue that behaviour? There are some polarising topics but why do people have to make personal attacks when someone doesn't have the same point of view?
Previously the attacks were personal (and still are) but now they've became vindictive and vengeful. What do people hope to achieve by doing that? The results can't be good.
See you later Ric, hope you don't get saddle sores.
Cheers Bob