Giving a pic of yourself, and maybe, identification details in your sign up page, is a guarantee, that someone will steal your ID, so I would delete this if I were you. It is one reason, why people try and stay anonymous online. It would be nice if we could safely do this, but you just cannot take the risk, sorry mate.
Mein said
12:27 AM Jun 7, 2022
Giving a pic of yourself, and maybe, identification details in your sign up page, is a guarantee, that someone will steal your ID, so I would delete this if I were you. It is one reason, why people try and stay anonymous online. It would be nice if we could safely do this, but you just cannot take the risk, sorry mate.
Okay, then. I'll set a second challenge. Identify me!
yobarr said
08:35 AM Jun 7, 2022
Mein wrote:
Giving a pic of yourself, and maybe, identification details in your sign up page, is a guarantee, that someone will steal your ID, so I would delete this if I were you. It is one reason, why people try and stay anonymous online. It would be nice if we could safely do this, but you just cannot take the risk, sorry mate.
Okay, then. I'll set a second challenge. Identify me!
Silly challenge. Would you want any such identification details published here? Cheers
Magnarc said
08:41 AM Jun 7, 2022
Mein, can I suggest that you seriously consider getting some help?????
oldbloke said
08:47 AM Jun 7, 2022
Plenty of people upload pics of themselves on forums. IMO the risk of identity theft is pretty low. You need a lot more that just a pic. I don't do it but if mein wants to that's his decision. He certainly does not need help.
yobarr said
08:53 AM Jun 7, 2022
oldbloke wrote:
Plenty of people upload pics of themselves on forums. IMO the risk of identity theft is pretty low. You need a lot more that just a pic. I don't do it but if mein wants to that's his decision. He certainly does not need help.
Hmmmm. Neil,surely you jest? Public forum so I will say no more, but I notice that your surname, which once was public, has now been abbreviated.. Why would this be? Cheers
Whenarewethere said
09:29 AM Jun 7, 2022
Don't think I have even taken a selfie, failing memory maybe. I think most people born pre Smartphoneozoic Era don't suffer from vanity disease.
Mein said
09:29 AM Jun 7, 2022
Silly challenge.
Not a silly challenge. An IMPOSSIBLE challenge.
The most ill-informed persons in this world are those who believe that they are actually knowledgeable.
iana said
09:58 AM Jun 7, 2022
I think you are all being really mein!
Bobdown said
10:00 AM Jun 7, 2022
This is Eddie, he's nearly 1 but doesn't have an email address. PS I had to take the selfie cos he can't use the phone.
Plenty of people upload pics of themselves on forums. IMO the risk of identity theft is pretty low. You need a lot more that just a pic. I don't do it but if mein wants to that's his decision. He certainly does not need help.
Hmmmm. Neil,surely you jest? Public forum so I will say no more, but I notice that your surname, which once was public, has now been abbreviated.. Why would this be? Cheers
So, Chris, how many hours have you spent searching the net looking for me? Not many people would bother recoding or remembering a fellow members surname, would they? Unless they had less than good intentions.
I abbreviated it so the trolls here would find it difficult to find me when I realised there were trolls here. Why else?
oldbloke said
10:48 AM Jun 7, 2022
yobarr wrote:¥
oldbloke wrote:
Plenty of people upload pics of themselves on forums. IMO the risk of identity theft is pretty low. You need a lot more that just a pic. I don't do it but if mein wants to that's his decision. He certainly does not need help.
Hmmmm. Neil,surely you jest? Public forum so I will say no more, but I notice that your surname, which once was public, has now been abbreviated.. Why would this be? Cheers
Further to the above Yobarr,
In reality you are the reason I changed that. I realised after several comments you had made (including details about myself) that you are recording details about me. This is a serious concern to me as only people with intentions other than good do this sort of thing. Some weeks ago I asked Cindy to delete one of my posts for just that reason.
Don't be surprised if I delete my own membership here. (I'm sure this will please you) unlike a few gullible members here I am on to you, as are many others, and like the many that have simply "disappeared" from the forum. It was once a good forum but has gone down hill due to just a couple of members have regularly started arguments. I really hope the mods here wake up to those members soon.
I am a member of another forum where people often post pics of themselves and even family members. If there is the slightest hint of trolling or members being overly argumentative the members are promptly deleted/ banned. As you were from the caravans forum. I can only hope I guess.
Why? Because as the better members leave only the crap will remain. Then like some other forums, it will die.
Dougwe said
10:56 AM Jun 7, 2022
My photo is in my AV and freely available to the spy's out there. Save you looking, I'm also in the History books.
OB. My braves are just itching to get a couple of scalps , mate
yobarr said
11:44 AM Jun 7, 2022
oldbloke wrote:
yobarr wrote:
oldbloke wrote:
Plenty of people upload pics of themselves on forums. IMO the risk of identity theft is pretty low. You need a lot more that just a pic. I don't do it but if mein wants to that's his decision. He certainly does not need help.
Hmmmm. Neil,surely you jest? Public forum so I will say no more, but I notice that your surname, which once was public, has now been abbreviated.. Why would this be? Cheers
So, Chris, how many hours have you spent searching the net looking for me? Not many people would bother recoding or remembering a fellow members surname, would they? Unless they had less than good intentions.
I abbreviated it so the trolls here would find it difficult to find me when I realised there were trolls here. Why else?
Neil, you can be assured that I have absolutely no interest in your life, and that I have NEVER kept records of you or any other member of any forum, other than what I retain in my memory. And you can be sure that I have better things to do than waste my time "searching the net" looking for you or anybody else, for that matter. The purpose of my post was to support Ric's assertion and to warn Mein, and others, that it is not at all difficult to research identity. No malicious intent, just a bit of friendly advice fir others. Hope this clears things for you? Cheers
Mein said
11:45 AM Jun 7, 2022
Knowing a person's surname is not enough to steal someone's I.D., or achieve most other nefarious activities.
Think about the hundreds of thousands of newspaper reports which can be read online and in which people's first and surnames are stated.
The FACT is, social media platforms are the primary source of information that criminals want and use. On social media platforms, such as Facebook, some people (foolishly) give their full name, their date of birth, their place of birth, the names of schools they attended, the names of cities in which they live / have lived, the names of family members, and more.
And to take the discussion a little further, I genuinely don't understand how people fall prey to online scammers.
I recently advertised some items for sale on Gumtree (and other websites) following which I received several SMS (text messages sent to my phone) enquiring about the items and asking me to reply to a given email address.
What normal person sends an SMS and asks that a reply be sent to an email address???
I mean, talk about alarm bells!!
And, my final word: it pays to be cautious but it costs (time, inconvenience, lost opportunities) to be irrationally wary.
Ivan 01 said
11:45 AM Jun 7, 2022
Mein wrote:
Have you ever wondered what other forum members look like?
Have you ever wondered what 'Mein' looks like?
Well, here I am:-
I concede that I'm not very good at taking selfies.
And, incidentally, 'Mein' comes from my secondary email address, as in, meinmackay@xxxx.com.
So, are you up for the challenge?
Are you willing to show your face?
Hi Mein,
It is not today or tomorrow that your identity may become known to the unscrupulous.
It is a history of little details that are provided each time you post here or on other public pages.
That is how people lose their identities.
You dont know that the bloke behind the bar (as an example only) in the local pub is not one who will trade on getting your identity
The info he gains and coupled with other info will go a long way to assisting him with identity theft.
I think we all know it goes without saying that a certain social media platform has by default very slack privacy settings. That forum provides an endless supply of identities available to the unscrupulous.
Even the simple matter of purchasing an item off a public forum is racked with danger.
I will be very surprised if any member on here actually accepts your invitation to identify themselve.
I do know some do use their own photo in their avatar and they do so at their own risk as it is personally perceived.
Are We Lost said
12:19 PM Jun 7, 2022
There is another aspect of this. The original post seeks other members to do the same. While Mein may well have taken the appropriate steps, and be difficult to identify, that may not be the case with someone who would innocently respond, and have their personal details recorded in their profile. Sure, the risk is very low but we should be discouraging such actions.
For example, the forum asks members for their date of birth and full name, then makes those details available for all to see. I believe they should be kept private. My profile has no last name and a fictitious DOB so if someone follows that path it will be a fruitless exercise.
-- Edited by Are We Lost on Tuesday 7th of June 2022 12:25:13 PM
oldbloke said
12:22 PM Jun 7, 2022
Mein wrote:
Knowing a person's surname is not enough to steal someone's I.D., or achieve most other nefarious activities.
Think about the hundreds of thousands of newspaper reports which can be read online and in which people's first and surnames are stated.
The FACT is, social media platforms are the primary source of information that criminals want and use. On social media platforms, such as Facebook, some people (foolishly) give their full name, their date of birth, their place of birth, the names of schools they attended, the names of cities in which they live / have lived, the names of family members, and more.
And to take the discussion a little further, I genuinely don't understand how people fall prey to online scammers.
I recently advertised some items for sale on Gumtree (and other websites) following which I received several SMS (text messages sent to my phone) enquiring about the items and asking me to reply to a given email address.
What normal person sends an SMS and asks that a reply be sent to an email address???
I mean, talk about alarm bells!!
And, my final word: it pays to be cautious but it costs (time, inconvenience, lost opportunities) to be irrationally wary.
Your pretty right. However over the last year or so I have become more cautious. On this forum in particular.
bratboy said
12:26 PM Jun 7, 2022
And another thing , how do we know that photo is even a photo of mein . It could be a random photo he got off the internet .main I think you need to post a copy of your birth certificate and driver's licence just so we are sure it's you .
oldbloke said
12:29 PM Jun 7, 2022
bratboy wrote:
And another thing , how do we know that photo is even a photo of mein . It could be a random photo he got off the internet .main I think you need to post a copy of your birth certificate and driver's licence just so we are sure it's you .
Ha, ha. Well done.
Ivan 01 said
12:30 PM Jun 7, 2022
Hi AWL.
I just noticed the DOB field.
I am glad I left it blank.
I am shocked that today there is a long list of those with birthdays today.
Ivan 01 said
12:36 PM Jun 7, 2022
bratboy wrote:
And another thing , how do we know that photo is even a photo of mein . It could be a random photo he got off the internet .main I think you need to post a copy of your birth certificate and driver's licence just so we are sure it's you .
Haha,
He looks a bit older than the guy I found on FB. even though they both are in Mackay.
A little info each time there is a post soon adds up.
Mike Harding said
12:41 PM Jun 7, 2022
Many years ago when the internet was no more than a toddler and the World Wide Web didn't exist I had a spirited debate with an Australian guy on the newsgroup sci.electronics.design - we were debating the value of ISO9000 iirc, he was for it, I was, partly, against it - no rudeness but the discussion was spirited. And, of course, back then we mostly used our real name or something close to them.
About three months later I found myself sitting across the desk of the aforementioned guy trying to convince him to award a $50k contract to me - I knew who he was but, thank God!, he didn't know who I was :)
That was the point at which I decided a little anonymity was a good thing on the internet :)
dogbox said
02:35 PM Jun 7, 2022
is that not what people do on face book ,post pictures of themselves their friends an family.
an discuss their personal detail in public for all the world to see then cry when they get hacked an all their information they thought was private becomes public .
if you want to meet up with someone "private message" them
86GTS said
02:42 PM Jun 7, 2022
This is me a few months ago just before I had my first haircut since Covid-19 began. I went to a ladies hair salon & donated my hair to make wigs for cancer patients. I now have a short crewcut.
Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc; etc. No way, not for this little black duck.
Mike Harding said
02:49 PM Jun 7, 2022
Magnarc wrote:
Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc; etc. No way, not for this little black duck.
You and me both :)
Bicyclecamper said
03:51 PM Jun 7, 2022
In one role I did in my past in the 80's, a side job, was to investigate people. Their is one member on this forum, whom, I found their full name, and address right down to their house, not that I needed that info . But I also found their house on google satelite. I deleted it all. It was just a study for myself, on how much info, people put on their home pages, and as I use to do that job, I thought: I wonder, if I still have the same investigating ability as I did in the past, and I do. Unscrupulous people could take advantage of the public persona people supply on the net for whatever reason they deem necessary.
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Tuesday 7th of June 2022 04:18:43 PM
yobarr said
03:58 PM Jun 7, 2022
Mike Harding wrote:
Magnarc wrote:
Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc; etc. No way, not for this little black duck.
Have you ever wondered what other forum members look like?
Have you ever wondered what 'Mein' looks like?
Well, here I am:-
I concede that I'm not very good at taking selfies.
And, incidentally, 'Mein' comes from my secondary email address, as in, meinmackay@xxxx.com.
So, are you up for the challenge?
Are you willing to show your face?
Giving a pic of yourself, and maybe, identification details in your sign up page, is a guarantee, that someone will steal your ID, so I would delete this if I were you. It is one reason, why people try and stay anonymous online. It would be nice if we could safely do this, but you just cannot take the risk, sorry mate.
Okay, then. I'll set a second challenge. Identify me!
Silly challenge. Would you want any such identification details published here? Cheers
Mein, can I suggest that you seriously consider getting some help?????
Hmmmm. Neil,surely you jest? Public forum so I will say no more, but I notice that your surname, which once was public, has now been abbreviated.. Why would this be? Cheers
Don't think I have even taken a selfie, failing memory maybe. I think most people born pre Smartphoneozoic Era don't suffer from vanity disease.
Silly challenge.
Not a silly challenge. An IMPOSSIBLE challenge.
The most ill-informed persons in this world are those who believe that they are actually knowledgeable.
This is Eddie, he's nearly 1 but doesn't have an email address. PS I had to take the selfie cos he can't use the phone.
Cheers Bob
So, Chris, how many hours have you spent searching the net looking for me? Not many people would bother recoding or remembering a fellow members surname, would they? Unless they had less than good intentions.
I abbreviated it so the trolls here would find it difficult to find me when I realised there were trolls here. Why else?
Further to the above Yobarr,
In reality you are the reason I changed that. I realised after several comments you had made (including details about myself) that you are recording details about me. This is a serious concern to me as only people with intentions other than good do this sort of thing. Some weeks ago I asked Cindy to delete one of my posts for just that reason.
Don't be surprised if I delete my own membership here. (I'm sure this will please you) unlike a few gullible members here I am on to you, as are many others, and like the many that have simply "disappeared" from the forum. It was once a good forum but has gone down hill due to just a couple of members have regularly started arguments. I really hope the mods here wake up to those members soon.
I am a member of another forum where people often post pics of themselves and even family members. If there is the slightest hint of trolling or members being overly argumentative the members are promptly deleted/ banned. As you were from the caravans forum. I can only hope I guess.
Why? Because as the better members leave only the crap will remain. Then like some other forums, it will die.
OB. My braves are just itching to get a couple of scalps , mate
Neil, you can be assured that I have absolutely no interest in your life, and that I have NEVER kept records of you or any other member of any forum, other than what I retain in my memory. And you can be sure that I have better things to do than waste my time "searching the net" looking for you or anybody else, for that matter. The purpose of my post was to support Ric's assertion and to warn Mein, and others, that it is not at all difficult to research identity. No malicious intent, just a bit of friendly advice fir others. Hope this clears things for you? Cheers
Knowing a person's surname is not enough to steal someone's I.D., or achieve most other nefarious activities.
Think about the hundreds of thousands of newspaper reports which can be read online and in which people's first and surnames are stated.
The FACT is, social media platforms are the primary source of information that criminals want and use. On social media platforms, such as Facebook, some people (foolishly) give their full name, their date of birth, their place of birth, the names of schools they attended, the names of cities in which they live / have lived, the names of family members, and more.
And to take the discussion a little further, I genuinely don't understand how people fall prey to online scammers.
I recently advertised some items for sale on Gumtree (and other websites) following which I received several SMS (text messages sent to my phone) enquiring about the items and asking me to reply to a given email address.
What normal person sends an SMS and asks that a reply be sent to an email address???
I mean, talk about alarm bells!!
And, my final word: it pays to be cautious but it costs (time, inconvenience, lost opportunities) to be irrationally wary.
Hi Mein,
It is not today or tomorrow that your identity may become known to the unscrupulous.
It is a history of little details that are provided each time you post here or on other public pages.
That is how people lose their identities.
You dont know that the bloke behind the bar (as an example only) in the local pub is not one who will trade on getting your identity
The info he gains and coupled with other info will go a long way to assisting him with identity theft.
I think we all know it goes without saying that a certain social media platform has by default very slack privacy settings. That forum provides an endless supply of identities available to the unscrupulous.
Even the simple matter of purchasing an item off a public forum is racked with danger.
I will be very surprised if any member on here actually accepts your invitation to identify themselve.
I do know some do use their own photo in their avatar and they do so at their own risk as it is personally perceived.
There is another aspect of this. The original post seeks other members to do the same. While Mein may well have taken the appropriate steps, and be difficult to identify, that may not be the case with someone who would innocently respond, and have their personal details recorded in their profile. Sure, the risk is very low but we should be discouraging such actions.
For example, the forum asks members for their date of birth and full name, then makes those details available for all to see. I believe they should be kept private. My profile has no last name and a fictitious DOB so if someone follows that path it will be a fruitless exercise.
-- Edited by Are We Lost on Tuesday 7th of June 2022 12:25:13 PM
Your pretty right. However over the last year or so I have become more cautious. On this forum in particular.
Ha, ha. Well done.
I just noticed the DOB field.
I am glad I left it blank.
I am shocked that today there is a long list of those with birthdays today.
Haha,
He looks a bit older than the guy I found on FB. even though they both are in Mackay.
A little info each time there is a post soon adds up.
Many years ago when the internet was no more than a toddler and the World Wide Web didn't exist I had a spirited debate with an Australian guy on the newsgroup sci.electronics.design - we were debating the value of ISO9000 iirc, he was for it, I was, partly, against it - no rudeness but the discussion was spirited. And, of course, back then we mostly used our real name or something close to them.
About three months later I found myself sitting across the desk of the aforementioned guy trying to convince him to award a $50k contract to me - I knew who he was but, thank God!, he didn't know who I was :)
That was the point at which I decided a little anonymity was a good thing on the internet :)
an discuss their personal detail in public for all the world to see then cry when they get hacked an all their information they thought was private becomes public .
if you want to meet up with someone "private message" them
This is me a few months ago just before I had my first haircut since Covid-19 began.
I went to a ladies hair salon & donated my hair to make wigs for cancer patients.
I now have a short crewcut.
Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc; etc. No way, not for this little black duck.
You and me both :)
In one role I did in my past in the 80's, a side job, was to investigate people. Their is one member on this forum, whom, I found their full name, and address right down to their house, not that I needed that info . But I also found their house on google satelite. I deleted it all. It was just a study for myself, on how much info, people put on their home pages, and as I use to do that job, I thought: I wonder, if I still have the same investigating ability as I did in the past, and I do. Unscrupulous people could take advantage of the public persona people supply on the net for whatever reason they deem necessary.
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Tuesday 7th of June 2022 04:18:43 PM
And that makes three of us! Cheers.