All this proves is that the technology is still in its infancy. The more people are discouraged to buy one, for whatever
the reasons are, the longer it will take to develop the cars. I remember reading some years back how some manufacturers
use to bring one of their cars in Australia and drive around incognito in order to get some real world data.
We need to lobby the feds to subsidise EVs instead of fossil fuel companies.
The 2022 Ford F150 starts at just under $40,000.
Whenarewethere said
03:04 PM May 9, 2022
I prefer to use 98 in my petrol car as it gives my longer range. A bit irritating when you can only get 91 in the outback. Then I have to fill up extra containers. Takes 3 minutes to empty a 10L container into the tank.
Whether it's EV or petrol there are issues, or AdBlue if you are unlikely enough!
Gundog said
03:41 PM May 9, 2022
deverall11 wrote:
The 2022 Ford F150 starts at just under $40,000.
In the US after discounts & subsidies. will it ever get here or what will be the added cost for conversion to RHD.
Buzz Lightbulb said
11:41 AM May 10, 2022
Maybe they should have caught the train?
Gundog said
10:10 AM May 11, 2022
I thought we would get some meaningful discussion about the callenges that writer had encountered, rather than glib jibes.
My take is firstly the stated range of the vehicle was grossely overstated, perhaps EV car companies, should be compelled to show different range between city and highway driving.
The other glaring issue is the lack of charging stations particually high output connections along major arterial routes, I also picked up from the article that when multiple connections are being used it reduces the charging output ( just like internt the more users the slower it gets). It also shows a case for an ADR that all EV chargers be compatible.
I had no idea of the cost of recharging from these stations, but again from the article his forward journey cost $65.00.
I then looked up what charger was available in my current area, it appears that there is 1 CCS 50kW and 1 CHAdeMO 50kW.
Whats in your area?
Aus-Kiwi said
11:18 AM May 11, 2022
I can see a time when fast food restaurants ( well not that fast ?) set up drive in charging in car parks !! That is a few Big Macs to fill !
Buzz Lightbulb said
11:32 AM May 11, 2022
Gundog wrote:
I thought we would get some meaningful discussion about the callenges that writer had encountered, rather than glib jibes.
My take is firstly the stated range of the vehicle was grossely overstated, perhaps EV car companies, should be compelled to show different range between city and highway driving.
The other glaring issue is the lack of charging stations particually high output connections along major arterial routes, I also picked up from the article that when multiple connections are being used it reduces the charging output ( just like internt the more users the slower it gets). It also shows a case for an ADR that all EV chargers be compatible.
I had no idea of the cost of recharging from these stations, but again from the article his forward journey cost $65.00.
I then looked up what charger was available in my current area, it appears that there is 1 CCS 50kW and 1 CHAdeMO 50kW.
Whats in your area?
Most of the story was a whinge by the author.
The main point he's making is that there are not enough EV charging points across Australia. We're not likely to get those until there are decent emission standards in Australia. Then the EV manufacturers will take Australia seriously and provide decent models rather that dump ICE vehicles on us. Once that happens, a lot more people will buy EVs and then the demand for infrastructure will be there.
It doesn't really matter to me what EV charging facilities are in my area. If charge mine, when I get one, at home.
My point about catching a train was not a jibe. The children could be entertained and the parents could relax after making sure that the children aren't annoying other people. It's also reasonably good for the environment.
dabbler said
11:56 AM May 11, 2022
I don't believe we should get too caught up with individual stories and reviews of any product or pathway. They make an interesting diversionary read but they aren't a deal breaker or maker. With EVs and charging, the background circumstances are way too fluid to have any meaning. Both major parties have committed to progressing installation of EV chargers (and hopefully a maintenance program to match) and battery technology is quickly changing. Within the foreseeable future, this story is meaningless. FWIW, I know my EV's range both suburban and highway so my few long distance trips (700-800km) weren't a surprise, just like the same trip in my diesel Hilux. I'll add to Buzz's train comments ... With relocating to CQ, trips to our daughter in Sydney will predominantly be by train. Arrive rested, ready to enjoy her company and not need to shuffle the car every morning to avoid parking patrols.
dorian said
07:53 AM May 12, 2022
The energy consumption was about 2kWh per 10 km. Let's say a motorhome consumes twice as much, say 4kWh per 10 km. If we fit a 1200W solar awning, then we need about 3 or 4 hours of charging in full sunlight to replenish the energy consumed by 10 km of travel. I think that would make for a nice lap around the country, at least on bitumen, without having to make use of purpose built charging stations.
Aus-Kiwi said
10:50 AM May 12, 2022
Doran Im thinking this overcast week ? But yes when it comes or Atleast a good hybrid? Aha love diesel generators !
Here's and article about a journey from Melb to Sydney in an Hyundai EV.
I will not comment on the story prefering to allow you to draw your own conclusions, happy reading.
https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/driving-interstate-in-an-electric-vehicle/
the reasons are, the longer it will take to develop the cars. I remember reading some years back how some manufacturers
use to bring one of their cars in Australia and drive around incognito in order to get some real world data.
We need to lobby the feds to subsidise EVs instead of fossil fuel companies.
The 2022 Ford F150 starts at just under $40,000.
I prefer to use 98 in my petrol car as it gives my longer range. A bit irritating when you can only get 91 in the outback. Then I have to fill up extra containers. Takes 3 minutes to empty a 10L container into the tank.
Whether it's EV or petrol there are issues, or AdBlue if you are unlikely enough!
In the US after discounts & subsidies. will it ever get here or what will be the added cost for conversion to RHD.
Maybe they should have caught the train?
I thought we would get some meaningful discussion about the callenges that writer had encountered, rather than glib jibes.
My take is firstly the stated range of the vehicle was grossely overstated, perhaps EV car companies, should be compelled to show different range between city and highway driving.
The other glaring issue is the lack of charging stations particually high output connections along major arterial routes, I also picked up from the article that when multiple connections are being used it reduces the charging output ( just like internt the more users the slower it gets). It also shows a case for an ADR that all EV chargers be compatible.
I had no idea of the cost of recharging from these stations, but again from the article his forward journey cost $65.00.
I then looked up what charger was available in my current area, it appears that there is 1 CCS 50kW and 1 CHAdeMO 50kW.
Whats in your area?
Most of the story was a whinge by the author.
The main point he's making is that there are not enough EV charging points across Australia. We're not likely to get those until there are decent emission standards in Australia. Then the EV manufacturers will take Australia seriously and provide decent models rather that dump ICE vehicles on us. Once that happens, a lot more people will buy EVs and then the demand for infrastructure will be there.
It doesn't really matter to me what EV charging facilities are in my area. If charge mine, when I get one, at home.
My point about catching a train was not a jibe. The children could be entertained and the parents could relax after making sure that the children aren't annoying other people. It's also reasonably good for the environment.