I hear this morning on the news that N Djokovic is going to sue the Australian Govt for the sum of 6 million dollars which has been reported as this is the amount he would have earned had he played in Australia.
Will we have our hands in our pockets to support his legal actions?
-- Edited by Clarky 1 on Friday 21st of January 2022 09:44:53 AM
rgren2 said
10:36 AM Jan 21, 2022
From another site.
Let me get this straight - He got caught by the court trying to illegally play on the court, then appealed to a higher court to get back on the court, but he lost at court and didn't get back on the court so now he wants to take the court that wouldn't let him back on the court to court....
Clarky 1 said
10:41 AM Jan 21, 2022
rgren2 wrote:
From another site.
Let me get this straight - He got caught by the court trying to illegally play on the court, then appealed to a higher court to get back on the court, but he lost at court and didn't get back on the court so now he wants to take the court that wouldn't let him back on the court to court....
Haha
That sums it up. He may be Caught with egg on his face.
watsea said
10:49 AM Jan 21, 2022
Most champion players and champion athletes also have a very strong mental determination which has helped them get to where they are. They normally don't just give up when they come against something that is a bit more challenging. By the way, has he actually decided to sue? Previously, I had heard that he was only considering to sue.
-- Edited by watsea on Friday 21st of January 2022 10:51:10 AM
deverall11 said
11:23 AM Jan 21, 2022
Clarky 1 wrote:
rgren2 wrote:
From another site.
Let me get this straight - He got caught by the court trying to illegally play on the court, then appealed to a higher court to get back on the court, but he lost at court and didn't get back on the court so now he wants to take the court that wouldn't let him back on the court to court....
Haha
That sums it up. He may be Caught with egg on his face.
Had he not been allowed, back in Nov or Dec, to enter the country in the first place this fiasco would not have happened. If the Australian tax payer has to
foot the bill for a law suit, the blame lies squarely at the incompetence of the village idiot in charge of this country and his cronies and the jerk from TA.
DMaxer said
11:45 AM Jan 21, 2022
I would not be in a big hurry to laugh this one off. He came in on a visa and then it was cancelled, with the cancellation later ruled invalid as he was denied procedural fairness. This point was conceded by the Government lawyers. The issue is that he was then detained from the time of the invalid cancellation on the Friday morning until the court accepted the consent orders on the Monday afternoon. If the cancellation was invalid then he has a fairly strong case relying on the tort of false imprisonment. He just needs to be able to prove that he was detained, it was against his will and that it was unlawful. Game, set, match.
I recall about forty years ago when a lady paid a traffic fine that had been dealt with in court and then due to an administrative error, the payment was not noted. A warrant of commitment issued for the "unpaid fine" and the police arrested her and took her to the police station despite her protests. About two hours later her husband appeared with the receipt and she was released with a flurry of apologies. The government of the day settled that one with an ex gratia payment in the mid five figure bracket. I recall another incident when a lawyer was put in the cells by the sitting judge for contempt. He spent about an hour in the cells until released. It turned out the judge had not given him an opportunity to state his reply and that settled with an ex gratia payment of more than six figures. Look at the recent refuge detentions on Manus Island. In the New Guinea Constitution, false imprisonment is not allowed. This detention was deemed unconstitutional and that cost us millions. There are literally heaps of other cases where prisoners have been released later than their actual release date, people being held in custody after the bail has been ordered, they all end the same way. Most don't even need to commence the legal proceedings, there is a negotiated settlement made to avoid the probable costs that will be awarded in addition to the damages.
I think the other part of his claim that may have some legs is the fact that after the visa was granted and before arrival in Oz, he paid for airfares for him and his entourage, accommodation and all the rest. Even if he got knocked out in the first round, I think that prize money is 100K.
The six million is a bit of poetic licence as when you commence action in the Supreme Courts, the jurisdiction is unlimited and the actual amount is not stated in the claim. It is determined after evidence is given as to loss of income, expenses incurred and general damages.
If he takes this on I doubt if the Government would be game to run it. It will be settled with an ex gratia payment on terms not to be disclosed.
I wonder how many smart comments will be coming if he does a number on us using the laws that have been in existence for hundreds of years before being adopted here.
Is there anything that they touch that does not end up a total mess.
All that needed to be done in the first instance was to allow him to go to residence and to arrange to have this sorted within twenty four hours. But no, there were no votes in that.
-- Edited by DMaxer on Friday 21st of January 2022 11:48:30 AM
-- Edited by DMaxer on Friday 21st of January 2022 11:49:05 AM
Mike Harding said
02:38 PM Jan 21, 2022
Perhaps the Commonwealth could counter sue Djokovic for being a total plonker?
86GTS said
03:30 PM Jan 21, 2022
He'll most likely win the case & our taxes will pay for it.
Isn't that the way "modern life" goes these days?
DMaxer said
03:44 PM Jan 21, 2022
Maybe our fearless leader could get President Macron to put in a good word for us. What could possibly go wrong.
Mike Harding said
05:53 PM Jan 21, 2022
If he sues, successfully or not, I suspect he can say goodbye to a visa for at least three years.
Peter_n_Margaret said
06:18 PM Jan 21, 2022
Mike Harding wrote:
If he sues, successfully or not, I suspect he can say goodbye to a visa for at least three years.
And a pile of sponsors too.
Cheers,
Peter
DMaxer said
06:24 PM Jan 21, 2022
He won't have to issue proceedings. Once the intent is made to the Australian Government it will be resolved and a financial ex gratia payment will be made and not disclosed to anyone as part of the deal. A statement will then be released to say that their differences have been reconciled and we look forward to Novak coming back to Australia next year when the virus has been brought under control by our brilliant Government.
I have seen quite a few of these type of claims and I have never seen one with any merit that requires process to issue. . If they know they are on a loser they just settle.
End of story. It will be a done deal.
-- Edited by DMaxer on Friday 21st of January 2022 06:27:07 PM
Mike Harding said
06:48 PM Jan 21, 2022
And you don't think the press may be just the smallest bit interested to issue a FOI request?
Clarky 1 said
07:52 PM Jan 21, 2022
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Mike Harding wrote:
If he sues, successfully or not, I suspect he can say goodbye to a visa for at least three years.
And a pile of sponsors too.
Cheers,
Peter
I agree,
He would need to be very careful how he and his advisors approach this situation from here on.
It would be easier for him just to go and get vaccinated.
He could even turn the event into a winning post for him if he was half smart.
landy said
10:15 PM Jan 21, 2022
I can't see where he has any sort of case against the Government. In my opinion His visa was obtained with an invalid medical exemption which would appear to have been organized by Tennis Australia, on top of that he lied on his entry paperwork.
As for the detention he did have the option to leave on the next available flight so it was his choice to stay in detention.
Landy.
oldbloke said
11:54 PM Jan 21, 2022
I'm inclined to agree with Landy.
Yeh, got me beat why he just didn't get a couple of jabs considering what was at stake. Bit dull, our up himself if you ask me
dorian said
03:38 AM Jan 22, 2022
Djokovic is an unflushable turd that just won't go away.
DMaxer said
06:53 AM Jan 22, 2022
I understand your point Landry but the Minister stated that the dodgy application and his unvaccinated state were not the reasons the visa was cancelled, it was the possibility that non vaccinated people my be drawn into civil unrest. He was not free to leave even if he agreed to catch the next plane. He would have remained in detention until that time. Anyway, form your own view, I just gave you my opinion thats all.
oldbloke said
10:41 PM Jan 24, 2022
dorian wrote:
Djokovic is an unflushable turd that just won't go away.
So,, he's one of those massive floaters. :jawdrop:
Ivan 01 said
09:36 AM Jan 25, 2022
oldbloke wrote:
dorian wrote:
Djokovic is an unflushable turd that just won't go away.
So,, he's one of those massive floaters. :jawdrop:
They only happen when in someone elses house or in this case, country.
dorian said
04:28 PM Jan 28, 2022
Now the BCC has picked up on Djokovic's suspicious COVID tests.
If he follows through on his lawsuit threat, I'd like to see this sh1t hit the fan.
DMaxer said
08:10 PM Jan 28, 2022
His visa was ruled to be unlawfully cancelled Dorian. The Minister cancelled it on grounds that he was a risk to public order and did not have issues with him being unvaccinated.
This means nothing in respect to his claim.
littledick said
10:45 AM Jan 29, 2022
dorian wrote:
Djokovic is an unflushable turd that just won't go away.
I like that.
Dick.
landy said
09:53 PM Jan 29, 2022
littledick wrote:
dorian wrote:
Djokovic is an unflushable turd that just won't go away.
I like that.
Dick.
I don't like it littledick, It would be much much better if he was flushable.
86GTS said
04:18 AM Jan 31, 2022
DEAR NOVAK
HAVING A WONDERFUL TIME OVER HERE IN AUSTRALIA! WINNERS ARE GRINNERS, LOSERS CAN PLEASE THEMSELVES.
CHEERS RAFAEL
Craig1 said
09:23 AM Jan 31, 2022
And another loser who got his Kharma, arguing the whole tournament. Well done to the grunter.
Clarky 1 said
11:07 AM Jan 31, 2022
I cant bring myself to watch tennis however I did see the fun that the Special Ks had with their doubles win and no one would doubt Ash Barrys excellent but very humble actions when she won the tournament.
Those other upstart males defy the description of sportsmen in my view.
I hear this morning on the news that N Djokovic is going to sue the Australian Govt for the sum of 6 million dollars which has been reported as this is the amount he would have earned had he played in Australia.
Will we have our hands in our pockets to support his legal actions?
-- Edited by Clarky 1 on Friday 21st of January 2022 09:44:53 AM
Let me get this straight - He got caught by the court trying to illegally play on the court, then appealed to a higher court to get back on the court, but he lost at court and didn't get back on the court so now he wants to take the court that wouldn't let him back on the court to court....
Haha
That sums it up. He may be Caught
with egg on his face.
Most champion players and champion athletes also have a very strong mental determination which has helped them get to where they are. They normally don't just give up when they come against something that is a bit more challenging. By the way, has he actually decided to sue? Previously, I had heard that he was only considering to sue.
-- Edited by watsea on Friday 21st of January 2022 10:51:10 AM
Had he not been allowed, back in Nov or Dec, to enter the country in the first place this fiasco would not have happened. If the Australian tax payer has to
foot the bill for a law suit, the blame lies squarely at the incompetence of the village idiot in charge of this country and his cronies and the jerk from TA.
I would not be in a big hurry to laugh this one off. He came in on a visa and then it was cancelled, with the cancellation later ruled invalid as he was denied procedural fairness. This point was conceded by the Government lawyers. The issue is that he was then detained from the time of the invalid cancellation on the Friday morning until the court accepted the consent orders on the Monday afternoon. If the cancellation was invalid then he has a fairly strong case relying on the tort of false imprisonment. He just needs to be able to prove that he was detained, it was against his will and that it was unlawful. Game, set, match.
I recall about forty years ago when a lady paid a traffic fine that had been dealt with in court and then due to an administrative error, the payment was not noted. A warrant of commitment issued for the "unpaid fine" and the police arrested her and took her to the police station despite her protests. About two hours later her husband appeared with the receipt and she was released with a flurry of apologies. The government of the day settled that one with an ex gratia payment in the mid five figure bracket. I recall another incident when a lawyer was put in the cells by the sitting judge for contempt. He spent about an hour in the cells until released. It turned out the judge had not given him an opportunity to state his reply and that settled with an ex gratia payment of more than six figures. Look at the recent refuge detentions on Manus Island. In the New Guinea Constitution, false imprisonment is not allowed. This detention was deemed unconstitutional and that cost us millions. There are literally heaps of other cases where prisoners have been released later than their actual release date, people being held in custody after the bail has been ordered, they all end the same way. Most don't even need to commence the legal proceedings, there is a negotiated settlement made to avoid the probable costs that will be awarded in addition to the damages.
I think the other part of his claim that may have some legs is the fact that after the visa was granted and before arrival in Oz, he paid for airfares for him and his entourage, accommodation and all the rest. Even if he got knocked out in the first round, I think that prize money is 100K.
The six million is a bit of poetic licence as when you commence action in the Supreme Courts, the jurisdiction is unlimited and the actual amount is not stated in the claim. It is determined after evidence is given as to loss of income, expenses incurred and general damages.
If he takes this on I doubt if the Government would be game to run it. It will be settled with an ex gratia payment on terms not to be disclosed.
I wonder how many smart comments will be coming if he does a number on us using the laws that have been in existence for hundreds of years before being adopted here.
Is there anything that they touch that does not end up a total mess.
All that needed to be done in the first instance was to allow him to go to residence and to arrange to have this sorted within twenty four hours. But no, there were no votes in that.
-- Edited by DMaxer on Friday 21st of January 2022 11:48:30 AM
-- Edited by DMaxer on Friday 21st of January 2022 11:49:05 AM
Perhaps the Commonwealth could counter sue Djokovic for being a total plonker?
Isn't that the way "modern life" goes these days?
If he sues, successfully or not, I suspect he can say goodbye to a visa for at least three years.
And a pile of sponsors too.
Cheers,
Peter
He won't have to issue proceedings. Once the intent is made to the Australian Government it will be resolved and a financial ex gratia payment will be made and not disclosed to anyone as part of the deal. A statement will then be released to say that their differences have been reconciled and we look forward to Novak coming back to Australia next year when the virus has been brought under control by our brilliant Government.
I have seen quite a few of these type of claims and I have never seen one with any merit that requires process to issue. . If they know they are on a loser they just settle.
End of story. It will be a done deal.
-- Edited by DMaxer on Friday 21st of January 2022 06:27:07 PM
And you don't think the press may be just the smallest bit interested to issue a FOI request?
I agree,
He would need to be very careful how he and his advisors approach this situation from here on.
It would be easier for him just to go and get vaccinated.
He could even turn the event into a winning post for him if he was half smart.
As for the detention he did have the option to leave on the next available flight so it was his choice to stay in detention.
Landy.
Yeh, got me beat why he just didn't get a couple of jabs considering what was at stake. Bit dull, our up himself if you ask me
So,, he's one of those massive floaters. :jawdrop:
They only happen when in someone elses house or in this case, country.
Now the BCC has picked up on Djokovic's suspicious COVID tests.
Novak Djokovic: Doubts over timing of Covid test:
https://www.bbc.com/news/59999541
If he follows through on his lawsuit threat, I'd like to see this sh1t hit the fan.
I like that.
Dick.
I don't like it littledick, It would be much much better if he was flushable.
DEAR NOVAK
HAVING A WONDERFUL TIME OVER HERE IN AUSTRALIA! WINNERS ARE GRINNERS, LOSERS CAN PLEASE THEMSELVES.
CHEERS RAFAEL
Those other upstart males defy the description of sportsmen in my view.