Caravan holding up traffic one way and a bloody bus the other. What has changed?
erad said
09:53 AM Sep 26, 2021
Doesn't that bring back memories? OK - there weren't as many cars on the road then, but the roads were terrible compared to today's standards. Where I live, there is a major construction project under way and there must be several hundred truck movements per day on the highway, but the trucks are all moving quite well and the road, although a standard B road (one lane each way) has been upgraded so that there is very little obstruction to normal traffic flow (not that of late there has been much traffic due to Covid). There are BIG trucks with heavy loads, but they have enough power such that they do not obstruct traffic. Even on the Hume Hwy out of Sydney, the B Doubles only get knocked back 2 or 3 gears going up MCCleods hill near Mittagong.
We live in an area on the way to the ski fields. When Covid didn't exist, to travel between Canberra and Cooma at about 5:30 pm on a weekend was madness. There would be bumper to bumper traffic coming the other way, all doing 100 km/h, all with headlight dazzling (many with damned foglights as well). In one trip, I counted 1340 cars in about 50 minutes (I was going the other way). So the Monaro Highway is still unable to cope with the traffic demands at peak. Fortunately the peak times are limited to a couple of hours each weekend, but the road is still inadequate for current traffic loadings. I am sure there are other roads which are similarly saturated at certain times - The Newcastle Expressway (or any major road into or out of Sydney for that matter) - they are all inadequate for the peak demands. It is the old rule - build better roads and more cars will come and use them. At last the Pacific Highway is fully divided and is a good road, but at peak times it will still choke up. Covid for all its troubles has at least eased traffic congestion on the major arteries around the bigger cities.
rgren2 said
10:30 AM Sep 26, 2021
On the oncoming traffic, Morris 850, Ford Prefect, Wolsey, Customline/Chev?
Away traffic, Anglia.
Any better ideas?
msg said
12:01 PM Sep 26, 2021
Erad, What about the Kings Highway of a Sunday night?
DMaxer said
01:02 PM Sep 26, 2021
Rgren2 I think the third car in the oncoming traffic might be a Vauxhall and the rear car heading away might be a Simca. It looks a bit big for an Anglia but I may be wrong.
rgren2 said
01:12 PM Sep 26, 2021
Im a bit rusty on my 60s cars, pity there isnt a Holden there, might give a year indication, Im thinking very early 60s.
Craig1 said
01:34 PM Sep 26, 2021
Vauxhall a 59 or 60, won the 1st Phillip Island 500
watsea said
05:52 PM Sep 26, 2021
Cars going away-
Could the one at the rear be a Ford Zephyr?
Second one, a Ford Consul?
Yep, recognise a Vauxhall heading towards us.
graeme c said
07:27 PM Sep 26, 2021
Morris minor is a highlight full windscreen possibly a 948cc ie 1000
DMaxer said
07:44 PM Sep 26, 2021
I think you might be right Watsea. The second one looks like a Consul and the rear one has the Zephyr look. Perhaps it is the Zephyr before the bigger one came out, the Zephyr 6. Back in the line in the oncoming traffic might be a Ford Custom with either a Chev/Pontiac back behind it. We had a 1938 Chev that had a similar front.
I love these old photos of cars taken back in that era. All those memories of loud exhausts, wide wheels and revs.
yobarr said
08:34 PM Sep 26, 2021
rgren2 wrote:
On the oncoming traffic, Morris 850, Ford Prefect, Wolsey, Customline/Chev? Away traffic, Anglia. Any better ideas?
Front car coming towards us in Morris Minor 1000,second car is bigger than a Prefect,maybe a Hillman (?) 3rd car is PA Vauxhall,4th MAY be a Wolseley,5th could be a 1939 Chev(?) and last Standard 10 (?). Rear car going away is MK2 Zephyr highline (work that out!) then Ford Prefect OR MK1 Zephyr.About 1960,Id guess.Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Sunday 26th of September 2021 08:36:44 PM
yobarr said
08:40 PM Sep 26, 2021
DMaxer wrote:
I think you might be right Watsea. The second one looks like a Consul and the rear one has the Zephyr look. Perhaps it is the Zephyr before the bigger one came out, the Zephyr 6. Back in the line in the oncoming traffic might be a Ford Custom with either a Chev/Pontiac back behind it. We had a 1938 Chev that had a similar front. I love these old photos of cars taken back in that era. All those memories of loud exhausts, wide wheels and revs.
Second one could be a Consul,but maybe MK1 Zephyr which was called a Zephyr 6,with the same engine as was used in the MK2 Zephyr.
yobarr said
08:47 PM Sep 26, 2021
graeme c wrote:
Morris minor is a highlight full windscreen possibly a 948cc ie 1000
You're right!
-- Edited by yobarr on Sunday 26th of September 2021 08:48:06 PM
Craig1 said
08:54 PM Sep 26, 2021
What is towing the van Chris?
landy said
10:11 PM Sep 26, 2021
graeme c wrote:
Morris minor is a highlight full windscreen possibly a 948cc ie 1000
Spot on Graeme We have three Morrise's a 1938 Morris eight Tourer a 1955 series 2 minor and a 1962 Morris 1000. If it had a split windscreen it would have had a 918 side valve or an 803 overhead valve motor. the the full windscreen was the 948. up until 1962 or 63 when it changed to a 1098. very few of 1098 cars were imported to Australia as the model was dropped here in 1962. I am not sure when they were dropped in NZ but I think it may have been later Than in Australia. Landy
Possibly a Vanguard,which had a Standard engine,as used in TEA Ferguson tractors.Used to be called "Fergy fastbacks" because of their shape. Similar shaped rear mudguard? Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Monday 27th of September 2021 05:46:30 AM
The days when one was both surprised and grateful if the car completed a 100 mile journey without incident.
Mind you, I did learn one hell of a lot of mechanical skills from the hours I spent repairing and "improving" such vehicles.
My first car was an aged, even then, Austin A30.
landy said
08:45 AM Sep 27, 2021
Mike Harding wrote:
The days when one was both surprised and grateful if the car completed a 100 mile journey without incident.
Mind you, I did learn one hell of a lot of mechanical skills from the hours I spent repairing and "improving" such vehicles.
My first car was an aged, even then, Austin A30.
I think Mike that a lot of our generation have greatly benefited from the days of if you can't fix it you can't drive it. It made us very inventive and resourceful. Landy
-- Edited by landy on Monday 27th of September 2021 09:43:30 AM
erad said
08:55 AM Sep 27, 2021
Landy:
All those cars - it looks like they are at the Cooma Motor Fest. Is that correct?
yobarr said
09:58 AM Sep 27, 2021
landy wrote:
graeme c wrote:
Morris minor is a highlight full windscreen possibly a 948cc ie 1000
Spot on Graeme We have three Morrise's a 1938 Morris eight Tourer a 1955 series 2 minor and a 1962 Morris 1000. If it had a split windscreen it would have had a 918 side valve or an 803 overhead valve motor. the the full windscreen was the 948. up until 1962 or 63 when it changed to a 1098. very few of 1098 cars were imported to Australia as the model was dropped here in 1962. I am not sure when they were dropped in NZ but I think it may have been later Than in Australia.Landy
Don't know when the last of these powerful beasts (sarcasm) was sold in NZ,but they were built until late 1970.Cheers
landy said
10:00 AM Sep 27, 2021
erad wrote:
Landy:
All those cars - it looks like they are at the Cooma Motor Fest. Is that correct?
Hi Erad that was at the Ballarat trotting track probably 2 or three years ago. one of the things Mrs Landy and I used to enjoy doing before Covid was showing the Morries at the local shows on a nice Sunday. Hopefully we will be able to get back to it soon. Landy
landy said
10:50 AM Sep 27, 2021
yobarr wrote:
landy wrote:
graeme c wrote:
Morris minor is a highlight full windscreen possibly a 948cc ie 1000
Spot on Graeme We have three Morrise's a 1938 Morris eight Tourer a 1955 series 2 minor and a 1962 Morris 1000. If it had a split windscreen it would have had a 918 side valve or an 803 overhead valve motor. the the full windscreen was the 948. up until 1962 or 63 when it changed to a 1098. very few of 1098 cars were imported to Australia as the model was dropped here in 1962. I am not sure when they were dropped in NZ but I think it may have been later Than in Australia.Landy
Don't know when the last of these powerful beasts (sarcasm) was sold in NZ,but they were built until late 1970.Cheers
The last Morris Minor saloon came off the production line in 1970 the last Traveler in 71 but they continued to assemble Morris minors in New Zealand from kits until 1974. The minor was supposed to be replaced with the release of the mini in 1959 but public demand kept the production going for many more years with over 1.6 million being built. Landy.
graeme c said
12:46 PM Sep 27, 2021
The Morris in my avatar had a 1098cc motor, as did another one I had but they werent, original, needed upgraded brakes as well, drum brakes not real effective, sold the blue one last year
Graeme
-- Edited by graeme c on Monday 27th of September 2021 12:47:23 PM
Craig1 said
01:16 PM Sep 27, 2021
Must be a Blessed Bedford Bus going down the hill
watsea said
04:50 PM Sep 27, 2021
Last vehicle in the line coming towards us could be a 1956 Hillman.
yobarr said
04:56 PM Sep 27, 2021
watsea wrote:
Last vehicle in the line coming towards us could be a 1956 Hillman.
Could be too,or maybe a Standard 10.Cheers.
landy said
05:31 PM Sep 27, 2021
graeme c wrote:
The Morris in my avatar had a 1098cc motor, as did another one I had but they werent, original, needed upgraded brakes as well, drum brakes not real effective, sold the blue one last year
Graeme
-- Edited by graeme c on Monday 27th of September 2021 12:47:23 PM
Graeme c. We have replaced the worn out 803 ( original motor ) in the 1955 minor with a 1098. It was considerably cheaper for us to fly a fully rebuilt 1098 from the UK including $2000 freight and customs than to have the original rebuilt here. Also the UK had the motor on my floor in 7 days Amazing. Landy
yobarr said
05:51 PM Sep 27, 2021
Craig1 wrote:
Must be a Blessed Bedford Bus going down the hill
Quite likely too,Craig,as those old SB3 Bedfords performed best when going downhill.The Bedford petrol engine always was a slug,while the Perkins, Leyland and Bedford diesels that followed were even worse! Probably a good thing,though,as brakes were useless! Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 28th of September 2021 07:32:45 AM
Over on East Island .
-- Edited by Aus-Kiwi on Sunday 26th of September 2021 09:20:08 AM
Caravan holding up traffic one way and a bloody bus the other. What has changed?
We live in an area on the way to the ski fields. When Covid didn't exist, to travel between Canberra and Cooma at about 5:30 pm on a weekend was madness. There would be bumper to bumper traffic coming the other way, all doing 100 km/h, all with headlight dazzling (many with damned foglights as well). In one trip, I counted 1340 cars in about 50 minutes (I was going the other way). So the Monaro Highway is still unable to cope with the traffic demands at peak. Fortunately the peak times are limited to a couple of hours each weekend, but the road is still inadequate for current traffic loadings. I am sure there are other roads which are similarly saturated at certain times - The Newcastle Expressway (or any major road into or out of Sydney for that matter) - they are all inadequate for the peak demands. It is the old rule - build better roads and more cars will come and use them. At last the Pacific Highway is fully divided and is a good road, but at peak times it will still choke up. Covid for all its troubles has at least eased traffic congestion on the major arteries around the bigger cities.
Away traffic, Anglia.
Any better ideas?
Could the one at the rear be a Ford Zephyr?
Second one, a Ford Consul?
Yep, recognise a Vauxhall heading towards us.
Morris minor is a highlight full windscreen possibly a 948cc ie 1000
Front car coming towards us in Morris Minor 1000,second car is bigger than a Prefect,maybe a Hillman (?) 3rd car is PA Vauxhall,4th MAY be a Wolseley,5th could be a 1939 Chev(?) and last Standard 10 (?). Rear car going away is MK2 Zephyr highline (work that out!) then Ford Prefect OR MK1 Zephyr.About 1960,Id guess.Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Sunday 26th of September 2021 08:36:44 PM
Second one could be a Consul,but maybe MK1 Zephyr which was called a Zephyr 6,with the same engine as was used in the MK2 Zephyr.
You're right!
-- Edited by yobarr on Sunday 26th of September 2021 08:48:06 PM
Spot on Graeme We have three Morrise's a 1938 Morris eight Tourer a 1955 series 2 minor and a 1962 Morris 1000.
If it had a split windscreen it would have had a 918 side valve or an 803 overhead valve motor. the the full windscreen was the 948. up until
1962 or 63 when it changed to a 1098. very few of 1098 cars were imported to Australia as the model was dropped here in 1962. I am not sure
when they were dropped in NZ but I think it may have been later Than in Australia.
Landy
Possibly a Vanguard,which had a Standard engine,as used in TEA Ferguson tractors.Used to be called "Fergy fastbacks" because of their shape. Similar shaped rear mudguard? Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Monday 27th of September 2021 05:46:30 AM
The days when one was both surprised and grateful if the car completed a 100 mile journey without incident.
Mind you, I did learn one hell of a lot of mechanical skills from the hours I spent repairing and "improving" such vehicles.
My first car was an aged, even then, Austin A30.
I think Mike that a lot of our generation have greatly benefited from the days of if you can't fix it you can't drive it. It made us very inventive and resourceful.
Landy
-- Edited by landy on Monday 27th of September 2021 09:43:30 AM
Landy:
All those cars - it looks like they are at the Cooma Motor Fest. Is that correct?
Don't know when the last of these powerful beasts (sarcasm) was sold in NZ,but they were built until late 1970.Cheers
Hi Erad that was at the Ballarat trotting track probably 2 or three years ago. one of the things Mrs Landy and I used to enjoy doing before Covid was showing the Morries at the local
shows on a nice Sunday. Hopefully we will be able to get back to it soon.
Landy
The last Morris Minor saloon came off the production line in 1970 the last Traveler in 71 but they continued to assemble Morris minors in New Zealand from kits until 1974.
The minor was supposed to be replaced with the release of the mini in 1959 but public demand kept the production going for many more years with over 1.6 million being built.
Landy.
The Morris in my avatar had a 1098cc motor, as did another one I had but they werent, original, needed upgraded brakes as well, drum brakes not real effective, sold the blue one last year
Graeme
-- Edited by graeme c on Monday 27th of September 2021 12:47:23 PM
Could be too,or maybe a Standard 10.Cheers.
Graeme c. We have replaced the worn out 803 ( original motor ) in the 1955 minor with a 1098. It was considerably cheaper for us to fly a fully rebuilt 1098 from the UK including $2000 freight and customs than to have the original rebuilt here. Also the UK had the motor on my floor in 7 days Amazing.
Landy
Quite likely too,Craig,as those old SB3 Bedfords performed best when going downhill.The Bedford petrol engine always was a slug,while the Perkins, Leyland and Bedford diesels that followed were even worse! Probably a good thing,though,as brakes were useless! Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 28th of September 2021 07:32:45 AM