Yes, even if you are a WA resident there is no hope, you will be locked out.
Bicyclecamper said
05:25 PM Jul 13, 2021
I think what all the states and terriotories should do, is force an state passport on every one. That is a separate passport for each state, then you would have to pay for a visa to enter each state. So like coming into the country, if their is a reason you are an undesirable you can be denied. Like being an New South Welshman lately or since Jun 2020, we are not allowed to go anywhere.
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Tuesday 13th of July 2021 05:30:22 PM
Tony Bev said
02:13 PM Jul 16, 2021
It looks as though WA, will also have a hard border with VIC, as from midnight tonight
Just putting this out there, in case anyone does not already know
Hopefully with about half of the population, now in some sort of ringfence/lockdown, we can stop the spread of Covid-19
My thoughts go to all my friends, (you know who you are), who are now in some sort of lockdown
Stay safe everyone
TheHeaths said
07:10 AM Jul 17, 2021
Not looking to start an argument between members, and I understand many in WA are pleased with their Premier and Government over the handling of the Covid control during the various outbreaks.
That said, I find it outrageous that a Premier and Police Department feel it ok to refuse residents of that state the right to return to their homes until THEY decide it is safe for them to do so. I find this particularly bad for those who were already outside of the state, but were looking to return home in the coming days and weeks. Some of the people we have met during the past month are certainly in that boat.
We are on the road, and come from SA, and when the Premier closed the SA borders to all and sundry (which could be a whole different thread), at least residents were still able to return using quarantine and testing protocols similar to overseas returnees. In my opinion, at the very least, those jurisdictions that feel the need to close borders every time someone f*@ts with Covid should not be allowed to stop their residents returning, being required at a minimum to allow them to return and quarantine at home with a testing regime to match.
Unfortunately, it has gone too far when residents are refused the right to go home by their own elected members. Those who worked for and brought Federation to fruition would be turning in their graves the way the States are acting now.
PS I am not aiming to make this thread political, as I am against any political party or politician who feels they have the right to exclude residents.
-- Edited by TheHeaths on Saturday 17th of July 2021 07:12:07 AM
Tony Bev said
01:15 PM Jul 17, 2021
It looks like South Australia, is warning of the same hard border closure, as West Australia
That said, I find it outrageous that a Premier and Police Department feel it ok to refuse residents of that state the right to return to their homes until THEY decide it is safe for them to do so.
In a normal situation, I would agree with you 100%
Also in a normal situation, as a normal Australian citizen, I would be prepared to fight, if any State or Territory, refused me entry, just because I was born/lived in another state
But, in the world wide pandemic we are already facing, I am prepared to forgo, all my rights as an Australian, and obey all directions, to try and stop the pandemic spreading
I am an Australian first and foremost, who just happens to have lived in Western Australia, since I was a teenager
TheHeaths said
07:13 PM Jul 17, 2021
We will just have to agree to disagree on it Tony.
I expect SA to continue to allow residents to return, even from interstate hotspots, on the basis that they quarantine for 14 days, and have tests on days 1,5 and 13. If they dont allow that, then I will berate them as well. As I say, I am an ecumenical abuser and not limited along party lines!
Our current trip, no where near any outbreaks but into NSW and Qld has seen us expect to do just that until last week, when SA relented a little, and we can return as normal (at the moment), due to not being near outbreaks. Thus we will be heading home via INnamincka and the STrzelecki Track after we leave Thargomindah on Monday. Should be back in SA by Wednesday and then a run down the last of SAs great Tracks for us, having done the Oodnadatta and Birdsville previously.
What I especially find outrageous is when all of the premiers are happy to allow sportspeople, movie actors and other assorted celebrities to enter, with little if any benefit to the normal resident.
Anyway, hopefully it wont come to that, and the outbreak will finish sooner rather than later.
Tony LEE said
09:46 AM Jul 18, 2021
Nothing has changed since March last year. Travel anywhere at your own risk.
No new news here.
Whenarewethere said
11:58 AM Jul 18, 2021
It doesn't matter how remote & devoid of any possible contact you have had, if you are in a different "kingdom" you are stuffed.
Just a heads up, for anyone planning (in the immediate future), to travel from WA to NSW, and returning to WA
The snip below was taken from an ABC Coronavirus news blog, which says it better than I could
Link to story which is buried in a live news blog
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-13/covid-live-updates-coronavirus-sydney-lockdown-press-conference/100287504
Yes, even if you are a WA resident there is no hope, you will be locked out.
I think what all the states and terriotories should do, is force an state passport on every one. That is a separate passport for each state, then you would have to pay for a visa to enter each state. So like coming into the country, if their is a reason you are an undesirable you can be denied. Like being an New South Welshman lately or since Jun 2020, we are not allowed to go anywhere.
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Tuesday 13th of July 2021 05:30:22 PM
Just putting this out there, in case anyone does not already know
Hopefully with about half of the population, now in some sort of ringfence/lockdown, we can stop the spread of Covid-19
My thoughts go to all my friends, (you know who you are), who are now in some sort of lockdown
Stay safe everyone
Not looking to start an argument between members, and I understand many in WA are pleased with their Premier and Government over the handling of the Covid control during the various outbreaks.
That said, I find it outrageous that a Premier and Police Department feel it ok to refuse residents of that state the right to return to their homes until THEY decide it is safe for them to do so. I find this particularly bad for those who were already outside of the state, but were looking to return home in the coming days and weeks. Some of the people we have met during the past month are certainly in that boat.
We are on the road, and come from SA, and when the Premier closed the SA borders to all and sundry (which could be a whole different thread), at least residents were still able to return using quarantine and testing protocols similar to overseas returnees. In my opinion, at the very least, those jurisdictions that feel the need to close borders every time someone f*@ts with Covid should not be allowed to stop their residents returning, being required at a minimum to allow them to return and quarantine at home with a testing regime to match.
Unfortunately, it has gone too far when residents are refused the right to go home by their own elected members. Those who worked for and brought Federation to fruition would be turning in their graves the way the States are acting now.
PS I am not aiming to make this thread political, as I am against any political party or politician who feels they have the right to exclude residents.
-- Edited by TheHeaths on Saturday 17th of July 2021 07:12:07 AM
It looks like South Australia, is warning of the same hard border closure, as West Australia
Link to article buried in a live news blog, below
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-17/covid-live-updates-coronavirus-melbourne-lockdown-sydney-qld/100301370
Snip from the news article
Hi Ian (The Heaths)
In reply to this part of your post
In a normal situation, I would agree with you 100%
Also in a normal situation, as a normal Australian citizen, I would be prepared to fight, if any State or Territory, refused me entry, just because I was born/lived in another state
But, in the world wide pandemic we are already facing, I am prepared to forgo, all my rights as an Australian, and obey all directions, to try and stop the pandemic spreading
I am an Australian first and foremost, who just happens to have lived in Western Australia, since I was a teenager
I expect SA to continue to allow residents to return, even from interstate hotspots, on the basis that they quarantine for 14 days, and have tests on days 1,5 and 13. If they dont allow that, then I will berate them as well. As I say, I am an ecumenical abuser and not limited along party lines!
Our current trip, no where near any outbreaks but into NSW and Qld has seen us expect to do just that until last week, when SA relented a little, and we can return as normal (at the moment), due to not being near outbreaks. Thus we will be heading home via INnamincka and the STrzelecki Track after we leave Thargomindah on Monday. Should be back in SA by Wednesday and then a run down the last of SAs great Tracks for us, having done the Oodnadatta and Birdsville previously.
What I especially find outrageous is when all of the premiers are happy to allow sportspeople, movie actors and other assorted celebrities to enter, with little if any benefit to the normal resident.
Anyway, hopefully it wont come to that, and the outbreak will finish sooner rather than later.
It doesn't matter how remote & devoid of any possible contact you have had, if you are in a different "kingdom" you are stuffed.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-03/victorians-stuck-nsw-border-face-anxious-wait-covid-19/13027768
that link is 7 months old
If it's today or a year ago, nothing has changed, being on the wrong side of a border no matter how remote, one is stuffed.