Thanks Dorian.
As for the other claim posted by the OP, wouldn't you think that the mainstream media would be screaming about that if in fact it was remotely true.
DMaxer said
08:37 AM May 4, 2021
There are lots of things the MSM do not "scream" about Tony if it does not fit their agenda or their political leaning.
Santa said
08:41 AM May 4, 2021
Dodgy link, don't go there.
Wanda said
08:47 AM May 4, 2021
Maybe try fact checking before posting! No, easier to stir the pot this way! Ian
-- Edited by Wanda on Tuesday 4th of May 2021 10:38:56 AM
Recoup said
10:24 AM May 4, 2021
What is Fact Checking ? One of Bill Gates Website ?
Wanda said
10:41 AM May 4, 2021
Recoup wrote:
What is Fact Checking ? One of Bill Gates Website ?
I should have figured your competance does'nt go past this web site!
My brother 50 y.o ( lives in US ) has just got over covert .He says he doesnt feel the same even after a few months . So it goes both ways . Stiffness etc and he kept fit . Says its much harder now .
Tony Bev said
12:04 PM May 4, 2021
As it was mainstream media news, when a few people had blood clots, after receiving the vaccine
I am sure it would have been main news, if just a few people had gone blind, after receiving the vaccine
I therefore have a gut feeling, that the website was not worth looking at, and did not open the attachment
Mike Harding said
12:12 PM May 4, 2021
Over two weeks since I had my AZ jab and all my bits and pieces are still operating according to the spec. sheet :)
It is inevitable some people will have an adverse reaction to any medication so what we need to do is look at the probability of it occurring to us, just as we do every time we make a decision to drive a car or walk across the road. As with almost everything in life a cost to benefit analysis needs to be performed.
World wide, millions of the AZ jabs have occurred and, it seems, serious adverse reaction is so low one is more likely to be hit by lightning when leaving the clinic.
It seems to me you are scaremongering Recoup.
montie said
01:30 PM May 4, 2021
Mike Harding wrote:
Over two weeks since I had my AZ jab and all my bits and pieces are still operating according to the spec. sheet :)
It is inevitable some people will have an adverse reaction to any medication so what we need to do is look at the probability of it occurring to us, just as we do every time we make a decision to drive a car or walk across the road. As with almost everything in life a cost to benefit analysis needs to be performed.
World wide, millions of the AZ jabs have occurred and, it seems, serious adverse reaction is so low one is more likely to be hit by lightning when leaving the clinic.
It seems to me you are scaremongering Recoup.
And using a bunch of weirdos to do so!
According to the fact-checking website Snopes.com, LifeSiteNews is "a known purveyor of misleading information
Recoup said
01:32 PM May 4, 2021
Tony Bev wrote:
As it was mainstream media news, when a few people had blood clots, after receiving the vaccine
I am sure it would have been main news, if just a few people had gone blind, after receiving the vaccine
I therefore have a gut feeling, that the website was not worth looking at, and did not open the attachment
I just opened the attachment , and you are right , the original side showed the complete table from the European Vaccine Data Base . That's why I posted this ,so every body could study it them self . I will try to find it ,cheers
"To date, VAERS has not detected patterns in cause of death that would indicate a safety problem with COVID-19 vaccines."
"VAERS accepts reports of any adverse event following vaccination, even if it is not clear the vaccine caused the problem."
This report provides actual data which show that the number of deaths from any cause in vaccinated subjects was actually less than the expected mortality in that particular population:
"After excluding residents with a positive SARS-CoV-2 diagnostic test within 20 days prior to their 7-day observation window
-- Mortality was lower among vaccinated versus unvaccinated residents within the same facilities and compared to residents in not-yet-vaccinated facilities, with overlapping 95% confidence intervals."
In short, it seems that the sensationalist web site highlights the scary numbers, and provides links to their source, but the doomsayers don't bother to actually read and understand their own links. Presumably they think that their audience won't bother to investigate any further, either.
I just think there is a tad of discrimination against the oldies. Are they saving the best brand for the young ones. The vulnerable and oldies get what is given. Glad I have the capacity to say no if I want to. Unlike some of those poor sick oldies and disadvantaged. They really have no choice.
Personally I think its a case of having spent a lot of money on the astra zeneca vaccines that have to be used up. Better oldies as collateral damage who can't say anything than the young ones. I know I'm a cynic.
The almighty dollar and potential votes rule every time.
Plain Truth said
02:06 PM May 7, 2021
Yes, they have to much supply now,they will soon be finding ways to force you to take it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhhXbpJOBVE
orid said
02:22 PM May 7, 2021
Well what sticks in my mind is , the so called experts were saying 12 months ago ,
"It would be impossible to have a Vaccine ready within 12 months, and even if it was possible it would have to be tested for at least 5 years and usually the period is 10 to 15 years to make sure a vaccine is safe .
Governments over the globe are desperate to get things back to normal ,at any cost .
Anyway I wont be playing Russian roulette, rather die from the desease than the cure HA HA!!
Orid
Recoup said
02:42 PM May 7, 2021
Plain Truth wrote:
Yes, they have to much supply now,they will soon be finding ways to force you to take it.
I have read that they are trying to vaccinate your pets.
Plain Truth said
04:30 PM May 7, 2021
We won't be taking an untried vaccine,why when you see the President & the Vice President plus Nancy Pelosi who have all been vaccinated,social distancing and wearing masks.
Is this the New Normal,well you can have it.I trust my immune system.Why risk getting blood clots or something else,as somebody said" In Australia the risk for covid19 is all but zero"
In Australia the risk for covid19 is all but zero"
However, this is a result of excluding the rest of the world ....... and there are several very big voices campaigning against this. Universities, Airlines, Tourist Orgs and anyone else making big bucks overseas.
The govt gets lots of support and votes from these organisations.
What the ordinary Australians want is irrelevant they go with the money and votes.
19,916 eye disorders including blindness following covid vaccine reported in europe
Lots of garbage out there, lets not add to it if it's bu....it!
Ian
A bunch of way out crackpots!
https://www.allaboutvision.com/en-au/coronavirus/covid-vaccine-side-effects-vision/
Dodgy link, don't go there.
Maybe try fact checking before posting!
No, easier to stir the pot this way!
Ian
-- Edited by Wanda on Tuesday 4th of May 2021 10:38:56 AM
I should have figured your competance does'nt go past this web site!
Ian
Ian ,you are to nice a bloke ,
That's OK , I mean it, cheers
I am sure it would have been main news, if just a few people had gone blind, after receiving the vaccine
I therefore have a gut feeling, that the website was not worth looking at, and did not open the attachment
Over two weeks since I had my AZ jab and all my bits and pieces are still operating according to the spec. sheet :)
It is inevitable some people will have an adverse reaction to any medication so what we need to do is look at the probability of it occurring to us, just as we do every time we make a decision to drive a car or walk across the road. As with almost everything in life a cost to benefit analysis needs to be performed.
World wide, millions of the AZ jabs have occurred and, it seems, serious adverse reaction is so low one is more likely to be hit by lightning when leaving the clinic.
It seems to me you are scaremongering Recoup.
And using a bunch of weirdos to do so!
According to the fact-checking website Snopes.com, LifeSiteNews is "a known purveyor of misleading information
I just opened the attachment , and you are right , the original side showed the complete table from the European Vaccine Data Base . That's why I posted this ,so every body could study it them self . I will try to find it ,cheers
vaccineimpact.com/2021/6662-dead-299065-injuries-european-database-of-adverse-drug-reactions-for-covid-19-vaccines/
I don't want scare any one ,any one not interested ,don't read it ,simple.
I followed up some of the links in that article.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
"To date, VAERS has not detected patterns in cause of death that would indicate a safety problem with COVID-19 vaccines."
"VAERS accepts reports of any adverse event following vaccination, even if it is not clear the vaccine caused the problem."
This report provides actual data which show that the number of deaths from any cause in vaccinated subjects was actually less than the expected mortality in that particular population:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2021-01/06-COVID-Shimabukuro.pdf
"After excluding residents with a positive SARS-CoV-2 diagnostic test within 20 days prior to their 7-day observation window
-- Mortality was lower among vaccinated versus unvaccinated residents within the same facilities and compared to residents in not-yet-vaccinated facilities, with overlapping 95% confidence intervals."
In short, it seems that the sensationalist web site highlights the scary numbers, and provides links to their source, but the doomsayers don't bother to actually read and understand their own links. Presumably they think that their audience won't bother to investigate any further, either.
Come on Recoup, they're an American based bunch of religious nut cases peddling misinformation.
Doesn't scare me in the least, although I am incredulous at just how gullible some people are.
Tucker Carlson on Fox News , in hot water ?
Personally I think its a case of having spent a lot of money on the astra zeneca vaccines that have to be used up. Better oldies as collateral damage who can't say anything than the young ones. I know I'm a cynic.
The almighty dollar and potential votes rule every time.
Yes, they have to much supply now,they will soon be finding ways to force you to take it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhhXbpJOBVE
"It would be impossible to have a Vaccine ready within 12 months, and even if it was possible it would have to be tested for at least 5 years and usually the period is 10 to 15 years to make sure a vaccine is safe .
Governments over the globe are desperate to get things back to normal ,at any cost .
Anyway I wont be playing Russian roulette, rather die from the desease than the cure HA HA!!
Orid
We won't be taking an untried vaccine,why when you see the President & the Vice President plus Nancy Pelosi who have all been vaccinated,social distancing and wearing masks.
Is this the New Normal,well you can have it.I trust my immune system.Why risk getting blood clots or something else,as somebody said" In Australia the risk for covid19 is all but zero"
However, this is a result of excluding the rest of the world ....... and there are several very big voices campaigning against this. Universities, Airlines, Tourist Orgs and anyone else making big bucks overseas.
The govt gets lots of support and votes from these organisations.
What the ordinary Australians want is irrelevant they go with the money and votes.