With what looks like the fact that nearly all plastic material may be abolished, I note that the Company Visy Board has invested in buying a major glass manufacture.
Smart move by Visy, as plastic food containers, will almost certainly be on the NO-NO list, and replaced by glass.
Looks like were are moving back into the past.
Jay&Dee
Peter_n_Margaret said
10:41 AM Mar 19, 2021
JayDee wrote:
the fact that nearly all plastic material may be abolished,
Fact?
False news I reckon. Please provide a link.
Cheers,
Peter
bgt said
11:52 AM Mar 19, 2021
Good luck carrying a glass phone around. Or maybe a glass table. How about a glass car interior?
Plastic isn't the problem. It's the pigs who drop it on the ground. When was the last time you seen a straw jump out of a container and make a break for it? Oh and those shopping bags all conspire to escape to the nearest river even before they have left the supermarket. How many Maccas bags have you seen on the side of the road. Did they wind down the window while the driver wasn't looking?
Australian hasn't a plastic problem when compared to SE Asia. Yet, like emissions, we are going to pay the price while others ignore all our grand gestures.
Let's all suck our drinks through a delicious soggy paper straw. When are folks going to get a grip on themselves. Hey hang on. Maybe that's the problem. They have got a grip on something. Problem solved!
Visy is a packaging company. They are simply covering all the market options.
msg said
12:13 PM Mar 19, 2021
When was the last time you threw a straw, plastic bottle or shopping bag in the ocean or a river or a creek? Going by the big clumps floating around you must have emptied a truck load every few minutes every day last year.
Personally, I don't think I have ever done it.
I dutifully always separate it into my yellow bin each fortnight or put it in a bin.
The amount of garbage dropped by laziness or accidentally would not account for all that goes into the oceans.
All I can think is, something has happened to the garbage, we have so dutifully separated into bins after it has been picked up by the relevant authorities.
And so, just to make someone feel good, and inconvenience and cost to citizens we will ban plastic.
How about we try to curb the habits of the real offenders.
Whenarewethere said
12:42 PM Mar 19, 2021
A lot of the high end phones are glass front & back.
bgt said
01:01 PM Mar 19, 2021
msg I believe most of the huge plastic 'islands' floating around come from the big Asian rivers.
Tony LEE said
02:36 PM Mar 19, 2021
Some of the problem is a lot of the "dutifully separated" plastic is actually a recycling contaminant eg shopping bags
Craig1 said
05:58 PM Mar 19, 2021
The first 20-30km away from a town boundary pretty well tells part of the sad story, lots of all sorts of empty containers. You probably dont realize where it all goes once rain hits.
msg said
06:55 PM Mar 19, 2021
Agree bgt.
I wouldn't think many would put their plastic bags into recycling. Therefore they would go into normal garbage headed straight for landfill.
You know, I have been calling into roadside stops etc for about 10yrs. I have been around Australia, down the middle, western Queensland, Western NSW and up and down the Hume and have never come across any large quantities of empty containers. Are you saying that the rain that came through in the week prior to my visit conveniently washed it away and into the rivers etc. About the only real issue I came across were the truck tyres.
peter67 said
07:03 PM Mar 19, 2021
bgt wrote:
Good luck carrying a glass phone around. Or maybe a glass table. How about a glass car interior?
Plastic isn't the problem. It's the pigs who drop it on the ground. When was the last time you seen a straw jump out of a container and make a break for it? Oh and those shopping bags all conspire to escape to the nearest river even before they have left the supermarket. How many Maccas bags have you seen on the side of the road. Did they wind down the window while the driver wasn't looking?
Australian hasn't a plastic problem when compared to SE Asia. Yet, like emissions, we are going to pay the price while others ignore all our grand gestures.
Let's all suck our drinks through a delicious soggy paper straw. When are folks going to get a grip on themselves. Hey hang on. Maybe that's the problem. They have got a grip on something. Problem solved!
Visy is a packaging company. They are simply covering all the market options.
Good points, do you think wearing glass condoms will last as a virtue signalling fashion statement?
-- Edited by peter67 on Friday 19th of March 2021 07:05:26 PM
bgt said
08:23 PM Mar 19, 2021
Peter67 a glass condom would cut a few down to size!
Plain Truth said
05:23 PM Mar 21, 2021
So where does our recyclable plastic waste that we so carefully put in our yellow bin go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqrlEsPoyJk
Craig1 said
07:47 PM Mar 21, 2021
P T, we have banned export of recycle since then?. There is also a company in Albury that makes assorted Farm Fence posts from hay wrapper type material.
bgt said
09:03 PM Mar 21, 2021
Some years back in Texas a company started to make railroad sleepers out of recycled plastic. They passed all the tests. Performance and cost. But it was easier to keep making concrete ones. Attitudes have to change along with expectations.
peter67 said
09:19 PM Mar 21, 2021
PT I believe we sent most of it to China, but they don't take it any more.
msg said
09:27 PM Mar 21, 2021
Then they let if float right back. and we paid for it.
Gundog said
11:04 AM Mar 22, 2021
bgt wrote:
Some years back in Texas a company started to make railroad sleepers out of recycled plastic. They passed all the tests. Performance and cost. But it was easier to keep making concrete ones. Attitudes have to change along with expectations.
And there are still plenty of Red Gum Sleepers being milled in places like Koondrook.
With what looks like the fact that nearly all plastic material may be abolished, I note that the Company Visy Board has invested in buying a major glass manufacture.
Smart move by Visy, as plastic food containers, will almost certainly be on the NO-NO list, and replaced by glass.
Looks like were are moving back into the past.
Jay&Dee
Fact?
False news I reckon. Please provide a link.
Cheers,
Peter
Plastic isn't the problem. It's the pigs who drop it on the ground. When was the last time you seen a straw jump out of a container and make a break for it? Oh and those shopping bags all conspire to escape to the nearest river even before they have left the supermarket. How many Maccas bags have you seen on the side of the road. Did they wind down the window while the driver wasn't looking?
Australian hasn't a plastic problem when compared to SE Asia. Yet, like emissions, we are going to pay the price while others ignore all our grand gestures.
Let's all suck our drinks through a delicious soggy paper straw. When are folks going to get a grip on themselves. Hey hang on. Maybe that's the problem. They have got a grip on something. Problem solved!
Visy is a packaging company. They are simply covering all the market options.
Personally, I don't think I have ever done it.
I dutifully always separate it into my yellow bin each fortnight or put it in a bin.
The amount of garbage dropped by laziness or accidentally would not account for all that goes into the oceans.
All I can think is, something has happened to the garbage, we have so dutifully separated into bins after it has been picked up by the relevant authorities.
And so, just to make someone feel good, and inconvenience and cost to citizens we will ban plastic.
How about we try to curb the habits of the real offenders.
A lot of the high end phones are glass front & back.
I wouldn't think many would put their plastic bags into recycling. Therefore they would go into normal garbage headed straight for landfill.
You know, I have been calling into roadside stops etc for about 10yrs. I have been around Australia, down the middle, western Queensland, Western NSW and up and down the Hume and have never come across any large quantities of empty containers. Are you saying that the rain that came through in the week prior to my visit conveniently washed it away and into the rivers etc. About the only real issue I came across were the truck tyres.
Good points, do you think wearing glass condoms will last as a virtue signalling fashion statement?
-- Edited by peter67 on Friday 19th of March 2021 07:05:26 PM
So where does our recyclable plastic waste that we so carefully put in our yellow bin go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqrlEsPoyJk
And there are still plenty of Red Gum Sleepers being milled in places like Koondrook.