Using your phone to enter/sit down/eat at a Restaurant/McDonalds, you may need to scan their QR code in SA
PeterInSa said
04:33 PM Nov 27, 2020
Earlier this week went to a popular Restaurant Chain and to be served needed to scan their QR code or fill in a paper form on the table ( pencil provided, sanitized?) Filled in the form. A month earlier downloaded a QR App but did not like the security issues so deleted it.
Couple of days ago visited Maccas for an Egg and Bacon Muffin and Coffee and their signs, said customers must scan their QR code to be severed, anyway after a discussion I had breakfast there. ( they had no procedure for customers without a Smart Phone/APP)
Anyway with SA Gov. is asking for QR codes to be used in SA from December ( to assist with Covid Tracking) have loaded the App below. Note I am not recommending this App, it seemed the best for my older phone. I think from a bit of research Kaspersky QR Scanner could be the best but you need 4.4 version on your Android Phone or later.
-- Edited by PeterInSa on Friday 27th of November 2020 04:34:31 PM
Whenarewethere said
06:52 PM Nov 27, 2020
In NSW from 23 Nov.
Electronic record only. For those without a smartphone the business has to supply an electronic alternative to QR code.
Businesses can only use a non electronic method is if there is a power failure & must add those contacts to the electronic record as soon as power is on.
Bicyclecamper said
12:23 PM Nov 28, 2020
Yeah, I don't have the idiot phone monitoring system,- that is a phone, and never will have. Only need my sat when people need to talk to me. When they make a phone mandatory and everything digital, including banning cash, I suppose I will be going to gaol.
Whenarewethere said
01:27 PM Nov 28, 2020
We always leave our phone at home!
PeterInSa said
10:41 PM Dec 3, 2020
Correction.... You need the SA Gov App ( for SA) not the one I mentioned above, see:
Note: for Android Phones requires version 5 and above, Fruit Phones 1.7.2 and.........
-- Edited by PeterInSa on Thursday 3rd of December 2020 10:53:26 PM
dogbox said
11:03 AM Dec 4, 2020
an people are worried about the tracking devices in the vaccine ??
The Belmont Bear said
11:08 PM Dec 20, 2020
What is so hard every pub or restaurant in NSW is supposed to be using the QR code - they wont let you in unless you register. I have to register my presence when I play golf each week except its a manual system and I know which one I prefer. Once you have entered your details the first time whenever you go somewhere (apparently it's good for 28 days) all you need to do is point your camera at the code and it will log the time & the venue. I didnt have to load any apps my iphone 6 took me straight to the website as soon as I pointed the camera at it. Foxtel were also using a QR code on the test cricket telecast this week so people could enter some competition that they were running.
BB
-- Edited by The Belmont Bear on Sunday 20th of December 2020 11:09:09 PM
Tony Bev said
02:12 PM Dec 21, 2020
It is the same in West Australia
The other day went to a local restaurant, and had to sign our name, and a telephone number
We had the option of scanning a code with a smart phone
We have one community mobile phone between the two of us, and I assume it is not a smart phone
It is sad to read that during the very recent tracing exercise in NSW, that some people had been writing their names as Donald Duck, Micky Mouse, etc, and a false phone number
I will assume that there are those, who will never be responsible, in every town of every State. (So not taking a dig at NSW)
I for one, agree to be traced by whatever means, to combat Covid-19
For those who think that their civil rights, override the communities efforts to combat Covid-19
Perhaps, if they moved their tinfoil hat from their heads, and strapped it over their face, no one would be able to see them
This may also help, because if no one can see you, then you may as well stay home
Buzz Lightbulb said
12:36 PM Dec 22, 2020
I've worked in the internet protocol since 1994 before retiring. I also used to contribute to the development of international standards, on behalf of Australia and New Zealand, via the ISO Technical Committee for online Geographical Information. There are a few comments that I thought that I might provide on this issue:
Some QR code scanning apps do respect one's privacy. For example, here in the ACT their app, developed for ACT Health, only stores the information for 28 days on the Health Department's database. It is then deleted. I think that this may be the case for the NSW Services app. I can't comment on the SA app. If there is a case or cases of COVID-19 within that period then the database information is supposedly used to contact those people who were at the common venues. Therefore, using a false information can be detrimental to the users and other contacts. More so the contact phone number or email. A false name just makes the user look silly if he or she were to be contacted. I consider these apps to be appropriate as the information is used only for the intended purpose.
Other apps and QR websites, that are general purpose, are not likely to only use the information for contact tracing. The information can be used to send advertising to the users but more importantly, the information is used for big data purposes by companies such as Alphabet (Google's parent company). These companies make trillions of dollars out of that information.
I personally don't agree with this. Five companies, Apple, Alphabet, Facebook, Amazon and Micro$oft, make trillions of dollars out of big data without giving anything back to those people. They also use their power to break small businesses and bully governments. Therefore, I won't contribute to these companies. If they pay me $20 million then they can have my data. Otherwise, I think that it's unfair how they manipulate people, companies and governments.
Some people say that they have nothing to hide so they don't care who has their data but this just makes it more difficult for those people who do care about privacy and multinational companies bullying. Back to the QR code apps and websites.
If the app has been developed specifically for an Australian State or Territory for contact tracing of COVID-19 cases then I will use it. If it's a general purpose app or website then I won't. I'll pen my name and contact details on entry to and exit from a venue. If that facility is not available then I won't enter the venue.
There should be an Australian national QR code app but apparently it's up to the State's and Territory's health departments to do contact tracing so that's not likely to happen. This is a legacy of our federation. If we stand up for our privacy and insist that the information is only used for its intended purpose then maybe our privacy will be respected.
My advice is read the details of the app. If the data is only used for contact tracing the use it. If not, then use the pen and paper and complain to your government. Don't use QR code scanning that takes you to a website. It's likely to be managed by a company that will either bombard your email with advertising or send your information off to Google.
Please, be considerate of other people's privacy if you don't care about your own.
Earlier this week went to a popular Restaurant Chain and to be served needed to scan their QR code or fill in a paper form on the table ( pencil provided, sanitized?) Filled in the form. A month earlier downloaded a QR App but did not like the security issues so deleted it.
Couple of days ago visited Maccas for an Egg and Bacon Muffin and Coffee and their signs, said customers must scan their QR code to be severed, anyway after a discussion I had breakfast there. ( they had no procedure for customers without a Smart Phone/APP)
Anyway with SA Gov. is asking for QR codes to be used in SA from December ( to assist with Covid Tracking) have loaded the App below. Note I am not recommending this App, it seemed the best for my older phone. I think from a bit of research Kaspersky QR Scanner could be the best but you need 4.4 version on your Android Phone or later.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gamma.scan&hl=en_AU&gl=US
-- Edited by PeterInSa on Friday 27th of November 2020 04:34:31 PM
In NSW from 23 Nov.
Electronic record only. For those without a smartphone the business has to supply an electronic alternative to QR code.
Businesses can only use a non electronic method is if there is a power failure & must add those contacts to the electronic record as soon as power is on.
We always leave our phone at home!
Correction.... You need the SA Gov App ( for SA) not the one I mentioned above, see:
www.covid-19.sa.gov.au/business-and-work/covid-safe-check-in
Note: for Android Phones requires version 5 and above, Fruit Phones 1.7.2 and.........
-- Edited by PeterInSa on Thursday 3rd of December 2020 10:53:26 PM
What is so hard every pub or restaurant in NSW is supposed to be using the QR code - they wont let you in unless you register. I have to register my presence when I play golf each week except its a manual system and I know which one I prefer. Once you have entered your details the first time whenever you go somewhere (apparently it's good for 28 days) all you need to do is point your camera at the code and it will log the time & the venue. I didnt have to load any apps my iphone 6 took me straight to the website as soon as I pointed the camera at it. Foxtel were also using a QR code on the test cricket telecast this week so people could enter some competition that they were running.
BB
-- Edited by The Belmont Bear on Sunday 20th of December 2020 11:09:09 PM
The other day went to a local restaurant, and had to sign our name, and a telephone number
We had the option of scanning a code with a smart phone
We have one community mobile phone between the two of us, and I assume it is not a smart phone
It is sad to read that during the very recent tracing exercise in NSW, that some people had been writing their names as Donald Duck, Micky Mouse, etc, and a false phone number
I will assume that there are those, who will never be responsible, in every town of every State. (So not taking a dig at NSW)
I for one, agree to be traced by whatever means, to combat Covid-19
For those who think that their civil rights, override the communities efforts to combat Covid-19
Perhaps, if they moved their tinfoil hat from their heads, and strapped it over their face, no one would be able to see them
This may also help, because if no one can see you, then you may as well stay home
I've worked in the internet protocol since 1994 before retiring. I also used to contribute to the development of international standards, on behalf of Australia and New Zealand, via the ISO Technical Committee for online Geographical Information. There are a few comments that I thought that I might provide on this issue:
Some QR code scanning apps do respect one's privacy. For example, here in the ACT their app, developed for ACT Health, only stores the information for 28 days on the Health Department's database. It is then deleted. I think that this may be the case for the NSW Services app. I can't comment on the SA app. If there is a case or cases of COVID-19 within that period then the database information is supposedly used to contact those people who were at the common venues. Therefore, using a false information can be detrimental to the users and other contacts. More so the contact phone number or email. A false name just makes the user look silly if he or she were to be contacted. I consider these apps to be appropriate as the information is used only for the intended purpose.
Other apps and QR websites, that are general purpose, are not likely to only use the information for contact tracing. The information can be used to send advertising to the users but more importantly, the information is used for big data purposes by companies such as Alphabet (Google's parent company). These companies make trillions of dollars out of that information.
I personally don't agree with this. Five companies, Apple, Alphabet, Facebook, Amazon and Micro$oft, make trillions of dollars out of big data without giving anything back to those people. They also use their power to break small businesses and bully governments. Therefore, I won't contribute to these companies. If they pay me $20 million then they can have my data. Otherwise, I think that it's unfair how they manipulate people, companies and governments.
Some people say that they have nothing to hide so they don't care who has their data but this just makes it more difficult for those people who do care about privacy and multinational companies bullying. Back to the QR code apps and websites.
If the app has been developed specifically for an Australian State or Territory for contact tracing of COVID-19 cases then I will use it. If it's a general purpose app or website then I won't. I'll pen my name and contact details on entry to and exit from a venue. If that facility is not available then I won't enter the venue.
There should be an Australian national QR code app but apparently it's up to the State's and Territory's health departments to do contact tracing so that's not likely to happen. This is a legacy of our federation. If we stand up for our privacy and insist that the information is only used for its intended purpose then maybe our privacy will be respected.
My advice is read the details of the app. If the data is only used for contact tracing the use it. If not, then use the pen and paper and complain to your government. Don't use QR code scanning that takes you to a website. It's likely to be managed by a company that will either bombard your email with advertising or send your information off to Google.
Please, be considerate of other people's privacy if you don't care about your own.
My two cents worth.