Petrol 4WD-non turbo for towing 2.5 t caravan-suggestions
Marks said
02:55 PM Sep 8, 2020
Am concerned with all the problems I am reading about with pollution control on diesel motors. Do not want to go to the size of the Nissan Patrol. Any suggestions
Peter_n_Margaret said
05:27 PM Sep 8, 2020
New or second hand? What budget?
Cheers,
Peter
Marks said
11:31 AM Sep 11, 2020
Probably be secondhand. About 40k.
Thanks for the interest.
Safe travels.
Mark
Whenarewethere said
04:58 PM Sep 11, 2020
A Discovery D4 5.0L V8 276kW 510Nm 3500kg towing.
A Freelander 2.0L Ford Ecoboost 177kW 340Nm but it has a turbo & only 2000kg towing.
You can get either for under $40k
Marks said
11:23 AM Sep 15, 2020
Thanks Guru, Will follow those up
Greg 1 said
12:39 PM Sep 15, 2020
Modern turbocharged engines should not hold any fears for a buyer. They have become very reliable. I have two turbo vehicles, one a petrol and one diesel. Both have proven to be very reliable.
The main issue with modern diesel vehicles is not the turbocharger but the DPF and EGR clogging up. They do not like a lot of short trips which create the carbon build up. There are a number of fixes for this although some are not legal and would fail a yearly check.
Marks said
03:41 PM Nov 3, 2020
Thanks Greg 1. Yes, it is the DPF and EGR that I am concerned about. Is your petrol turbo vehicle used for towing?
Mark
Radar said
08:21 AM Nov 4, 2020
I throw in a Ford Territory 6 cyclinder petrol.
A great motor, very comfortable car to travel in and good examples for under $20 grand.
yobarr said
10:37 AM Nov 4, 2020
Radar wrote:
I throw in a Ford Territory 6 cyclinder petrol.
A great motor, very comfortable car to travel in and good examples for under $20 grand.
Pretty sure that the only Territory that can tow over 2500kg is the AWD diesel? (2700kg) All others,from memory,are limited to 2300kg,so not suitable for 2500kg van. Cheers
hufnpuf said
02:59 PM Nov 4, 2020
yobarr wrote:
All others,from memory,are limited to 2300kg,
I looked at getting a Ford Territory. Although they say in the specs that the towing limit is 2300kg, that's only if you get a "heavy duty" towbar. The actual limit on the one I was looking at (which had a towbar) was only 1600kg (I think, something like that). The towbar was a "standard" towbar. Something to watch out for if you are looking at them.
yobarr said
03:07 PM Nov 4, 2020
hufnpuf wrote:
yobarr wrote:
All others,from memory,are limited to 2300kg,
I looked at getting a Ford Territory. Although they say in the specs that the towing limit is 2300kg, that's only if you get a "heavy duty" towbar. The actual limit on the one I was looking at (which had a towbar) was only 1600kg (I think, something like that). The towbar was a "standard" towbar. Something to watch out for if you are looking at them.
Thanks hufnpuf (Do you have a name or a gender?)...I was aware of that,but I didn't want to further confuse! Truth be known,I believe that the actual car itself is rated to tow 2300kg,but the factory towbar is not! Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 4th of November 2020 03:11:29 PM
hufnpuf said
03:31 PM Nov 4, 2020
yobarr wrote:
the actual car itself is rated to tow 2300kg,but the factory towbar is not! Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 4th of November 2020 03:11:29 PM
Yes, that's right. They put a "lesser" towbar on them. You have to pay for a better towbar to take advantage of the full towing capacity. I found it a bit misleading. The car yard guy was trying to tell me the car in their yard could tow 2300kg, it was only my own research that found out the disparity between the towing capacity in the specs and the "real life" towing capacity on the car.
OP needs something gruntier anyway so it's not something that should affect him.
yobarr said
04:06 PM Nov 4, 2020
hufnpuf wrote:
yobarr wrote:
the actual car itself is rated to tow 2300kg,but the factory towbar is not! Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 4th of November 2020 03:11:29 PM
Yes, that's right. They put a "lesser" towbar on them. You have to pay for a better towbar to take advantage of the full towing capacity. I found it a bit misleading. The car yard guy was trying to tell me the car in their yard could tow 2300kg, it was only my own research that found out the disparity between the towing capacity in the specs and the "real life" towing capacity on the car.
OP needs something gruntier anyway so it's not something that should affect him.
Surely you don't suggest that the "car yard guy" was trying to mislead you? That wouldn't be right,would it? The OP,Ian,certainly needs something bigger,and I am helping him to get sorted,via PM,as I have with others.Cheers
hufnpuf said
05:04 PM Nov 4, 2020
yobarr wrote:
Surely you don't suggest that the "car yard guy" was trying to mislead you?
Not really, he was pretty clueless and indifferent. It was the manufacturer's specs I wasn't too happy about. They should have disclosed that the standard towbar only had a lesser limit. I could have bought that car and only found out later that it didn't have the towing capacity in the specs.
Joda said
05:22 PM Nov 4, 2020
A.W.D. Territory...2700kgs. Diesel terry, 440n.m. v6. T.D.
yobarr said
05:46 PM Nov 4, 2020
Joda wrote:
A.W.D. Territory...2700kgs. Diesel terry, 440n.m. v6. T.D.
Hi John...I think that this what I posted earlier? And the OP specified "Petrol 4wd...no turbo" I believe? Cheers
Joda said
06:53 PM Nov 4, 2020
Sorry about that, missed that part of the post, I have a diesel terry but have the luxury of mostly towing with it, avoid using it as a shopping trolley, just use my ba ute to run around in, 2015 terry of mine does not have a d.p.f. turn key, wait few seconds for glow plugs to do there thing & then hit the starter, very enviromently unfriendly!
Cheers, john
yobarr said
07:16 PM Nov 4, 2020
Joda wrote:
Sorry about that, missed that part of the post, I have a diesel terry but have the luxury of mostly towing with it, avoid using it as a shopping trolley, just use my ba ute to run around in, 2015 terry of mine does not have a d.p.f. turn key, wait few seconds for glow plugs to do there thing & then hit the starter, very enviromently unfriendly! Cheers, john
Hi John...thanks for response! Terry is a great little vehicle...I almost bought one.....but limited towing capacity."Very environmentally unfriendly" you suggest? Perhaps you might like to do a bit of research into the high levels of pollution caused by those ridiculous leaf blowers used by those who are too lazy to use a broom,and seem not to understand that blowing leaves onto the road is only effective until the next gust of wind brings said leaves straight back to from where they came.Too much thinking involved? Cheers
Am concerned with all the problems I am reading about with pollution control on diesel motors. Do not want to go to the size of the Nissan Patrol. Any suggestions
Cheers,
Peter
Thanks for the interest.
Safe travels.
Mark
A Discovery D4 5.0L V8 276kW 510Nm 3500kg towing.
A Freelander 2.0L Ford Ecoboost 177kW 340Nm but it has a turbo & only 2000kg towing.
You can get either for under $40k
Mark
I throw in a Ford Territory 6 cyclinder petrol.
A great motor, very comfortable car to travel in and good examples for under $20 grand.
Pretty sure that the only Territory that can tow over 2500kg is the AWD diesel? (2700kg) All others,from memory,are limited to 2300kg,so not suitable for 2500kg van. Cheers
I looked at getting a Ford Territory. Although they say in the specs that the towing limit is 2300kg, that's only if you get a "heavy duty" towbar. The actual limit on the one I was looking at (which had a towbar) was only 1600kg (I think, something like that). The towbar was a "standard" towbar. Something to watch out for if you are looking at them.
Thanks hufnpuf (Do you have a name or a gender?)...I was aware of that,but I didn't want to further confuse! Truth be known,I believe that the actual car itself is rated to tow 2300kg,but the factory towbar is not! Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Wednesday 4th of November 2020 03:11:29 PM
Yes, that's right. They put a "lesser" towbar on them. You have to pay for a better towbar to take advantage of the full towing capacity. I found it a bit misleading. The car yard guy was trying to tell me the car in their yard could tow 2300kg, it was only my own research that found out the disparity between the towing capacity in the specs and the "real life" towing capacity on the car.
OP needs something gruntier anyway so it's not something that should affect him.
Surely you don't suggest that the "car yard guy" was trying to mislead you? That wouldn't be right,would it? The OP,Ian,certainly needs something bigger,and I am helping him to get sorted,via PM,as I have with others.Cheers
Not really, he was pretty clueless and indifferent. It was the manufacturer's specs I wasn't too happy about. They should have disclosed that the standard towbar only had a lesser limit. I could have bought that car and only found out later that it didn't have the towing capacity in the specs.
Hi John...I think that this what I posted earlier? And the OP specified "Petrol 4wd...no turbo" I believe? Cheers
Hi John...thanks for response! Terry is a great little vehicle...I almost bought one.....but limited towing capacity."Very environmentally unfriendly" you suggest? Perhaps you might like to do a bit of research into the high levels of pollution caused by those ridiculous leaf blowers used by those who are too lazy to use a broom,and seem not to understand that blowing leaves onto the road is only effective until the next gust of wind brings said leaves straight back to from where they came.Too much thinking involved? Cheers