I am disappointed in what I have seen, by the mess and the destruction of the graveled areas at rest stops by those campers who have to make a fire, but don't use the supplied fire pit, or have their own above ground grate. Went to Lake Hart rest area, where we are a guest of the Aboriginal people, and the campers just don't care.
If we don't care for these facilities they will be taken away. On the plus side, the rubbish was not too bad, I did have to pick up for our neighbor, who threw his bottle tops into the cold fire and left his doggy bag on the ground.
It should be at all times "Leave no Trace!"
the rocket said
10:30 AM Aug 19, 2019
iana wrote:
I am disappointed in what I have seen, by the mess and the destruction of the graveled areas at rest stops by those campers who have to make a fire, but don't use the supplied fire pit, or have their own above ground grate. Went to Lake Hart rest area, where we are a guest of the Aboriginal people, and the campers just don't care.
If we don't care for these facilities they will be taken away. On the plus side, the rubbish was not too bad, I did have to pick up for our neighbor, who threw his bottle tops into the cold fire and left his doggy bag on the ground.
It should be at all times "Leave no Trace!"
Leave no trace , totally agree
Tony Bev said
10:39 AM Aug 19, 2019
Agree with Ian, and the rocket
Unfortunately, as I keep saying, we are all tarred with the same brush
Olive Oil said
02:29 PM Aug 19, 2019
Better to light a fire over an existing fire scar.
Better still don't light one at all.
The environment will love you for it & the area will still have some attractive vegetation left to enjoy.
Eaglemax said
04:02 PM Aug 19, 2019
Totally agree.
Like you iana I just get in there and pick up the stuff as annoying as it is. I suppose I resigned a long time ago that it wont ever change- some will leave a mess where ever they go. Our small town here has 210 people and happy hour sees new cans thrown on the side of the road every week. Once every 6 months I fill a garbage bag on my walk. I mumble a bit and snicker but someone has to do it...then its done.
But if I witness the event they get a tongue lashing. If that is ignored then an EPA report online and fine. No sympathy
Tony
PeterInSa said
04:59 PM Aug 19, 2019
Couple of years ago, overnighted in a spot 180Km East of Norsemen WA. Within 15m of our caravan were 5 old campfires ( did'nt look pretty), picked out the cans/caps out of a couple of sets of ashes and into the provided bin, scattered/buried ashes and picked up the stones surrounding the campfires and thru them into the bush some distance away. Probably a short term solution because someone will take great satisfaction in finding the stones again for their campfire.
Whenarewethere said
06:43 PM Aug 19, 2019
We do a very small section of Sydney Harbour every week. It is a spot we like to sit by the water. Fill a bag just about every time. Once I found $5 amongst the rubbish.
One New Year's Day spent hours over 2 days cleaning up broken beer bottles.
People not picking up after their dog number twos & sometimes they say they don't have a bag. We always have a spare doggy bag for these situations!
Chris61 said
06:46 PM Aug 19, 2019
PeterInSa wrote:
Couple of years ago, overnighted in a spot 180Km East of Norsemen WA. Within 15m of our caravan were 5 old campfires ( did'nt look pretty), picked out the cans/caps out of a couple of sets of ashes and into the provided bin, scattered/buried ashes and picked up the stones surrounding the campfires and thru them into the bush some distance away. Probably a short term solution because someone will take great satisfaction in finding the stones again for their campfire.
I hate to see old campfires scattered around camp sites. I also love to get rid of the old stones around these areas and try and rejunvenate some if I can. I love a fire, however it is off the ground and does not damage the grass under the fire. Always bag the ash and dispose of properly, always wetting it down.
Couple of years ago, overnighted in a spot 180Km East of Norsemen WA. Within 15m of our caravan were 5 old campfires ( did'nt look pretty), picked out the cans/caps out of a couple of sets of ashes and into the provided bin, scattered/buried ashes and picked up the stones surrounding the campfires and thru them into the bush some distance away. Probably a short term solution because someone will take great satisfaction in finding the stones again for their campfire.
I hate to see old campfires scattered around camp sites. I also love to get rid of the old stones around these areas and try and rejunvenate some if I can. I love a fire, however it is off the ground and does not damage the grass under the fire. Always bag the ash and dispose of properly, always wetting it down.
Where do you dump your ash ''properly''?
Dougwe said
07:36 PM Aug 19, 2019
Chris61 wrote:
PeterInSa wrote:
Couple of years ago, overnighted in a spot 180Km East of Norsemen WA. Within 15m of our caravan were 5 old campfires ( did'nt look pretty), picked out the cans/caps out of a couple of sets of ashes and into the provided bin, scattered/buried ashes and picked up the stones surrounding the campfires and thru them into the bush some distance away. Probably a short term solution because someone will take great satisfaction in finding the stones again for their campfire.
I hate to see old campfires scattered around camp sites. I also love to get rid of the old stones around these areas and try and rejunvenate some if I can. I love a fire, however it is off the ground and does not damage the grass under the fire. Always bag the ash and dispose of properly, always wetting it down.
Did you enjoy Girgarre Chris and did you visit Greens Lake down the road?
oldbloke said
08:03 PM Aug 19, 2019
Dougwe wrote:
Chris61 wrote:
PeterInSa wrote:
Couple of years ago, overnighted in a spot 180Km East of Norsemen WA. Within 15m of our caravan were 5 old campfires ( did'nt look pretty), picked out the cans/caps out of a couple of sets of ashes and into the provided bin, scattered/buried ashes and picked up the stones surrounding the campfires and thru them into the bush some distance away. Probably a short term solution because someone will take great satisfaction in finding the stones again for their campfire.
I hate to see old campfires scattered around camp sites. I also love to get rid of the old stones around these areas and try and rejunvenate some if I can. I love a fire, however it is off the ground and does not damage the grass under the fire. Always bag the ash and dispose of properly, always wetting it down.
Did you enjoy Girgarre Chris and did you visit Greens Lake down the road?n
Gee, thats fancy. Id like one but too heavy for me. Looking for a compact & cheap sollution at the moment.
Plain Truth said
09:26 AM Aug 20, 2019
When we camp with a group of friends we have a big fire-pot off the ground.
When we are on our own,we have a fire pot made out of a washing machine.
In sandy areas I dig a little hole so the ashes can be easy covered. Then staked near rubbish bin or take the unburnt logs with me . If staked? its away from common area, can be used for next person . Dont leave the ash on ground !!
Branchie said
02:07 AM Aug 21, 2019
I agree with all of you, but maybe we should start to photograph number plates of these inconsiderate individuals, that don't care, I too have seen remains of fires and rubbish at sites, when there is a bin not 25mts away ! Name and Shame is the way to go...
Branchie said
02:09 AM Aug 21, 2019
I agree with all of you, but maybe we should start to photograph number plates of these inconsiderate individuals, that don't care, I too have seen remains of fires and rubbish at sites, when there is a bin not 25mts away ! Name and Shame is the way to go...
Bobdown said
03:35 PM Aug 21, 2019
I always bring my own wood so not to cut down the bush, my old 9 kg gas bottle firepit is off the ground,
can be used for heat or cooking, no mess just a few coals left over which stay in the firepit for next time.
This is the way to go, i have a small firepit. The amount of wood people burn on open style bonfires is disgusting. You can tell which people don't bring or buy wood. They are taking everything they can.
Paull said
08:37 PM Aug 21, 2019
Plain Truth wrote:
When we camp with a group of friends we have a big fire-pot off the ground.
When we are on our own,we have a fire pot made out of a washing machine.
To burn that amount of wood is such a waste, at the rate it is being consumed there will be none left. when people are forced to buy it, then we will see these fires get smaller fast. If it is free abuse it.
Chris61 said
08:47 PM Aug 21, 2019
I received a bit of feedback, so I will answer all in one post.
Where do you dump your ash ''properly''? 90% of the time, it is emptied into a garbage bag after it has been completely extinguished with water, more water is added to bag afterwards as well, absolutely no chance of fire. If I stay more than one night, I will empty firepot each day before relighting just to keep ash to a minimum. I can carry garbage bag in the tray of the Iveco to find an appropriate bin if there is not one at the campsite. A garbage bag of ash fits easily into the barrel, so not messy if I need to carry any distance.
Did you enjoy Girgarre Chris and did you visit Greens Lake down the road? Girgarre is a fantastic campsite, we stayed here only for one night before catching the "Spirit" back to Tassie in early August. I didn't even know about Greens Lake, however I may have drove past it heading for Melbourne
Gee, thats fancy. Id like one but too heavy for me. Looking for a compact & cheap sollution at the moment. The barrel seperates into 3 pieces and sits nicely on top of my spare wheel and in the middle of my gullwing toolbox. The 5th wheeler can also go to 90° without catching on it, so no damage to the nosecone. I am under sixty still, so at the moment I have no trouble lifting it into position
This is the way to go, i have a small firepit. The amount of wood people burn on open style bonfires is disgusting. You can tell which people don't bring or buy wood. They are taking everything they can.
Paull,If you notice when there is just the two of us,we have a fire no bigger than the one in your Avatar.
When we have a group of us,there can be 8 to 12 of us.
So say there are 5 couples,if each couple has a fire the same size as yours,that would burn more wood than 1 large fire that we all sit around.
Think about it,multiply your fire 5 times
-- Edited by Plain Truth on Thursday 22nd of August 2019 10:39:34 AM
Olive Oil said
04:46 PM Aug 23, 2019
Paull wrote:
This is the way to go, i have a small firepit. The amount of wood people burn on open style bonfires is disgusting. You can tell which people don't bring or buy wood. They are taking everything they can.
Totally agree.
This amount of wood would heat our lounge/dining area for 2 or 3 weeks.
Look at that pile of ash behind the wood pile.
We've had 6 people sitting in a semicircle around our Ozpig & everyone was quite warm enough. It uses very little timber. We quite often have to move back further because its too hot.
Plain Truth said
06:43 PM Aug 23, 2019
Olive Oil wrote:
Better to light a fire over an existing fire scar.
Better still don't light one at all.
The environment will love you for it & the area will still have some attractive vegetation left to enjoy.
Don't you remember posting on this forum,that you had a fire every night when you stayed on Imlay Rd. near the Newtons Crossing turnoff.
Then you ask someone on this forum what did they do with their ashes,what did you do with yours.
-- Edited by Plain Truth on Friday 23rd of August 2019 06:44:06 PM
Plain Truth said
06:49 PM Aug 23, 2019
This what the ashes are from.
-- Edited by Plain Truth on Friday 23rd of August 2019 06:50:16 PM
When we leave our campsite we clean up and take everything away,we leave it better than we found it.Sometimes we even have a bit of wood left over for the next camper.
Olive Oil said
07:50 PM Aug 23, 2019
Plain Truth wrote:
Olive Oil wrote:
Better to light a fire over an existing fire scar.
Better still don't light one at all.
The environment will love you for it & the area will still have some attractive vegetation left to enjoy.
Don't you remember posting on this forum,that you had a fire every night when you stayed on Imlay Rd. near the Newtons Crossing turnoff.
Then you ask someone on this forum what did they do with their ashes,what did you do with yours.
-- Edited by Plain Truth on Friday 23rd of August 2019 06:44:06 PM
Yes we stayed a few nights & had a small fire not an inferno like you obviously enjoy.
It was a newly bulldozed area large enough for one caravan.
There was wood laying around everywhere from the knocked down forest, we left almost all of it for people that followed us.
We left our ash in the newly installed metal fireplace provided.
Lovely spot by the way.
Plain Truth said
08:14 PM Aug 23, 2019
Olive Oil wrote:
Plain Truth wrote:
Olive Oil wrote:
Better to light a fire over an existing fire scar.
Better still don't light one at all.
The environment will love you for it & the area will still have some attractive vegetation left to enjoy.
Don't you remember posting on this forum,that you had a fire every night when you stayed on Imlay Rd. near the Newtons Crossing turnoff.
Then you ask someone on this forum what did they do with their ashes,what did you do with yours.
-- Edited by Plain Truth on Friday 23rd of August 2019 06:44:06 PM
Yes we stayed a few nights & had a small fire not an inferno like you obviously enjoy.
It was a newly bulldozed area large enough for one caravan.
There was wood laying around everywhere from the knocked down forest, we left almost all of it for people that followed us.
We left our ash in the newly installed metal fireplace provided.
Lovely spot by the way.
Know the area well,If you look when there is just the 2 of us we have a firepot. when we go in a group we have a bigger fire, all wood lying on the ground ,just like you.
I am disappointed in what I have seen, by the mess and the destruction of the graveled areas at rest stops by those campers who have to make a fire, but don't use the supplied fire pit, or have their own above ground grate. Went to Lake Hart rest area, where we are a guest of the Aboriginal people, and the campers just don't care.
If we don't care for these facilities they will be taken away. On the plus side, the rubbish was not too bad, I did have to pick up for our neighbor, who threw his bottle tops into the cold fire and left his doggy bag on the ground.
It should be at all times "Leave no Trace!"
Leave no trace , totally agree
Unfortunately, as I keep saying, we are all tarred with the same brush
Better still don't light one at all.
The environment will love you for it & the area will still have some attractive vegetation left to enjoy.
Like you iana I just get in there and pick up the stuff as annoying as it is. I suppose I resigned a long time ago that it wont ever change- some will leave a mess where ever they go. Our small town here has 210 people and happy hour sees new cans thrown on the side of the road every week. Once every 6 months I fill a garbage bag on my walk. I mumble a bit and snicker but someone has to do it...then its done.
But if I witness the event they get a tongue lashing. If that is ignored then an EPA report online and fine. No sympathy
Tony
We do a very small section of Sydney Harbour every week. It is a spot we like to sit by the water. Fill a bag just about every time. Once I found $5 amongst the rubbish.
One New Year's Day spent hours over 2 days cleaning up broken beer bottles.
People not picking up after their dog number twos & sometimes they say they don't have a bag. We always have a spare doggy bag for these situations!
I hate to see old campfires scattered around camp sites. I also love to get rid of the old stones around these areas and try and rejunvenate some if I can. I love a fire, however it is off the ground and does not damage the grass under the fire. Always bag the ash and dispose of properly, always wetting it down.
Where do you dump your ash ''properly''?
Did you enjoy Girgarre Chris and did you visit Greens Lake down the road?
Gee, thats fancy. Id like one but too heavy for me. Looking for a compact & cheap sollution at the moment.
When we camp with a group of friends we have a big fire-pot off the ground.
When we are on our own,we have a fire pot made out of a washing machine.
I always bring my own wood so not to cut down the bush, my old 9 kg gas bottle firepit is off the ground,
can be used for heat or cooking, no mess just a few coals left over which stay in the firepit for next time.
This is the way to go, i have a small firepit. The amount of wood people burn on open style bonfires is disgusting. You can tell which people don't bring or buy wood. They are taking everything they can.
To burn that amount of wood is such a waste, at the rate it is being consumed there will be none left. when people are forced to buy it, then we will see these fires get smaller fast. If it is free abuse it.
I received a bit of feedback, so I will answer all in one post.
Where do you dump your ash ''properly''?
90% of the time, it is emptied into a garbage bag after it has been completely extinguished with water, more water is added to bag afterwards as well, absolutely no chance of fire. If I stay more than one night, I will empty firepot each day before relighting just to keep ash to a minimum. I can carry garbage bag in the tray of the Iveco to find an appropriate bin if there is not one at the campsite. A garbage bag of ash fits easily into the barrel, so not messy if I need to carry any distance.
Did you enjoy Girgarre Chris and did you visit Greens Lake down the road?
Girgarre is a fantastic campsite, we stayed here only for one night before catching the "Spirit" back to Tassie in early August. I didn't even know about Greens Lake, however I may have drove past it heading for Melbourne
Gee, thats fancy. Id like one but too heavy for me. Looking for a compact & cheap sollution at the moment.
The barrel seperates into 3 pieces and sits nicely on top of my spare wheel and in the middle of my gullwing toolbox. The 5th wheeler can also go to 90° without catching on it, so no damage to the nosecone. I am under sixty still, so at the moment I have no trouble lifting it into position
Paull,If you notice when there is just the two of us,we have a fire no bigger than the one in your Avatar.
When we have a group of us,there can be 8 to 12 of us.
So say there are 5 couples,if each couple has a fire the same size as yours,that would burn more wood than 1 large fire that we all sit around.
Think about it,multiply your fire 5 times
-- Edited by Plain Truth on Thursday 22nd of August 2019 10:39:34 AM
Totally agree.
This amount of wood would heat our lounge/dining area for 2 or 3 weeks.
Look at that pile of ash behind the wood pile.
We've had 6 people sitting in a semicircle around our Ozpig & everyone was quite warm enough. It uses very little timber. We quite often have to move back further because its too hot.
Don't you remember posting on this forum,that you had a fire every night when you stayed on Imlay Rd. near the Newtons Crossing turnoff.
Then you ask someone on this forum what did they do with their ashes,what did you do with yours.
-- Edited by Plain Truth on Friday 23rd of August 2019 06:44:06 PM
This what the ashes are from.
-- Edited by Plain Truth on Friday 23rd of August 2019 06:50:16 PM
When we leave our campsite we clean up and take everything away,we leave it better than we found it.Sometimes we even have a bit of wood left over for the next camper.
Yes we stayed a few nights & had a small fire not an inferno like you obviously enjoy.
It was a newly bulldozed area large enough for one caravan.
There was wood laying around everywhere from the knocked down forest, we left almost all of it for people that followed us.
We left our ash in the newly installed metal fireplace provided.
Lovely spot by the way.
Know the area well,If you look when there is just the 2 of us we have a firepot. when we go in a group we have a bigger fire, all wood lying on the ground ,just like you.
So what & who cares. Plain Truth you're a ''silly old sausage''.
Here's a shot of our ''blaze'' at Imlay Ck. We brought the fence palings with us. We light a fire at 5pm & go to bed at 8pm.
Cheers Judy
-- Edited by Olive Oil on Saturday 24th of August 2019 05:21:13 AM
Olive,that is a nice spot there,hope you had some oysters left to go with your wine.
Cheers